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Born before 1959? Want to chat about your memories of the 1960s and 1970s?

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SequentialAnalyst · 01/10/2023 12:38

This is a thread to do just that Smile And to compare, contrast, and discuss our memories of living through those times with MNers around the world, and share good stuff from those days we might have overlooked back in the day Smile

I'm sorry to have to write this: but please No BabyBoomer Blaming or Bashing.

Wherever you come from, whatever your experience, whether you saw the Stones in the Park, or whether you could only listen longingly to Radio Luxembourg on your transistor radio in your bedroom, this is the place for you.

@AcrossthePond55 Could you do a similar para re the range of US experiences?

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SequentialAnalyst · 01/10/2023 17:42

Take it from me! It takes one to know one! Wink

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AcrossthePond55 · 01/10/2023 17:44

SequentialAnalyst · 01/10/2023 17:42

Take it from me! It takes one to know one! Wink

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Roussette · 01/10/2023 17:54

On the telephone thing... with it just being 3 digits, at one point, you picked up the phone and an operator would say "Number Please"... told you I was old! It was a manual system, I remember it well.

Great post and soo interesting @AcrossthePond55

I used to love some of the US programmes back in the day, I had older siblings so used to watch some of them with them... Bonanza, Champion the Wonder Horse, Lone Ranger, I Love Lucy, Beverley Hillbillies and my two absolute favourites of all time MASH and Sargeant Bilko !

My DH was addicted to Soap. He had all the videos!

eggandonion · 01/10/2023 17:57

@Acrossthepond55 we visited a mate of dhs in Passadena at the end of the eighties. We were taken around in his enormous car. He had been a surfer. The main thing I remember was that we mustnt go north of the freeway or west of Lake
I really miss having lots of shops to visit. Ordering stuff is a nuisance...although my mums friend had a Freemans catalogue which was amazing.

eggandonion · 01/10/2023 18:00

I liked Mr Ed and Green Acres. And on British telly the old Children's Film Foundation things. Was Davy Jones in them before the Monkees?

OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 01/10/2023 18:00

@SequentialAnalyst ·Thank you for your welcome. I was born early 70s. First band I was into - Adam and the Ants as everyone was at the time. My husband was born 1961 so just about remembers the sixties - my parents were 18 in 1960 so the right age to make the most of it! My mum was living in Liverpool at the height of Beatlemania 😆

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/10/2023 18:27

AcrossthePond55
I've read (mostly on MN) about the post war shortages, rationing, and 'austerity' in Britain that seem to have lasted until the '70s and I wonder why the US didn't do more to help the UK during the postwar period. We say we have a 'special relationship' but it doesn't seem like we were very generous. So, possibly a naive question...was it really as bad as it's portrayed? No heating, rationing, outdoor plumbing, sharing bathwater, food shortages are some of the things I've heard mentioned. Were these things 'reality' in post war Britain or just lifestyle 'holdovers' in families from the wartime shortages?

It's all a bit patchwork. For instance, the very last thing came "off the ration" in 1954 (I think it may have been bacon, which was also one of the first things that was rationed). And though the US government was more generous to the Germans than to the British (we paid off the last of the US post-war loan sixty years on, at the end of 2006, whereas the Germans got the Marshall Plan and a lot of help to rebuild their factories), individual Americans were wonderfully generous with food parcels for ages after the war had ended.

It wasn't as bad as it was portrayed because people were used to it. You don't hanker after what you don't really know exists! We didn't have a fridge in the fifties, but then nor did anyone else we knew, so we didn't feel deprived. A lot of people got a telly for the coronation in 1953, but a lot of people didn't and went next door or to Them Down The Street to watch the coronation on theirs. Nobody missed foreign holidays or going by air because those only happened for the Rich, and if you weren't rich they didn't happen. Fitted carpets? Only in hotels, and only in expensive hotels at that. Lino was the norm for most people, with a carpet in the middle of the main (sitting/living) room with the end of it under the sofa.

Because my father was crippled (his chosen word: he was very clear that he had not been disabled!) during the war (not a war wound, he got polio in the Indian Army), we got a car when I was five; before that he rode a bicycle to work, and I think it may have hurt him horribly but he never complained. It was just that a car was a priority: we couldn't really afford it, but we were happy to do without other things so that DDG could get the mile-and-a-half in to work more easily; he would not have been able to walk it, and he did so hate the bicycle. He called it rude names.

