History club
Historical things that blow your mind
TunipTheVegemal · 20/09/2012 11:07
Here's mine (nicked from Cynthia Harnett in The Wool Pack)
Before the spinning wheel became widespread every single thread in every single item of clothing would have been spun by hand by a woman with a drop spindle. We'd have all been walking around with a drop spindle stuck in our girdle so we could spin with one hand at odd moments.
What minor or major facts about the past make your head spin?
JammySplodger · 20/09/2012 11:14
The shear number of lives lost in various WW1 battles. Still shocks me everytime.
And on a slightly lighter note, that people used to sling poo & pee into the street or, if they were a bit more refined, have a hole-in-a-bench type loo that simply stuck out over the street or back yard. The Middle Ages must have stunk!
SillyBeardyDaddyman · 20/09/2012 11:17
The first steam engine was invented by the ancient Egyptians!
TunipTheVegemal · 20/09/2012 11:18
I didn't know that!
On a similar note, the Antikythera Mechanism was quite a surprise.
JammySplodger · 20/09/2012 11:40
I quite like the theory that the Hanging Gardens of Babylon were irrigated using Archemides screws.
Paleodad · 20/09/2012 12:37
The minor things get me.
This summer, excavating in the agora area of a roman city, a member of the team found a ceramic roof tiles with the perfect impression of a small foot, perhaps (speculating wildly and romantically) the footprint of a naughty child playing where they shouldn't be.
A small thing, but a human connection across time that i find incredible.
Some0ne · 20/09/2012 13:21
In the Grotte de Peche Merle in France, half a mile underground, as well as amazing cave paintings, there are childrens' footprints - from 10,000 years ago. Seeing the cave paintings is one thing, but the footprints were truly mindboggling to me.
TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 21/09/2012 23:30
A random mosaic in the middle of a forest somewhere in England, remains of a house. Brought it home to me that it wasn't just nobles and "show homes" that were "history " - it was a bog standard house that was too. It is one drawback of museums - it puts all the good stuff in one place but gives you no feel that some of the artefacts were just everyday items.
TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 21/09/2012 23:35
And on the border of science and history - that all that we are, see and touch, all the elements on Earth, were made in stars.
That always blows my mind,
Nigglenaggle · 23/09/2012 20:27
Definitely with Paleodad on it being the human connections. For example the Roman letters found at Hadrians wall. Some of them could have been written in the not so distant past.
GoingforGoingforGOLD · 23/09/2012 20:51
Some bits of cathedrals and churches are getting on for 1000 years old
That amazes me
LaQueen · 24/09/2012 22:15
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akaemmafrost · 24/09/2012 22:38
The writing in the stones on the walls of the tower of London of prisoners from centuries ago. Some are covered with protective glass but others you can touch. You can actually touch the carved words of historical figures who quite often had been condemned to die. Love the Tower of London.
LRDtheFeministDragon · 24/09/2012 22:44
These are amazing.
For me: that, for centuries and centuries, it was women who taught children how to read, not men. It was wives and mothers who were literate and doing the early teaching, not men, and not schools.
I guess it seems basic to us now, but it stuns me when I think that the stereotype is that women 'usually couldn't read' and that access to written culture is such a big deal.
2) That every medieval manuscript I look at was written by hand and has survived centuries, but the modern paperbacks won't last much longer than we will.
3) That, if you were a medieval priest, you actually had a set of written rules about what you had to do if a spider fell into the communion wine. You had to drink the wine and eat the spider (so none of the 'blood of Christ' was wasted). If you were a squeamish medieval priest, you had to drink the wine - fish the spider out of the cup - burn the spider-corpse .... and eat the ashes.
That is definitely 'gross' not 'envy', there!
RustyBear · 24/09/2012 22:50
That we see more images in a single day than an average Victorian saw in a lifetime.
TunipTheVegemal · 25/09/2012 09:11
LaQueen's one is interesting because it's so un-obvious. I would look at a pyramid and think, yeah, we could do that now, easy! Sometimes it takes specialist knowledge to know what is hard.
Another thing is knowledge we take so much for granted that it's hard to imagine people not knowing it. For instance, germ theory of disease. I catch myself thinking 'but couldn't they SEE it was germs?', forgetting that I know it not because I worked it out myself but because scientists got there after a lot of time and looking through microscopes.
LRDtheFeministDragon · 25/09/2012 09:25
That's a pet hate in books (including the lovely Children of Winter, unfortunately). Fiction writers just assuming everyone did somehow know about germs.
rusty - I would love you to bits if you have a reference for that? I mean seriously, I'm not doubting you, I just want a reference!
LunaticFringe · 25/09/2012 09:40
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sleeplessinsuburbia · 25/09/2012 09:53
LRD check out "shift happens" it's updated nearly every year, I remember it once talking about that.
RustyBear · 25/09/2012 12:41
I don't have one, I'm afraid, but it was a policeman that told me! I was at a CEOPS conference on Internet safety for schools, and it was just said as an introduction to this guy's talk about safeguarding. I can easily believe it, though.
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