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New Zealand - flight company recommendations, stopovers and trip planning

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rookiemere · 30/12/2017 13:52

Hi,
So its a bit early but we're thinking of going to NZ for Easter 19 as DS gets slightly longer for his Easter break then so we could go for roughly 2.5 weeks ( including travel).

I have some relatives and friends in Auckland that we want to visit, but other than that are open to suggestions. I've been before a long time ago, but it will be DH and DS's first visit - DS will be 13 by then.

I'd welcome thoughts on who best to book flights with - we're in Scotland if that makes any difference - and where to stop over.

Thanks.

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zuzzep · 01/01/2018 18:15

You can only work with the time you have.
I would go Cathay all the way and I would do stop overs both way in Hong Kong. Even if it eats into your holiday time.

Cathay are a fantastic airline in my view. Air NZ are great but so expensive.

I took two young children for a whistle stop tour and only had a short period of time.
They loved it - it was exhausting for me but t was important to do. I still loved it though.

Maybe concentrate on the north island - but only is you are sure you will come back.

NZ is a wonderful place.

zuzzep · 01/01/2018 18:17

And as people say avoid LA

Sellfirdges itinerary is really good - I say as a Kiwi.

rookiemere · 01/01/2018 18:18

Hi zuzzep - I'm pretty sure we will go back at some point in our lives, perhaps when we are retired and have more time to do a leisurely trip, and I'll definitely look at Cathay when the flights are released.

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zuzzep · 01/01/2018 20:08

Sounds really exciting Smile

Mytimenow · 04/01/2018 19:57

We are just planning to do NZ in July 2019 for my 50th with Dh and 3 DS 21,16 and 13. Hoping to do Aukland to Wellington on a 9 day driving tour then stay in Wellie for 4/5 days as we have friends that emigrated there a few years ago. Eldest ds stayed with them last summer to watch the Lions rugby tour before he started University. We know it's the winter but 3 youngest are still in school.
Any tips on travel companies to use, DS flew etihad and was fine and very reasonable.

specialsubject · 04/01/2018 20:31

The usual time tight itinerary is

  • into Auckland. 2 days to clear jetlag. Rangitoto, mt eden, tiritiri matangi
  • four hours south to Rotorua: volcanic sights there and Taupo.
  • fly to south island, queenstown if you can. Spend rest of time travelling from there up the west coast, across Arthur's pass to Christchurch and leave from there.
  • don't bank on weather. If it is a nice day, get out there.

If you want to see Milford sound, fly from Queenstown.

Do not underestimate nz roads - work on max average of 60kph. Google maps times are often way too quick for safety. Crash rate twice of the UK, standards aren't good - don't make it worse by being a tired or rushed tourist who do contribute quite a lot to the carnage.

rookiemere · 04/01/2018 22:26

Oh nice itinerary - looks doable.

Am now wondering if we should go in jul/aug rather than Easter. Means we could spend a bit longer , but unsure about flying half way across the world to bad weather.

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GinSolvesEverything · 05/01/2018 01:47

Weather in July / august will not be great, unless you are up for skiing. It would be better to come in march / April for sure.

Special's itinerary looks good. If you can squeeze in a couple of days to go north from Auckland to the bay of islands you should try to. Loads of history up there at Waitangi, and some great boat trips to see dolphins etc.

Jungfraujoch · 05/01/2018 09:07

Hello, we are going for three weeks this Easter 2018 and just finalising itinerary!

So flying to Sydney for 3 nights via Dubai with Emirates. Doing the Sydney Bridge climb while there. Then on to Queenstown NZ for 4 nights (fly/cruise/Fly Milford Sound, jet boat etc). Then up to Franz Josef glacier (heli-hike), Punakkaki, across to Kaikoura for whale watching via Hanmer Springs, Christchurch to stay with friends for 2 nights. Fly to Rotorua (Maori stuff, glow worm caves etc) then drive to Auckland and do Waiheke Island for zipwires! Then fly home from Auckland!

Can’t wait!!

We’ve used an independent Travel Counsellor who has been great.

Qs333 · 05/01/2018 09:17

I fly to NZ several times a year from Europe. Preferably I fly Qantas due to their safety record. Also for most of the trip you fly in an Airbus A380, which is much more comfortable than the 747 for that length of flight. Second choice would be Singapore airlines. Changi airport is fantastic, and you can take showers etc. which can be hard to find in other airports.

LittleKiwi · 05/01/2018 09:26

Emirates are great. I haven’t flown thst route. Your itinerary sounds fantastic - all the places on your list are great, although it is a bit whistlestop.

