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glitterbiscuits · 27/01/2018 15:03

I posted this with no success in Short Haul

We are thinking of Moscow and St Petersburg in October with our older teenagers. All vegetarian.

Anybody have any top tips please?

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WickedGoodDoge · 01/02/2018 19:32

We found great food in both cities! There are so many restaurants and cafes and coffee shops/patisseries that we were spoilt for choice.

I also really liked the cucumber flavoured Sprite that you can buy at any corner shop. Grin

Tiddlywinks63 · 01/02/2018 19:34

We went to Leningrad, as it was then, in January 1978 - minus 35° and certainly 'an experience' (you had to take your own bath plug!)
Good luck op!

Allthebestnamesareused · 01/02/2018 19:40

We just went to St Petersburg at the beginning of November. It was lovely and the food was great (but we are not veggies).

We saw The Nutcracker at the Mikhailovsky Theatre and is was only £110 for all for seats in a box. You can book it online direct.

The visa application is a bit of a pain. You need to list everywhere you have travelled in the last 10 years - which entailed checking through Facebook pictures and passport stamps! You have to go to the Russian Visa Office in person too but that was quite quick when we were there (half an hour). It seemed a pain at the time but was well worth it.

We stayed at The Pushka Inn which is walking distance of everywhere and 2 minutes from the Hermitage/Winter Palace and 5 minutes from The Church of the Spilled Blood.

Whisperquietly · 01/02/2018 20:15

I lived in Russia for a year. St Petersburg feels relatively Western, Moscow a lot less so.

Much more to see and do in St Petersburg (off the top of my head: Winter Palace, ballet at Mariinsky, Yusupov Palace - where Rasputin was murdered, beautiful churches, St Peter and Paul’s Cathedral where the last Tzar and family are buried). Also boat trips to other former royal palaces. Hotels we stayed at (Radisson and Angleterre Hotel) were fine but a bit more run down than Western equivalent.

The Sapsan train is only about 4/5 hours between the 2 and you can get a sleeper train if you wish. The staff didn’t speak any English at the station or on the train.

The centre of Moscow is full of flashy cars (Bentleys) and flashy people with bodyguards. It can feel quite intimidating but I always felt safe walking around even at night.

Moscow highlights were the Armoury (inside the Kremlin) although book in advance and get a guided tour as limited information in English, Red Square and Lenin, Bolshoi ballet, Tretyakov Gallery, Cathedral of Christ the Saviour, boat tour along the Moskva river. Also trip to Tolstoy’s house at Yasnaya Polyana.

We found that in general Russians dont like foreigners and will deliberately make your life harder/cheat you.

Try to get basics of Cyrillic alphabet before you go or you’ll be wandering round in circles, especially on the Metro.

It’s definitely an experience!

Whisperquietly · 01/02/2018 20:19

Whatever you do, do not hire a car.

JellyTeapot · 01/02/2018 20:22

I haven't been back in almost ten years so much of my info is outdated but I lived in Moscow for almost five years and never grew tired of it. There's lots to see and do in both St P and Moscow - so many top notch art galleries and museums, beautiful churches and monasteries, cheap opera and ballet, huge parks with various attractions, the simply stunning metro stations and even more if you venture further out of the city e.g. Tsarskoe Selo near St P and Sergiev Posad near Moscow. I'm a veggie and managed just fine - top tip is to find Georgian restaurants which have a good range of meat free dishes. It can be expensive if you go to restaurants aimed at tourists and drink imported wine but you'll get a better deal and experience if you venture off the beaten track. I found my Lonely Planet guide invaluable for finding quirky restaurants and attractions. Public transport is cheap and fairly accessible even if you don't speak Russian and I believe a lot of the signs and announcements are in English now. Russians have a reputation for being cold and unfriendly but if you scratch a little below the surface they are so warm, friendly and generous. With regards to visas, I'd recommend using an agency, so much less hassle!

gabsdot · 01/02/2018 22:35

My children are adopted from Russia so we have been there 5 times in all and have spent a lot of time in Moscow.
It's a very interesting city. There are lots of lovely things to see and do. I bought a good guide book and we did our own thing but having a guide would be great.

It's very expensive. The traffic is mental. Don't even think about driving yourself. The people are unfriendly and unhelpful in general. The food is just ok and very meaty.

I've heard saint Petersburg is much nicer.

