Speeding fine as a tourist. How much?

[Sgtmajormummy]

Hello, I’m posting as I can’t find any clear answers on Google.

Last April I came to the UK for a holiday using a hire car. I was the named driver and DH the second. However DH did all the driving.
I’ve now received a speeding fine for doing 42 in a 30 zone (fair enough, no contestation) and a page to fill in if I was not the driver at the time.
A quick Google tells me that UK citizens would receive 4-6 points and a fine of 100% of their declared weekly income but NO information about tourists.
As we are resident abroad, both have non-UK licences and DH is by far the higher earner I’ve decided to take the bullet for him. On my previously unsullied licence of 25 years!!

Can anyone tell me what I can expect in the way of fines? Are they likely to just forget about it as too much paperwork or go as far as checking my foreign income tax declarations??
I’d even consider a driver’s safety course- any excuse for a mini-break back in the UK!
Thanks in advance.

I’ve decided to take the bullet for him

In the uk thats called purgery OP

news.sky.com/story/fiona-onasanya-mp-jailed-for-speeding-fine-lies-to-have-sentence-reviewed-11623742

Perjury

You can't lie for your husband. If it was him driving then the letter they've sent you is a legal document that you sign confirming who the driver was at the time. If you're unsure then there's often either a photo attached or a code you can use to go online and view the photo evidence.

I've seen a few news reports where people have got in trouble for lying.

OK, taken that advice on board.

Has anybody got information regarding my main question of speeding fines FOR TOURISTS?

Also insurance fronting is illegal.... seems op doesn’t care so no point in giving advice.

As the second driver DH was insured to drive the car.
RTFT

No ones going to help you commit a criminal offence OP ffs

I ‘m not asking for help to commit an offense, dammit!
My question still stands.
Let’s make it clear.
I intend to declare that DH was the driver at the time of the speeding offence.
Now [sigh]
Can anybody give me information about speeding fines for tourists in the Uk??

And as he did all the driving he should have been the main driver not a second driver. You told the insurance company you would be doing most of the driving and this in fact was not true. It’s called insurance fronting and this could invalidate your insurance.

I agree in normal car insurance circumstances you would be right, Georgie but this was a hire car.where they are Known as “Additional Driver” and are given the same rights as the contract holder.

Sgtmajormummy that's not what you said in the OP 'I’ve decided to take the bullet for him' so don't get pissy with me.
I'm glad you've seen sense.

Depending on how far over the limit, you may get offered a speed awareness course - which might not be suitable if you don't live in the country. Otherwise, if you weren't going too fast - 3 points and a £100 fine.
If you were doing excessively over the limit they may decide to prosecute. Anything over 100mph is a prosecution now.

My DF is an American citizen and got a UK speeding ticket about 2 years ago.

No points. The owner and insurer of the car (car hire company) deducted the fee from the credit card detailed used to book the car. I believe it was around £60 which included a small admin fee from the hire company for their work.

It doesn't matter that you are a tourist. The fine will be £100-1000 and 3 points on your licnece ( the fine depends on how much you exceeded the legal limit). You will also have to pay an admin fee to the hire company. The points can't be added to a non EU licence

Just to be clear. The fact that you are a tourist holds no water. You still get same fine as if you were UK resident.

This may be news to some of you, but since 24th April 2017 speeding fines have been income related.
Having seen the Band A/B/C System This fine (42 in a 30mph zone, RTFT) would be 4-6 points and 100% of declared weekly income.

But we are not British residents and AFAIK the British police don’t have the power to access foreign income tax information. That is my question.

As I said above a Speed Awareness course (£80 and an excuse to come to GB) would be a welcome option!

Sooverthemill you confirm my knowledge that £1,000 is the maximum cap for income related fines.

FWIW I think 42% is the very upper limit of when they allow a SAW.

I got a SAW for that exact offence - 42 in a 30 - about 5 years ago, though I think it does vary by area as the county level police have some discretion.

Really rude.

The posters who took time to answer the question you didn’t ask may have saved you from going to jail.

Thanks for coming here as a tourist and caring so little (dammit) for pedestrians here (because 30mph limit is usually due to pedestrians in a residential area) that your main character verb is how you and your husband can limit the penalty that incurred through your DH’s criminal (yes, criminal ) action.

Er concern, not character verb.

TheRedBarrows Exactly what I wanted to say!

Thanks for coming here as a tourist and caring so little (dammit) for pedestrians here (because 30mph limit is usually due to pedestrians in a residential area) that your main character verb is how you and your husband can limit the penalty that incurred through your DH’s criminal (yes, criminal ) action.

That pretty much sums it up.

The halos on this thread are blinding.
😇😇😇😇😇😇😇

You will just pay a fine via the car hire company. Overseas residents do not get any points off license.

The Uk is one of few countries who fine the driver. In most of Europe for example it is the car that is insured, not the driver of the car. Therefore only the car owner will pay the fine (how much depends on speed), as they could have 100 different people driving the car so no points system.

It works the same in the uk with car hire, the owner aka car hire company is charged. ie Europecar is charged £30. Europecar then pass on that fee to whoever rented that car during that duration, and add an admin fee. So you pay £60 for example (£30 fine+£30 admin)

Juno I’m playing “spot the Brexit voter” here...
I am a British citizen, by the way. Just not a resident any more. And the Nanny State is one of the reasons why I left for good.

I realise I may have caused offense by using RTFT. It used to mean Read the Full Thread, as in “I haven’t RTFT..” But now I see MNHQ has changed the definition of the F word.
Apologies for any offense unintentionally given.
However I think my use of “dammit” was softer than wtf in the comment above.