Enjoy! Just be careful on the roads - the road death toll has been even higher than usual this past year and tourist season is notorious for terrible crashes... And if you’re camping/ camper vanning, PLEASE be responsible and leave no trace. Freedom campers are increasingly unpopular here for all sorts of vile reasons.

specialsubject · 05/01/2018 09:46

Go for easter, more daylight hours and probably less snow. Nz won't go away, plan to go back.

jungfraujoch Punakaiki - has a half hour paved walk for the pancake rocks which are only spectacular at high tide. If you are passing, fine, but otherwise don't worry. And of course your helihike is weather dependent and it rains 2 days in 3 at the glaciers. Get hold of a rough guide and look into alternatives. There are hundreds of scenic walks in nz , doc.govt.nz is your friend.

LostInTheColonies · 05/01/2018 10:06

If you're driving, the quake mentioned by jelly means that the road from Picton (top of the S Island) to Kaikoura and on to Christchurch is only open in the daytime at the moment - big diversion inland if it's closed, and delays if it is open. Just bear in mind if you're wanting to get to Kaikoura at a certain time to watch whales. NZTA (transport agency) have a great website and app with great info about road closures www.journeys.nzta.govt.nz/traffic/. That sounds a bit doom & gloom, but very useful! (I live here).

specialsubject's itinerary looks pretty good, and will leave you heaps to do on your next trip!

Jungfraujoch · 05/01/2018 15:48

Thanks for the traffic heads up. Will definitely check that site out so we allow plenty of time!! Any trips that are weather dependent we’ve allowed a couple or more days in most so we can bump to the following day hopefully if needed.

specialsubject · 05/01/2018 17:01

Theres also some good stuff on newzealand.com about driving there and what to expect. Although they dont mention to expect crazy overtaking, tailgating and rolled cars. As I said, dont contribute by being a tired tourist.

There's under 5 million kiwis in a space the size of the UK but they kill each other on the road at a terrifying rate. At least the driving age has gone up from 15.

Outside the car they are such a friendly lot, too!!

On a brighter note - one lane bridges,love them. Especially the one with the train coming down the middle. I read that they are building a new bridge next to it for the cars. Another nz experience gone.

LostInTheColonies · 05/01/2018 21:52

Jung there is a back road in to Kaikoura from the Hanmer direction that is not affected (well, a bit stuffed but it is open). It's the bits between Kaikoura and Picton, and Kaikoura and Christchurch, that are the real problem.

TBH, one of the main causes of crazy overtaking is tourists driving really slowly on the bendy bits of road (of which there are many Xmas Smile ) where it is not possible for other drivers to pass, then speeding up on the straight bits making it very difficult to overtake there as well. Much frustration for other road users. So if you have even one car banked up behind you, please pull over and let it pass!

Special - that bridge is still there at the moment - we went over it last weekend somewhere between Westport and Greymouth. Sadly you're right about the new 'improvement' though Sad

specialsubject · 05/01/2018 22:33

Ah yes, always let tailgaters go. Applies anywhere.

Let them crash well ahead of you. A lot of the kiwi problem is the assumption that nothing will be coming on that blind bend. With low traffic levels they are usually right. Until the day they are wrong.

Travellinghopefully2018 · 08/04/2018 12:37

Hi, we are just back from our trip so thought I would come back and update (to be helpful obviously not to indulge myself and avoid the holiday washing pile at all!!)

We flew emirates and as previous posters have said we found them exceptional. Kids (7 and 4) coped well with flights. Got our campervan after a couple of days readjusting in Christchurch. Would highly recommend not picking up the van immediately - there was a lot of information to take in about how to empty things, driving tips, and driving a much longer vehicle took a bit to get used to as well. I was glad we had recovered from the worst of the jet lag! Wilderness were really thorough and spent an hour with us taking us through it all, checking if we had questions etc. The van itself was really lovely.

Christchurch is well worth a stop, obviously it has changed significantly since the big quakes and it is very sobering and sad to see the extent of the impact on the city, and to see the empty chairs memorial to all the lives lost. However, some amazing art and pop up projects have sprung up in the city and we had a brilliant time exploring them. In Cathedral Square someone has hacked an old parking meter and turned it into an ideas machine. It is free, and every press of the button gives you an idea ticket - something free to do or see in the city. The kids loved this and we spent the rest of our day tracking down activities such as a giant street computer game with a control pad you jump on, and a Lego workshop. Top activity was the fabulous Margaret Mary playground. It’s big and varied and we could have spent all day there itself! In general NZ playgrounds were brilliant, everywhere we stopped we found something fun which helped break up the drives.