No heating: yes. And chilblains as a result. Anyone a bit younger than I am is quite likely not to know what chilblains are; anyone my ago or older does know and is really glad their children never had to. No heating also meant water frozen in the mug by the bed when you woke up in the morning, on some winter days. Two of our five bedrooms had gas fires in them, but they were only used if someone was ill (me again!) and the doctor said the patient had to be kept warm. And since the doctor did house-calls for children, he knew at once if the room they were in was too cold: if he kept his overcoat on, he was going to prescribe hot-water-bottles as well as penicillin.

We were middle-class, so we did have indoor plumbing, and a washing machine (top loading twin tub, with a mangle), but we also had shared bathwater, eldest first simply because he was likely to be cleanest; with three children it made sense for them to wash in the same hot water, because heating the water was expensive.

So was food. Not shortages exactly, but for example except in autumn when the apple trees were fruiting we children were allowed three fruit a day each: one apple, one orange and one banana. It was deeply sinful to steal fruit that belonged to one of the others! And that was because they were good for us but they cost a lot. We were more likely to get stewed bottled rhubarb (bottled from the garden) than fresh fruit. But we got one penny per year of our age given to us each Saturday, to spend however we wanted.

Oh, and bread was sold by the baker from house to house using a horse and cart. He would stop outside and shout "bre-ead!" and people came out of the nearby houses to buy it, and lardy-cake if there was money spare for it that week. That was one less thing that had to be bought when my mother went food-shopping in the morning at the local shops; they were about a quarter of a mile away, and if she would be getting heavy things like potatoes she would take her bicycle so they could be put into the basket at the front instead of her carrying them. There was no supermarket in the town where I lived, not until I suppose 1965 or so. Possibly even later. Milk was delivered, but the milkman only delivered milk, not eggs or yoghurt.

And nobody I knew except my mother cooked using olive oil or garlic.

And that is quite enough. I dunnalf go on.

SequentialAnalyst · 01/10/2023 19:55

@AcrossthePond55 do you want to put a record on this time?

And pass me that album cover Wink

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SequentialAnalyst · 01/10/2023 19:57

oops Or @AskingQuestionsAllTheTime, do you want to do the honours?
(We three, plus @Roussette IIRC, met on another thread, which gave us the idea for this one.)

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JayAlfredPrufrock · 01/10/2023 20:00

I was born in 1959. Can I join?

Afghan coats that stank of patchouli oil.

JayAlfredPrufrock · 01/10/2023 20:02

My earliest memory is being bathed in the twin tub washing machine during a hard winter when we had no water.

SequentialAnalyst · 01/10/2023 20:07

OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 01/10/2023 18:00

@SequentialAnalyst ·Thank you for your welcome. I was born early 70s. First band I was into - Adam and the Ants as everyone was at the time. My husband was born 1961 so just about remembers the sixties - my parents were 18 in 1960 so the right age to make the most of it! My mum was living in Liverpool at the height of Beatlemania 😆

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Ahem. Which Beatle? You, your DH, your DM and your DF. I bet your DM has some tales she could tell - and some tales she definitely wouldn't tell you.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/10/2023 20:19

SequentialAnalyst · 01/10/2023 19:57

oops Or @AskingQuestionsAllTheTime, do you want to do the honours?
(We three, plus @Roussette IIRC, met on another thread, which gave us the idea for this one.)

What, a record? Hmmm. Well, we've had the hippy-dippy (I once nearly saw the Incredibles at the Roundhouse, but it sold out before we got to the top of the steps: that would have been in 1968, I think) so there ought to be a representative track from a different end of things. I enjoyed most music of the time: the Stones and the Beatles and the Kinks and the Who and Fairport and Francoise Hardy and the New Vaudeville Band and James Taylor and ELP and the Shadows and Al Stewart and the Lovin' Spoonful and and Pink Floyd

Does anyone remember The Rock Machine Turns You On and Rock Machine I Love You and Fill Your Head With Rock?

