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OMG - please please please help re urgent university (Durham) choice question!!!!!!!!!!

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SalVolatile · 13/04/2009 21:37

DS1 has been studying Geography, Physics, Economics Alevels and geology AS. He has 5 offers in, and likes Durham the most (Earth Sciences). Problem is he has cold feet about the course, doesn't think his future career lies in geology, loves Durham but is panicking and HAS to reply by May 4th. Does he A) drop all offers and take a gap year and reapply, or B) choose Durham, start the course, and if he really does hate it, can he switch? We would really really really appreciate some advice from anyone who has experience of a similar situation please help!!! All his other offers are similar courses except he also has Real Estate at Reading.

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Habbibu · 13/04/2009 21:42

Best thing to do would be to phone Durham's admission's office and ask about switching courses - what their policy and practice is, etc. It's not uncommon for students to want to switch courses - it's usually easiest to do this within a Faculty, rather than into another one, but he certainly won't be the first.

The admissions office should be able to give you most of the information you need - they may also put you on to the Faculty office - not sure in Durham has faculties, but whatever the equivalent is, anyway.

bear in mind that I'm most used to Scottish universities, which are very flexible, so hope someone with better experience of the English system comes along...

Habbibu · 13/04/2009 21:45

Ok - quick google and this is what Durham's archaeology dept : has to say In the event that you wish to change your degree course, you must present yourself to the departments concerned within the first four weeks of the academic year, or at the time of registration for the next academic year in June. No transfers will be allowed after this time. You would be ill-advised to change course outside this time anyway because of the amount of work you will have missed.

To ensure the quality of student experience, we have target quota for each of our degree courses and winning a place on these degree courses is very competitive. It is possible to change degree programmes, but there is no automatic right to do so. The factors we take in to account are academic merit as well as availability of places on particular programmes. If you wish to change one or more modules, or even the degree programme you are studying you must seek advice from the department(s) concerned at the earliest opportunity. In Archaeology, this must be from the Director of Undergraduate Studies.

You will normally need to satisfy any pre-requisites for the module(s) or programme to which you wish to change. If you are permitted to change module or programme it is your responsibility to catch up the work which you have missed.

Transfers will not be supported, except where students have met the standard offer, as if they had applied through UCAS for that course, or other appropriate standards of entry for the course. However, meeting the standard requirements for the course is not sufficient alone for entry to the course. The acceptance of a student for a particular programme or set of modules will depend on the availability of places in the receiving programme as well as the ease, complexity and equity of the proposed arrangements, and cannot be guaranteed.

Students wishing to transfer into, or out of, Archaeology programmes must follow guidance and directions given by the Director of Undergraduate Studies who is the sole contact for any discussions about changing degree programme. You will also need to contact the appropriate advisor in the ?receiving? department. If both departments are in agreement, you will need to obtain a form from the Student Planning and Assessment office and written approval from both Departments. Acceptance of your transfer must be proposed by the Director of Undergraduate Studies and approved by the Board of Studies, subject to Faculty approval. If, in exceptional circumstances, you wish to transfer after the first four weeks of the academic year in addition to agreement from both Departments, as above, you will need to seek a concession from the Dean.

I'll see if there are similar things on tyhe geology etc pages.

Habbibu · 13/04/2009 21:47

Ah - this is interesting - looks a wee bit more like the Scottish system after all. Definitely call admissions office.

SalVolatile · 13/04/2009 21:50

OMG you are a STAR Habbibu, but it doesn't sound like a popular move.....has ANYONE had a teenager that has done this?

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TabithaTwitchet · 13/04/2009 21:58

My sister was at Durham and switched courses part way through - can't remember when exactly but after the first year, I think. She only just graduated last year so quite recently. I did the same thing at a different university (being indecisive obviously runs in the family). It wasn't in Earth sciences though. I knew quite a few people at my own university who switched, sometimes to very different subjects ie chemistry-music, languages-maths etc.

My advice would be, if he loves Durham then go for it, once you're in it's probably easier to make a switch (and he might find he enjoys the course anyway)

Lilymaid · 14/04/2009 12:47

Friend's son switched courses at Durham on his arrival there - he arrived to read Theology but changed to a general arts course.
I expect it is possible providing your DS doesn't want to do the most popular subjects or a subject where lab space is at a premium.

muddleduck · 14/04/2009 14:43

I've worked in admissions in an unrelated uni/subject.
Tell him not to panic and definitely not to withdraw from anything until he has made a final decision about what he wants to do. Habbibu has given you some excellent advice. Transfers within unis are IME fairly common and easy as long as he meets their entry requirements and the course is not too full. It is clearly in their interests to get him into a course that he is likely to complete. He can probably make the switch at any point from now until the first few weeks of term.

SalVolatile · 14/04/2009 19:22

Thanks, everyone altho' I am still worried. Sounds like he needs to focus on the courses and content (just when I need him to focus on revision

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Indith · 14/04/2009 19:33

I went to Durham and changed my course after a year (I only graduated last June so not long ago) In my case I was still doing much the same stuff just in a different order which meant a change of course hence being able to do it after a year. Anyway, at pretty much any uni it is easy to change course so long as there are spaces in what you want to do.

It is worth bearing in mind that you cannot transfer onto combined honours in arts (not sure about science) because too many people were doing so. Also, some modules within courses are very popular and are capped so switching once other people have registered puts you at the back of the queue. Eg one year there was major trouble with history because there were just too many people wanting to do it when you added the combined students (who can do anything they want) to the history students. Things like this can affect his being able to switch.

Looking at his A-levels though I doubt there would be much trouble given that there tends to be more space in sciences.

SalVolatile · 14/04/2009 23:05

Indith, DS asks how did you find it and did you enjoy it? He's down for St Chads.....

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Indith · 15/04/2009 11:44

I had a great time. Chads is a lovely college (dh went there) that is just the right size that you know almost everyone but still big enough for sports teams, rowing etc. They started putting a panto on each year recently too and loads of people get invbolved in the decoration and planning for their big ball each year. I think the great thing about having the college system is you get to know a lot of people. Also it gives you the chance to get involved in sports or music and drama even if you are not at a university level as all the colleges have teams as well as the main iniversity teams. Chad's doesn't have an orchestra unless one has sprung up recently but a few people from various colleges who don't want to go for university orchestra play for the Castle one.

Upshot is, something for most people

frannikin · 16/04/2009 20:25

I switched courses - not at Durham - lots of paperwork but rarely as difficult as universities like to make it out to be. If in doubt Durham has a fairly good student advice type centre.

Having been in this situation take the offer through UCAS, you can arrange to defer privately with the uni and then either consider reapplication in September, go immediately and change or go after a year out and change (which is what I did).

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