LoniceraJaponica · 01/02/2018 22:47

Tiddlywinks63 We went to Leningrad in May 1976. We were chaperoned all over the place. It was obvious we were Westerners as most of us were wearing jeans. We were a source of interest to a lot of local people, and while they didn't know any English they knew how to say "chewing gum". A lot of people came up to us just to say "chewing gum"

We took a hydrofoil down the river Neva to Petrodvorets one afternoon - definitely worth a visit. The best thing we ate while we were there was the ice cream. It was unexpectedly nice.

BubblesBuddy · 02/02/2018 01:21

I have been to St Petersburg with teens. They weren’t vegetarian though. This was in 2007 and we got our own Visas, I booked the flights and booked the hotel. I organised all the sightseeing and it was bloody hard work but absolutely wonderful at the same time. We never felt threatened but some older people won’t be helpful but young people are. Russians have a thing about taking a big deposit for Head sets in museums. They seem to think you will steal them! Shopping isn’t really worthwhile but Gum Department Store in Red Square is a gem and has good coffee! Get a clear idea of what you want to see before you go and take warm clothes. If you do a canal trip in St P it will be cold!

All the places to visit in St P have been mentioned but a real highlight is the Shuvalov Palace with the Faberge Museum which opened about 2 years ago. Just brilliant. The tombs of the Tzars are also worth a visit as is the whole Fortress of Peter and Paul.

Fast forward 7 years and DH and I went to Moscow and then to St Petersburg by high speed train. This time we went with Cox and Kings. We didn’t like the guide in a Moscow and the time was wasted by seeing things we were not interested in and not enough time to see what we did want to see. It had the advantage of staying at the Ritz Carlton with an amazing view of The Kremlin from the roof terrace. The whiz around the Kremlin museums was too short and we had to rush into the “Crown Jewels” ourselves, in the treasury, because the guide excluded it. Total madness. He also was surly when people didn’t want his show tickets at £75 pp. He did however do a great tour of the underground and it’s a must see. Anyone who thinks Moscow isn’t worth visiting is very wrong. Sergiev Possad was outstanding.

Finding restaurants was easy and there are Italian ones which can do vegetarian meals. As pp has said, The Lonely Planet guide will help greatly with restaurant choices and there are now some excellent ones in St P. Vietnamese, Italian and definitely not all Russian! If you can get tickets to the Bolshoi, get them. In St Petersburg go to the Marinsky if you can. These are two great ballet companies of the world.

St P had changed a lot. It’s much cleaner then before. Much more welcoming. There were lots of new restaurants and better hotels are opening all the time. Try and stay near Nevsky Prospect. You can walk to quite a few places but a tour will take you to the palaces outside St P. The fountains at the Peterhof may not be flowing in October, but they are truly amazing. Our guide was late and we didn’t get enough time there.

Personally I would pay for a Visa service as we did the second time. I would go to a decent hotel (we did) and I would go with a good quality tour company. Russian guides are more about doing what they want. The guide in Moscow announced we wouldn’t like the Tretyakov Gallery so we didn’t go. I was livid. Cox and Kings didn’t care either so don’t go with them. Our St P guide didn’t even stay with us until the end of the tour to Tsarko Selo. She was dropped off at home on the way back. They seem to do as little as possible.

However you could do a lot of exploring yourself but going to Tsarko Selo is not so easy if you are not on a tour. The Hermitage is easy and so is the Church of the Spilled Blood and the Faberge Museum. In 2007 the taxis were dire. I used the hotels cars. That would be very expensive now and taxis have improved. Both these cities are great and you are visiting somewhere that does feel different. The Russians can be welcoming but the old babushkas still exist! Russians have had it tough. You only have to hear about the siege of St P (Leningrad) to know that and they will tell you where the German troops got to when you go by the area. It is very close to the city. Younger people in restaurants tend to speak English now and many more people in museums.

WickedGoodDoge · 02/02/2018 12:18

Going to Tsarko Selo is not so easy if you are not on a tour.

Oh, it is easy! You need to book your tickets in advance online because the queues are very very long at Catherine’s Palace and only a relatively small number are available each day for individual visitors.

