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Harvard capping high marks; should we?

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poetryandwine · Yesterday 00:37

Harvard University academics have voted to cap the percentage of ‘A’ grades awarded in undergraduate course modules to 20% of enrolled students, plus or minus four students. There is no cap on other grades, including the grade A- ( ‘A minus’). This will be from Autumn 2027. The change will be assessed after three years.

About 70% voted in favour of the cap.

The grade of A at Harvard is supposed to be reserved for work of exceptional merit. The last time the percentage of A grades was as low as 20% was 2005. In 2024-25, about 60% of awarded module grades were A’s.

Students are not happy. There is a fundamental difference between what students want from assessment and what academics and employers want from assessment.

UK First Class degree awards have undergone a similar but less dramatic change over the last few decades, especially since tuition fees increased. We know employers don’t find undergraduate marks and degree classifications as useful as they used to, and why they now set such high bars.

Do MumsNetters think that capping the percentage of First Class Marks in each undergraduate course module, which can easily be achieved by rescaling marks similarly to what we already do, would be a good idea, or not?

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Muu9 · Today 19:07

poetryandwine · Today 00:23

No. We do standards based marking.

We are giving msny more high marks and high degree classifications than 15-20 years ago, and many many more if you go back further.

Have the standards decreased, or have the students gotten better, or something combination of the two?

Araminta1003 · Today 19:37

“We are moving the oral exams throughout as a result which will no doubt disadvantage ND and possibly international students but it's hard to know what to do.”

If the goal for all is long term employment, then oracy and help there is surely what is most required with gentle adjustments from an early age, for ND (and international students).
Isn’t that the whole point? They need to develop the skills required for further down the line.

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