Ten years later:

Ian Dury & The Blockheads Billericay Dickie 1977

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuNyzEa0gU8

FishPie2 · 01/10/2023 20:21

How strange now telling young children we would go to a record shop and be directed to a booth to listen before you bought it.
I bought a trouser suit in Chelsea girl one Friday morning and took it home as I was working a split shift. When I got home from work couldn't find the suit then my mother said if it was a checked one my sister had just gone out in it as she liked it so much. I only wore it once as everybody thought it was my sisters.

SequentialAnalyst · 01/10/2023 20:23

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime Oh yes, I remember those records.
Sorry to remind people, but wasn't Come Away Melinda one of the tracks? Listening to it was to me like hearing chalk scrape on a blackboard. Thank God for Spotify track skipping!

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SequentialAnalyst · 01/10/2023 20:28

@JayAlfredPrufrock my English teacher loved that poem. And thanks to her, so do I.

You definitely fit the criteria:

Born In The 50's

Provided to YouTube by Universal Music GroupBorn In The 50's · The PoliceOutlandos D'Amour℗ 2003 A&M Records LimitedReleased on: 1978-11-02Producer: The Poli...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_OQrzXpALE

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JayAlfredPrufrock · 01/10/2023 20:39

In the room the women come and go / Talking of Michelangelo

Hesperatum · 01/10/2023 20:39

Remember going to record shop on a Saturday just to wait for the boy behind the counter to notice me😬 (he didn’t) Record playing was Herman’s Hermits ‘No Milk Today’. 1966 Hounslow

JayAlfredPrufrock · 01/10/2023 20:41

I used to ride my pony in a pair of hand me down jeans with Cockney Rebel written in felt pen down the legs. I remember the local Bobby stopping me to ask what I had written on my jeans.

A policeman. Walking

Millybob · 01/10/2023 20:53

Remember those white boots with crinkly vinyl legs? If you couldn't afford boots, you could buy white plastic knee socks to wear with your ordinary white plastic shoes. Either way, they had elasticated tops to hold them up - must have been the launch pad for many a varicose vein in later life.
And scratchy disposable paper knickers?
And split ends? Was it Protein21 shampoo that was supposed to miraculously cure them? I don't think advertising standards were as stringent as today.
And switching the telly on 10 minutes early so it had time to 'heat up'? And thumping it to get rid of the snowstorm?
And checking phone boxes for returned pennies?
And collecting bottles to return for the deposit? A good pocket money boost after Christmas.
And the gastronomic excitement when they invented cheese and onion crisps?

OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 01/10/2023 20:54

@SequentialAnalyst Beatles - I'm a Ringo gal. Mum and DH - John. My dad spurned them in favour of The Monkees (he grew up round the corner from Davy Jones 😃).

FormerlySpeckledyHen · 01/10/2023 21:02

Using baby lotion as cleanser. Hint of a tint on my auburn hair that didn’t need it.
Seeing The Love Affair, Amen Corner, Free, The Who …. Etc etc.Happy days.

SequentialAnalyst · 01/10/2023 21:02

Funnily enough, another question The Weird Sisters from the Trump thread came up with.
Which Monkee?
Mike Nesmith mmm

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Roussette · 01/10/2023 21:13

@Millybob Yes to all that! I loved my white plastic knee high boots! I had a hotpants suit. It was navy and white. Very stylish... short sleeves, buttoned to the waist then flared open with hotpants edged in white underneath, along with the white plastic boots!

Does anyone remember Brian Jones of the Stones dying... me and my friends carried out an all night vigil at his grave with candles, guitars and singing. I was desperate to get to bed but didn't want to lose face with the older girls there who I was at college with.... we left at dawn 😮

tobee · 01/10/2023 21:33

So I'm a decade too young for this thread but I'd like to ask what memories people have of 2 things:

  1. going on holidays - either with families or when you were a bit older and went without parents

  2. did any of you live in bed sit type places? Shared bathrooms and the like? My knowledge of this is from Man About the House and The Liverbirds etc I remember seeing an episode of one of those Back In Time type programmes and the teen girls got to move from the parental home to a facsimile of one and they found the facilities ghastly!! Whereas The Expert (Juliet Gardiner?) explained teens in those days were desperate to get away from their parents who interfered in their lives.

Looking forward to any memories. Smile

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