You can take a train to Tsarko Selo then a marshrutka (sort of like a mini bus/shared taxi) to the Palace. Or, what we did was to take the metro to Moskovskaya then a marshrutka to the Palace. The square at the metro stop has the most gigantic statue of Lenin! There are loads of marshrutka at the square and the ones for Catherine’s Palace are clearly marked. The price is on a board inside the bus and you place the money on the dashboard- it’s all clear when you do it! You’ll go past Vistory Square and on the way back it’s worth hopping off the bus and wandering through (then it’s not a long walk at all to the metro stop).

If you ask the driver to tell you when you are at the Palace, though it’s fairly obvious! On the way back, there are lots of bus stops and you can flag down a marshrutka even if you aren’t at the right stop for it. Or you can wander into town after the Palace and take the train back, or pick up a marshrutka there.

You can hire audio guides at the Palace or bring guide books etc. There’s next to no signage, but we thought it was so much better doing it on our own than being dragged around in a group. Having said that, I avoid tours for anything wherever I can! Grin

WickedGoodDoge · 02/02/2018 12:24

I’m not sure what the benefits are of using an agency for your visas? You need to have your fingerprints taken now so you need to do it in person anyway. We found the visa service company to be extremely helpful. They will go through your application in full before sending you away and won’t accept it if there are any mistakes. One of our hotel invitations had a mistake which was highlighted to us. We were able to go away, sort it with the hotel and then go back and print off the new invitation at the visa centre. Processing took about a week.

If you could just send everything to an agency and have them deal with the visa centre, then I could see the benefit in using one, but you have to do it in person anyway, so surely all the agency is doing is casting an eye over it, which the centre will do anyway?

WickedGoodDoge · 02/02/2018 12:33

And OMG, the cakes! And hot chocolate made from melted chocolate! These cakes are from here: www.facebook.com/pg/bizespb/photos/?ref=page_internal

But there are loads of patisseries and cafes all around Moscow and St Petersburg. Plus bakeries that sell Russian pies and savoury pastries (lots of vegetarian choice).

I loved Russia. I can’t wait to go back. Grin

Anyone been to Russia?
BubblesBuddy · 02/02/2018 15:24

What is the difference between a visa agency and a visa service company? I do get the bit about finger prints. Iran is the same.

The description of getting to Tsarko Selo is making me laugh. Booking in advance, flagging down buses etc. If you are first time in Russia that’s a total faff. It’s way easier to get a tour in October. I would diy if I went back but for a first timer it’s not that easy!

WickedGoodDoge · 02/02/2018 15:33

I was a first timer and it was a piece of cake Grin

Russian visa processing is outsourced to VFS, the visa service company. You need to visit them, regardless of whether you pass your info to an agency for what? This is where I don’t understand how a middle man is useful? Possibly before you needed fingerprints and a personal visit to VFS, but how does using an agency add any value now? VFS will tell you if your application is completed correctly.

WickedGoodDoge · 02/02/2018 17:40

Some other things I posted from the other thread...

Bunker 42 in Moscow is great fun for teens. It’s a real Cold War Bunker and when the guide asks for a volunteer, shove one of your teens forward. It means they will get to flick the real switch to launch a nuclear missile to the US. DS did not hesitate when given the command. Grin

In St Petersburg, the Military Museum has all sorts of tanks and the largest motherfucker missile from 1956 that you will ever see.

The Museum of the Seige is small but well worth a visit. Very very sweet staff who were very concerned that we might not understand what we were seeing and pointed out all the signs in English.

Also loved the Yusopov Palace and the Smolny Catherdral which is so so pretty, but a bit out from the centre. DS and I tried to find the Gary Powers exchange letter from Kennedy but despite having an email saying which annex it was in, there was no sign of it and the staff didn’t seem to know anything about it - our only failed quest of the trip!

DS and I are going to do the Trans-Mongolian express in 2020,starting in Moscow, stopping off in various Russian cities, plus Siberia, Ulaanbataar and then ending in Beijing. I can’t wait!

Anyone been to Russia?
WickedGoodDoge · 02/02/2018 17:44

Oh, and the Space Museum out by VDHKh. You can go see the stuffed Russian hero space dogs! Grin

Hoolahoophop · 02/02/2018 18:18

We went to St.P for a long weekend a few years ago. Absolutely loved it, we went in winter and all the frozen canals and river were magical. One of my favourite holidays. We had great food and everyone we spoke to were polite if not warm. U found even that interesting. But then when we went people were just not out because of the cold, so I wouldn't expect a medditeraian welcome.

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