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South Africa advice please

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Belo · 22/09/2006 14:06

Advice please...

We've got a holiday planned in SA for the end of Jan. We're flying into J'berg and want to explore KwaZula Natal (Battlefields, Drakensberg, St Lucia wildlife park and Pietermartizberg).

What's the drive like to KZN like from J'berg? We get into J'beg at 6am. Is it do-able after an overnight flight from Heathrow with 2 small kids? If so, any suggestions as to what would be a good stopping point enroute?

Or, would we be better off getting an internal flight to Duban and starting our exploration from there? If so, any suggestions of somewhere nice to stay near Durban? I don't think we fancy Durban itself.

Thank you in advance....

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dejags · 22/09/2006 17:22

Hi Belo,

If you are flying back to the UK from JHB, then definitely fly to Durban. You will be knackered after the long flight and will be in no state to drive to Durban - it would take 6 hours on a good day.

Internal flights in South Africa are 10 a penny and very reasonable if booked in advance.

Also, is Cape Town on your itinerary? - you can't go to SA and not go to Cape Town. That's like visiting Australia and not seeing the Sydney Opera House - well IMO anyway.

If you need any advice, feel free to cat me.

Dejags
PS: I live in Cape Town, when not travelling

dejags · 22/09/2006 17:23

Didn't make myself clear:

what I meant was:

Fly to Durban on the way there and drive back on the way home - i.e. when you are less tired.

foxinsocks · 22/09/2006 17:32

It is knackering that flight - the drive to Natal from Jhb is not that bad though. A very good highway (toll) links the two cities and I'm sure it didn't used to take me 6 hours (I seem to remember around 3/4 hours) but then I was working, had no kids and probably drove a lot faster than I should have done!

The flight however, is only around 45mins/1 hour and there are so many, it's really much easier to fly and you really want your wits about you on SA roads!

Durban itself is a fantastic experience but if you don't fancy it, Umhlanga is a lovely place to stay and only around 20km from Durban itself.

Belo · 22/09/2006 20:50

Hi, Thanks for advice. We're flying back from Cape Town so are planning on spending the last part of the holiday there. We've been before and spent a week in the peninsula and loved it. Lucky you dejags. We'll get an internal flight from Durban to Cape Town after we've explored KZN.

I'll have a look into Umhangla. I may think of questions to CAT you with Dejags. Thanks for the offer.

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Belo · 27/09/2006 09:37

Another question - we're thinking of spending a night in J'berg before attempting the drive as there are some places en route we would like to stop off on (Battlefields near Ladysmith - plus any other suggestions??).

So, we're looking into the idea of staying the night in a nice hotel with a swimming pool where we can crash out around for the day. Somewhere that's kid friendly. Perhaps rural going in the right direction.

Any suggestions? FoxinSocks and Dejags do you know anywhere?

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plug · 27/09/2006 09:53

you lucky things

I can't help with your questions directly as we haven't been to Durban or KZN but I just wanted to recommend a great book for accommodation in SA here . It really is worth a look.

HTH

Belo · 27/09/2006 11:10

I've had a look at the website and I really like the idea of the 'highlights' book. I think I may go for that one. I like the fact that it has suggestions of what to do with kids. Ours will be 4 and 18 months when we go. Thank you.

And yes, I am very lucky. I can't quite believe myself that we're going .

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foxinsocks · 27/09/2006 11:13

if you do that drive down, you might as well do the drakensburg on the way down (as you'll be going that way anyway!)

when you find out where you're staying in the drakensburg let me know - I spent many a holiday there so know bits of it very well (but not all of it)

will wrack my brains to think of somewhere - problem with staying in Jhb, is that most of the nice hotels are centred around the northern suburbs (Sandton etc.) but I'll have a think for you.

foxinsocks · 27/09/2006 11:29

here are two sites that will be of use to you (and I see that they reckon it does take 6 hrs from Jhb to Durban so I shudder to think how fast I drove when I used to work round there - very bad)

Shell Geostar - has a good journey planner

and the AA of SA site

foxinsocks · 27/09/2006 11:39

actually, you can make the northern part of the drakensburg in around 3-4 hours from Jhb. I've stayed in a few hotels round there - Mont Aux Sources, Sani Pass, Drakensburg Sun, Cathedral Peak. There are also loads of self catering/lodges etc. round there. Let me know what you are looking for and I'll see if I can help you out.

Belo · 27/09/2006 12:40

Thank you so much Foxinsocks. I'm going to show this thread to dh and have a bit of a planning session over the next 2 days. I'm so excited about this holiday. I'll let you know how our plans evolve and pick your brain again!

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TinCan · 27/09/2006 17:15

One of the most amazing travel experiences I have had was a visit to Kayamundi, a township outside Cape Town. The tour was organised by Selwyn Davidowitz. More info on ILoveCapeTown.com

Restaurants in Franschoek are amazing.

hockeymum · 30/09/2006 12:43

sorry, just seen this message and your trip sounds very much like the one we did in April last year.