We did lake tekapo - queenstown - milford sound - wanaka - Christchurch. It was all amazing and beautiful. We stayed at a mixture of holiday parks and did some dept of conservation camp spots in the Milford valley. We were impressed with these - long drop toilets well cleaned and cooking stations etc but apparently they are not always that well looked after. The holiday parks were expensive (£40 - £60 a night) but were central and had great facilities for kids, laundry etc. We didn’t freedom camp, partly as 4yo is a bit of a flight risk and the spots were often near roads, no boundaries etc. Also I didn’t want to risk getting to places and them being full. As it happens the ones we drove past never really were but that’s often the case mid summer apparently.

We did a cruise on Milford which was beautiful! Another high light was the gondola in queenstown, spectacular views. Also the kiwi life centre right next to the gondola.

Second week was north island staying with family so less tips to share from that. Hopefully some of the South Island info may be helpful though!

DesperatelySeeking2016 · 09/04/2018 06:13

We are also just back and have had amazing weather. On the North island we went to the coromandel peninsula and did a boat trip, hobbiton, the luge at Rotorua which was great fun but very busy and Te Papa museum in Wellington which was fantastic. On the South Island we spent a couple of days walking in Abel Tasman, tried but failed to get a helicopter up to the glacier (the only bad weather we had) and then went to christchurch and did a dolphin cruise at Akaroa. We had a wonderful time and although busy just under 3 weeks was feasible. We flew via Singapore.

ItsalmostSummer · 09/04/2018 06:36

Yes Re: the driving conditions in NZ. Many more single lane roads than the UK, also more winding and bendy. People take for granted the smaller population and less traffic and assume it’s safer. Easter always has more accidents on the roads, but increased police presence helps.
Think about flying between a few cities Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch or Queenstown, and have a good look around those spots. That’s plenty to do in two weeks, including getting over the jet lag.

ItsalmostSummer · 09/04/2018 06:40

And don’t go through LAX as others say. You really just go and sit in a room with no shops while waiting for the plane to refuel. It’s no bigger than a classroom I recall, basic tea and coffee facilities, and toilets, not a pleasant stopover experience like all the other places around the world. (LAX is more like a motorway service stop without the shops, same ambiance if you know what I mean Grin).

MooseyMoo · 09/04/2018 09:38

If you are planning on coming back, then would suggest sticking to North Island this trip and do South Island next time. Otherwise you will spend most of the time travelling.

Highly recommend Hidden Valley www.orakeikorako.co.nz for fantastic mud pools and geysers.

If you like wine, then Waiheke Island is a 35min ferry trip from Auckland and you can vineyard hop.

TheresSomebodyAtTheDoor · 09/04/2018 10:15

Your holidays sound wonderful Travelling and desperately!!

Really glad I spotted this thread! Dh and I have just decided after many years of contemplating that we will go to NZ Easter 2019 with our 3 dc (will be 10, 7, 3).
We will request a week either side of the Easter holidays off school so that we have 4 weeks with a 3 night stopover on the way and a 5 night mini holiday on the way back. As we will be in NZ primarily to visit family in Auckland, we will probably only have 1.5 - 2 weeks to sight see so will stick to the North Island. Thanks for all the great tips on where to visit. Love the idea of geothermal area and wine tour. Dd would love to do some body boarding and we all love wildlife spotting.

We will be on a tight budget but I'm keen to make the money we do spend go as far as possible (like everyone else!)
Ideally, we'd like to stopover in either Tokyo or HK on the way (possibly go to Disneyland), and a beach with sunshine on the way back (does anyone have any tips on where this could be??)

I love the idea of skycouch, is Air NZ the only airline to do this? Does Air NZ only fly via LAX?

Travellinghopefully2018 · 09/04/2018 20:46

Desperately Akaroa and Abel Tasman are on my list for next time! Both areas look gorgeous.

somebody we stopped in Dubai on the way back, the weather was lovely beach weather there (early 30s) so that might be an option?

For geothermal attractions we found Taupo to be a great base, there are some cheaper and free areas near there which are a bit less crowded than the ones around Rotorua. Craters of the Moon is one and there are also some fantastic mud pools which are free, just a dept of conservation site with board walks, on one of the roads between Rotorua and Taupo (will need to check which road as I can’t recall off the top of my head!).

rookiemere · 15/04/2018 14:33

Oh goody more replies !

We tried a campervan at Easter in Scotland. To be fair it was the week it snowed, but particularly as campsites are expensive in NZ I think we’ll stick to motor lodges and hotels

Still undecided if we should try to do both islands. If we did we’d fly between the two. Qantas stop at Singapore en route and as there is a universal studios there - amongst other things obviously Wink- we’re going to stop over for a couple of nights on the way over.

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