Buggy for long haul to S.E. Asia?

[Aomlette]

Seen several threads on this topic but most several years old so I thought I'd ask for an update.
Planned long-haul to SE Asia soon and a new buggy is in mind.
Clearly easily collapsed, lightweight and it will be used on pretty rough ground from time to time.

I mentally short listed BJCM and Mclarren, but would welcome any particular recommendations. Buggy-occupant will be 5-6 months old at time of travel.

Buy the cheapest one you can and leave it behind? A few friends did that.

Yes, get a second hand and ditch it before you leave. Where are you going? Many parts of Asia don't have pavements so a sling will be your best best.

We had a maclaren for our twins when we went to Bali at 3 months and it was fab. Mind you, we lost it in luggage on the way home, so the only thing I'd say is not to spend too much money. Also, I'd take a baby carrier like a Connecta Solarweave; unless you're in shopping malls, resorts, or a nice city like Singapore, it's unlikely you'll be able to push them around much.

I was also going to say that outside Singapore, KL and resorts, pavements are at a premium.

You'll be lucky if you can use a buggy. Fine in shopping malls in Bangkok, KL or Singapore, or the airport, but otherwise a buggy is a faff. I'd use a sling, definitely and avoid a buggy. I used a sling with DS2 until he was 8m and he was a 10lb at birth. Much easier

Ta everyone. Yes baby carrier is already an item for around BKK.

Very familiar with pavements in Bangkok, Pattaya, etc, so deffo no-go for wheels. Pavements are commonly used by motorbikes as much as pedestrians in any case.
Buggy'll be used mainly when staying with family in "back-of-beyond" Surin in Thailand. Mainly unsurfaced roads.
Can't really dump the buggy there as we'll need it on the return trip :-(

Right. Well, in the event of unsurfaced roads it might not be ideal to have a maclaren as they're hard to push on uneven/gravelly ground. BJCM or maybe a nipper? Definitely a jogger of some sort I reckon.

Thanks for the advice. The BJCM looks good and came out as a best buy on Which?.
just good to hear others views.

I would get baby jogger city mini GT. It's the bigger wheels you will want

For smallness I would say babyzen yoyo 0+ but wheels might not cope off ground.

What about the regular babyzen yoga?

Mmmmm... so many options! Which is why I posted the question of course.
I think I'll go for a second hand (ebay) buggy... just for use around the airport terminals. I've a Baby Bjorn carrier which will come into its own, so it seems a waste to shell out on an expensive buggy which may well get damaged or lost.
The BJCM does appeal though... maybe for use here at home as our Quinny Buzz + carrycot is getting too cumbersome.
Thanks again for all the advice. :-)

I would def look into a different sling if possible. A babybjorn will be heavy and hurt back after half hour or so.

One with waist support etc will be fine all day. Ie a soft structured carrier like manduca/ boba 4g

Sorry, I must slightly disagree here. We've been using the Baby-Bjorn "Active" for numerous longish walks and I must say it's a dream to use. Very comfy and supportive. The Active model does have extra lumbar support (for the parent). Don't think the Active's available from new any more. We did have the "Original" model Baby Bjorn and, yes, this was not as comfy to use for long periods, hence the 'slightly' disagree :-).

Ah ok no idea what the 'active' is like. Just a heads up as usually babybjorn ok with light newborn for short walks, but try carrying a 4/6/12 month in all day sightseeing it becomes horrid. Seeing your planning on travelling with baby when 3 months, I'm assuming baby is current less than that so quite small

( we did Vietnam for 2 months with ds1 18 months and ds2 12 weeks )

"try carrying a 4/6/12 month in all day"
Ouch! You're a saint!

Our DS is currently a mere 5 weeks old but will be 5-6 months old when we travel in Feb/March next year.
One thing I meant to ask is...
What about not taking a buggy at all and rely completely on the baby carrier/sling? Anyone any advice on that?
After all the buggy'll only get used in the airport lounge and transit. It's not going to get much use in deepest rural Thailand and it could be a pain navigating with two suitcases and a buggy. OK one can put hand luggage in the buggy if infant isn't in it but.......

It really isn't ouch with a decent sling.

We did the above mentioned trip to Vietnam with no pram. I had ds2 in sling on front, dh had ds1 in sling on back ( and walking when he could). For us a pram would have been a pain. We just took one large holdall between us all, I had small rucksack, and dh a side bag ( with laptop etc in for work). Any more luggage would have been a pain for on and off various transport. We did move around however.

One thing - take no toys for baby, won't need, takes up space, and can find something there ie household/ sticks/ etc to occupy. Also really consider condensing luggage. Really for baby 5/6 months just enough for x2 changes a day for 3 days. So 6 baby vests, and 6 sleep suits. X2 cardigans. Saves socks/ two part outfits. If hot just put in vest. I just rinsed in sink each eve, takes 2 mins. If not sickly 6 outfits could last 6 days no washing if needed, but one rinse daily is quicker. That supply basically fits in tiny space

I would look at a duffle bag with wheels tbh. One that can be worn as rucksack if needed. Suitcases don't work well on crap paths

Oh and I really recommend the luggage organisers form 'muji' means you can have all babies in one, yours in other, dh in another etc without getting all muddled. We always have one with electricals also.

Good advice, thank you. Although we won't be travelling about in-country that much; once there we'll be with family. Although I reckon there'll be a holiday for mum & dad (us) whilst DS spends time with grandma/pop. :-)

Yes I'm coming round to thought of not taking a buggy at all.

Having family in Surin has meant numerous trips to Thailand over the years but this is the first with offspring in tow hence the questions.
A couple of nights in Bangkok to lose the jet lag and chill out a bit then its an 8-hour bus journey to Surin. Both in BKK and around the farm in Surin a buggy would be a farce and in any case one of the numerous aunts and uncles may well have some form of wheels.
As for toys, same, aunts, uncles and grandparents will have this dept well covered.
All-in-all sounds like I'm answering my own original questions aren't I?? :-)
Thanks again for all the advice.

Yes! Take a neck pillow you can inflate and use as pillow on bus for baby so your arm doesn't go dead, and muslin as blanket for comfort if hot

Baby yoyo by zen as it is collapsable into the overhead locker and doesn't need checking in and a sling!!

Ah yes... the YoYo.
I had a serious look at this online and it looks ideal for sky travel.
It's somewhat pricey but I'll look at this option a little nearer the time.
As you say, a sling and this does sound a reasonable proposition. Let's see how the cash flow is after Xmas....