We flew from J'berg to Durban, was an hour and a half so very easy.

We stayed in a little bunglow villa complex in St. Lucia and it is lovely around there, lots and lots of crocs, hippos etc. There were cheetah wandering around the village at night along with hippos and you need to be very careful of both.

We also drove the hour or so from St. Lucia to the game reserves at hluhuwe and umfaloze (I know I've spelt those very wrong!) and they were fantastic. It was very cheap to get into them iirc. We saw the big 5 quite easily, and whole herds of elephants which were fabulous.

Have you been to that area before?

Let me know if you have any other questions

Belo · 04/10/2006 08:55

ooh hockeymum - lots of questions for you. What was the drive like between Durban and St. Lucia? Did you do it all in one go and if so, how long did it take? or Did you do any stop offs, and if so can you recommend anywhere? Also, is malaria an issue in the game reserves where you went? Our dds will be 1 and 4 so probably too young for anti-malerials. I read about those reserves (I'm not even going to attempt to spell them!) and they did sound really good. Did you go with children?

Did you explore any other areas of KZN?

We're trying to work out how much time to spend there as we are flying out from Cape Town. We want to get an internal flight from Durban to Cape Town and have a few days in Cape Town before flying home. As we've already had a holiday in Cape Town/Garden Route/Winelands we want to make sure we have enough time to see everything we want to in KZN.

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hockeymum · 04/10/2006 12:54

Hi Belo

Yes, we drove straight from Durban to Cape Town. We arrived Joberg at 6am ish then transferred straight to flight to Durban (By the way, when you get off the plane in Joberg you are literally mobbed by people literally taking your trolley off you and then asking for money - they are licensed I think, they wear yellow boiler suits, we kept saying No, but you have to be really firm and just keep moving -they even warn you about them before you disembark the plane - it's a big overwhelming after a night flight to be honest). We got to Durban at lunchtime and had a bite to eat there, Durban airport much nicer and a few nice eating places in there. I think the drive to St. Lucia took about 2 1/2 hours, the weird thing is how many people walk along the motorways and main roads, we were driving at dusk and it was pretty hairy at times. It gets dark at about 6pm all year round.

In St. Lucia there are plenty of restaurants all of the ones we went to were happy to have children there, my dd was 2 1/2 at the time and they were all very friendly, the fruit juices are AMAZING there so she drank lots of those and they all had kids menu type stuff.

Malaria - its a bit of a difficult area for that, basically about 3-4 years ago malaria was rife there but they had a big eradication programme and became malaria free. My cousins live in Pietermaritzberg (about an hour from Durban) and we were with them,they decided not to take anti-malarials and thought it was quite funny that we decided to be safe rather than sorry and take them. We took Malarone which is the most expensive one, but has least side effects. However, with a little bit of anti-mossie stuff we didn't get bitten at all. All anti-malarials taste revolting and I don't think we managed to trick dd to take even one dose (not even mixed with chocolate).

We had 2 days in the parks, they are right next to each other so we did umfoloze one day and Hluhuwe the next. Personally I could have done even more. You just drive right in (registering your car at the gate) DD was very happy in the back as we removed her car seat once we got into the park, so she just sat on the back seat using a pair of binoculars. Take a picnic with you as there aren't a whole lot of rest areas, although there are some nice ones near craft shops. You will find that other people in the park will stop when they drive past you if they know where any good finds are (one guy was really funny as he was just a tourist but had kitted himself out like a park warden and insisted on showing us where these lionesses are - we're very glad he did as we would have missed them lounging under a tree)

We also spent a couple of days around St. Lucia, we went on a boat trip (saw lots of hippos, crocs and heron, great for children) and spent a day on the beach (lovely warm indian ocean but big waves so hold on to both of your lo's hands!)
Oh and the craft stalls on the main drag in St. Lucia are great, good prices, the same stuff that is in the national park area but much cheaper)

We went to a Zulu cultural centre back near Durban which was great. DD loved all the singing and traditional dancing, it was very professional.

If you email me, I'll send you back some pictures of the area to show just why you HAVE to go! My address is [email protected]

We also spent 10 days in Cape Town, but you already know how great that is! Don't forget you must spend an afternoon at Borders beach swimming with the penguins - it was dd's highlight of the whole trip.

hockeymum · 04/10/2006 12:55

email address didn't come out right on that
try maple underscore leaf underscore fan at hotmail dot co dot uk

hockeymum · 04/10/2006 13:16

D'Oh after all that typing my brain has gone soft.

My email is:
maple underscore leafs underscore fan at hotmail dot co dot uk

I had a brain once!

Belo · 04/10/2006 15:55

I've emailed you hockeymum.

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