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Nvq 2/3 or CACHE Diploma - Need help deciding which would be best for me.

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IllegallyBrunette · 07/06/2008 22:19

Ok, ultimate goal is to end up working with age 2-4's in a pre-school or nursery class within a school etc.

Currently i'm a sahm mum, single mum too, with 3 school age children.

The NVQ I could do part time, over 1 yr, but i'd have to find my own placement and they'd have to be willing to support me in the nvq (not financially). I was thinking of a playgroup for that as they always seem desperate for an extra pair of hands.
I couold then technically get a job after a year, but I would want to do my nvq 3 so would need to fit that in with a job afterwards.

If I did the CACHE Diploma, then thats 2 years full time, including 2 days a week in placement and several block placements throughout the years. The college would organise the placements, but they would cover all ages from birth to 8.
The CACHE one seems more academic too which appeals somewhat.

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Lazylou · 07/06/2008 22:46

I'm sure one of the conditions of an NVQ is that you actually get paid for working. I was volunteering as part of mine and was told by my training provider that I had to be paid to undertake it.

I did the Diploma and hated it. Loved the NVQ as got practical experience, got paid and got qualified. IME there was not too much academic difference between the two. In fact, sometimes I found the NVQ harder going than the diploma.

To get my placements for the NVQ, I wrote to various settings offering my services but saying that I wanted to be in paid employment. I was offered a job within a couple of days and started my NVQ shortly after. I attended training days once a month, which meant I had a month to do the work before the next lot. One day a month fitted in well with DD, going to college full time wasn't an option.

The new style of NVQ covers from birth to 16, not sure about the DCE.

With school aged children, I would look to getting a placement in a pre-school or playgroup. Are you looking to do Level 2 then Level 3 or can you do level 3 from the start?

IllegallyBrunette · 08/06/2008 13:39

I would have to start from nvq 2.

Can I ask how old you were when you did the nvq ? Only asking as I have previously rung nurserioes etc offering training positions and been told I am too old, as the training is only funded for under 25's.

Why did you not like the diploma ?? I thought you got sent on lots of different placements with that.

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Lazylou · 08/06/2008 14:42

I was under 25 when I started it so got funded under the Modern Apprenticeship Scheme that the government run. However, depending on who you go with, you can get something called European Social fund which, from what I can gather, funds people outside of the required age gap. I did mine with Smart Training and not long ago, they were offering free NVQ2 training to older students.

If you have previous qualifications, good exam results for example, you may not have to start from level 2. You should check because I went straight onto doing level 3, again it would probably depend on your training provider.

With regard to the diploma, I was a bit of a nightmare at going to college. I think it was an age thing tbh, but I didn't fancy sitting in a classroom for hours on end when I could go straight into a job, get paid and get on the job training. I found it was more beneficial to me to learn the theory and then actively observe it in practice with children that I knew and was familiar with. Plus some of the things you get taught on the diploma, such as planning etc, differ greatly between settings, so for me, actually working in a setting and learning things their way was better for me.

The one study day a month was the clincher, as I mentioned previously, I was rubbish at attending college, but with one day a month, I could concentrate on the work I needed to do both theory and practical and it meant it was flexible enough to fit in around DD. I did get sent on many placements doing the diploma, but I always hated being treated like a student, when all I wanted to do was learn the job. You tend to get the paint pots as a student!

My first placement was in a local authority nursery attached to a school and it was great, then I went into a Y1 class in primary school. I left before the nanny placement was due to start but I have since heard that many colleges don't offer the nanny placement anymore because of security issues. Don't know how true that is though, might be worth checking with the local college.

I have been qualified three years this year and have just finished the Foundation Degree which was funded through transformation fund. I know you can get TF in some areas if you are doing the level 3, but not sure about level 2. You get help with fees and bursaries for books and equipment.

Hope this helps and if you need any more advice/info, let me know and I'll see if I can help

IllegallyBrunette · 08/06/2008 17:54

Thanks Lou, thats a real help. I'd love to do the foundation degree one day too.

I think I will ring local college and see if I can have a chat with someone about both courses.

I probably would have to start at level 2, because I don't have very good gcse grades.

Your first placement in the local authority nursery attached to the school, is the exact job I would love to eventually do

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bluebell1 · 09/06/2008 21:06

Hi Lazylou sorry to hijack but im really struggling to find employment in a nursery as i have no experience.However i really need to be in paid employment.I just wondered if you have any tips as to how to word a letter lke you did asking for paid work.Im rubbish at letters.x

CarofromWton · 09/06/2008 21:18

My understanding of NVQ Teaching Assistants course is that you have to do a day in placement for NVQ2 - can be any age in school - primary or secondary (in fact I even used adult students for some of my evidence as I work in Adult Education). However, you don't have to be paid when working towards NVQ2. I believe that you do have to be employed and paid when working towards NVQ3. Also, I think colleges have different entry requirements - even though I have 3 A levels (admittedly from pre-historic times) I still had to do level 2 before level 3. Good luck!

juneybean · 17/06/2008 20:12

Have you tried speaking to your local college, I decided to do a child care qual 2 years ago and thought there was only the CACHE but I was actually placed onto a level 3 BTEC aimed at mature students. It's the combo of Award and Certificate with 12 units.

I attended college one day a week and went to placement 2 days a week and worked with children from birth up to 7 years old.

It is quite academic and very fulfilling considering I hadn't been to college in 6 years hehe

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