I want to go on holiday in Spain and go to Morocco

[Beetroot]

But I don't do crowds.

And I want water sports

and a villa

I await the perfect place!!!

A nudist AND a water sports fan.....

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I went to Marocco via Malaga recently for work and basically we flew into Malaga airport and drove to Tarife and got the hydrofoil over. It only takes 35 minutes and it's amazing to reach somewhere so different in such a short time. Just find a villa near Tarife and hire a car.

what is tarifa like???

So where in Spain is nice? Is it worth visiting? apart from the cities?

Whatever you do, do not take the day ferry from Algeciras to Tangiers. We did it years ago, and it was a colossal error. You get so hassled on arrival, you end up having to take a guide (both DH and I are quite assertive people, but you get followed, and annoyed, and followed and annoyed, and so you give up and accept one, and then that one scares off all the others), but you hate the guide, and there is a carpet store, and it's all just bad.

Food was nice, though.

the \link{http://www.andalucia.com/cities/granada/alhamhistory.htm\alhambra} is impressive

Ronda sounds good, gorges. No sea. Interesting terrain. We stayed in Gibraltar, which I would not recommend. We visited some tiny something-de-la-frontera town up in the hills that was much nicer. Algeciras is manky, very port.

as is \link{http://www.andalucia.com/cities/cordoba.htm\cordoba}

Javea, Denia, Oliva, Benicassim - no crowds, watersports, but a little too far north for Morocco too. Whymummy knows, as she is from Benicassim, but she hasn't been on MN for ages. Lucy5 knows Tarifa etc, she lives in Estepona (also nice, but not sure about Villa) The hills around Granada / Seville are fabulouds, but possibly too far from the coast. Costa de la Luz is quieter and on the right location for trips to Morocco.

Beetroot,Morocco is fantastic.
Dh and I went acouple of years ago and just bumbled around for a month.
Bloody loved every minute of it.
You'renot going soon are you?
It is hot as Hades now.

Tarife is ok not exactly a destination resort but kind of pretty. Tangiers was not as bad as I was expecting hassle-wise, the King of marrocco has passed a law preventing shop owners chasing you down the street and it seems to be quite effective.

Forgot to add, Javea, Denia etc all on Costa Blanca, one hour from Valencia/ Alicante airports. Spacedonkey may know some places?

Before I met dh I spent a number of holidays staying around Marbella/Mijas. We would always drive down to Algerciras and get the boat over the Tangier for a couple of days. I found it a fantastic experience -the contrast between the lifestyles is just huge. At the time I had friends in Tangier - one who ran a hotel - so we were 'protected'. But I loved it - although I know others who think it is a 'filthy hole' (quote), and would never return.

those look good.

i would love to take thekids to Morocco. But we are thinking in July..how hot is hot as hades?

30 plus, deffo. I was once in Seville on business in July and the temps reached 40 degrees

dont mind 30s but 40 might kill us especially if we sight seeing...hmmm....

oh where oh where shall i go on holiday

\link{http://www.morocco-travel.com/h/TemperaturesWeather/index.html\Morocco temps in deg F}

Are you usually a Grecophile Beety? Why the Spanish inquisition?

going to greece in October and fancy doing something different.
Could go anywhere really

Deffo 40C+ at that time.
We went in may and it was already frighteningly hot.

i do have an urge to go to morocco still

I can reccomend the Movenpick hotel in Tangiers, it's 5 star but not European prices and if you are just going over from Spain for a look it is nice to have somewhere luxurious as Tangier is a bit raw around the edges.

yes that does look a good option Carmenere.

puerto duquesa is further down the coast than mijas. we are staying in marbella this year as we got a cheap deal, but we hope to stay in puerto duquesa next year as it is so unspoilt - no high rise hotels which i hate so much. puerto duquesa

my friend recommends these apartments - apartments - they are 30 mins from gibralter where you can get a ferry to morocco.