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Missed Out on Uni Place – Advice on Resits, Gap Year & Moving Forward

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RainWarning · 29/08/2025 08:39

Hi everyone, I’m hoping for some advice or perspective as we’re a bit lost at the moment.

My DS received his A-Level results, A, A, and B in History (A in their EPQ). Unfortunately, he missed his offer to study Law at a great university by one grade. Understandably, he’s devastated as this was a course and university he’d worked hard for.

He decided not to go through clearing for Law, and with his current grades, he wouldn't get into other universities like Warwick, Nottingham etc as they all need AAA. His original backup plan was to take a gap year and reapply for History, but with a B in History, that doesn’t seem viable for competitive courses either.

So now he’s taking a year out, but his confidence and motivation have taken a big knock, and we’re struggling to figure out the best next steps. Options we’ve considered:

Resitting History to try for an A and reapply for Law
Retake the LNAT - again no guarantee of sucess and don't find out your scores until after you've applied...
Taking a new A Level (though this would be as a private candidate, with little teaching support and we have no idea about the issue of predicted grades).
Looking into alternative courses he could access with his current grades.

One concern is the uncertainty and pressure of resits and whether universities would consider a new A-Level taken in one year. Another concern is whether it’s better to move forward with the grades he has and explore different subjects/courses that interest him, even if it's not Law.

We’re also trying to make the most of the gap year. He has been offered part-time work 2 days a week, remote by a relative but this won't get him out of the house. I'd like to encourage him to volunteer too but he’s feeling so low right now that it’s hard to help him see this year positively. Also if he wants Law he should probably be trying to get some Law related work experience.

If anyone has experience with resits, reapplying, or making the most of a gap year after disappointment, I’d really appreciate your insights. Has anyone's DC, or themselves, been in a similar situation and come out the other side?

Thank you in advance — any advice or ideas would be very welcome.

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flatchestedonce · 31/08/2025 12:20

Booneymil · 31/08/2025 12:19

Why does he need to get into a "top" university?

That is snobbery and is setting him back a year.

I know a woman who did a law degree in a fairly normal University. She has had a great career.

Employers don't care a lot of the time about which University you go to.

Read the thread. Its been discussed a lot already and I can't be arsed to repeat it for you.

@TizerorFizz explains it well. Read her posts.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 31/08/2025 12:21

flatchestedonce · 29/08/2025 10:27

Just having a look now, the following which have not been mentioned yet, have clearing places for History degrees and most say "accommodation available"

Exeter
Cardiff
Leeds
SOAS
Reading
Hull
Sussex
Queens Belfast

Edited

Agree with this DD's bf ( also 18) is going to Exeter for law with AAB.

Booneymil · 31/08/2025 12:21

flatchestedonce · 31/08/2025 12:20

Read the thread. Its been discussed a lot already and I can't be arsed to repeat it for you.

@TizerorFizz explains it well. Read her posts.

I did read the thread. My opinion is the same.

He arsed around , when he should have gone through clearing.

Waiting on a grade to be changed is no excuse. That happens to a lot of students.

Booneymil · 31/08/2025 12:22

Untailored · 29/08/2025 08:47

Without being rude, I think he’s being a bit of a snob about which university he goes to. There are many good universities that will take him with those grades, probably including some that state AAA initially. If he wants a career in law, he needs to crack on with it - if he gets a good degree and has all the interpersonal and other skills needed, will it really matter which university he went to?

I totay agree.

Snobbery is what is hurting him here

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I think my contributions were helpful, yes. If you'd read the thread you'd have seen how much actual information I provided instead of chastising the OP / her son and other posters.

Go sleep it off.

TheaBrandt1 · 31/08/2025 12:36

Definitely wouldn’t resit don’t know anyone that improved their grade doing that.

Lampzade · 31/08/2025 13:02

Booneymil · 31/08/2025 12:21

I did read the thread. My opinion is the same.

He arsed around , when he should have gone through clearing.

Waiting on a grade to be changed is no excuse. That happens to a lot of students.

I agree.
While he was there being ‘disappointed’ other students were taking the clearing places at decent universities .
Even if he retakes History there is not a guarantee that he will achieve the A grade he requires
Law is very competitive and the very successful students are those who are resilient , determined but also realistic

Harassedevictee · 31/08/2025 13:39

DarlingHoldMyHand · 29/08/2025 14:30

Just to add, I manage a team of 8 lawyers and I think only 2 of them actually studied Law at university, so the conversion route is definitely worth considering.

I also understand that some employers are offering new legal apprenticeships which involved IIRC 6 years of study and work to get to qualification, but I don't know enough about them tbh as they are so new and I don't know how people who qualify through that route will be perceived by employers.

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I would definitely look at apprenticeships. The employer pays for your degree (no debt) which you study part time, they give you one day a week study leave, you are paid a salary and gain experience as you are doing legal work whilst studying.

You end up with a degree but also loads of work experience and no debt. https://educationhub.blog.gov.uk/2023/07/law-apprenticeship-how-you-could-train-to-become-a-solicitor-for-free/

Law apprenticeship: how you could train to become a solicitor for free – The Education Hub

Did you know that you can qualify as a solicitor through an apprenticeship?   If you complete a solicitor apprenticeship, you’ll receive the same qualifications as someone who has taken a traditional route to becoming a lawyer, but you’ll avoid student

https://educationhub.blog.gov.uk/2023/07/law-apprenticeship-how-you-could-train-to-become-a-solicitor-for-free

Booneymil · 31/08/2025 16:15

flatchestedonce · 31/08/2025 12:27

I think my contributions were helpful, yes. If you'd read the thread you'd have seen how much actual information I provided instead of chastising the OP / her son and other posters.

Go sleep it off.

The hypocrisy!

You don't like that I chastised other posters, when you came on and chastised me.

Askingforafriendtoday · 31/08/2025 17:07

There are still places available with ringing round e. ' Law with European Legal Systems' is still available at UEA...application deadline is 24th Sept. Places available are still listed on the UCAS website...agree with others that resits are generally a demoralising hiding to nothing.
Norwich is a fine city! UEA has a lovely campus and a ot going for it

Cakeandusername · 31/08/2025 17:47

Solicitor apprenticeships are very rare for school leavers - 140 got them in 23/24 stats.
But with his grades it’s definitely a possibility. My colleague’s dc got one in her gap year - they wanted to see evidence of juggling work and study.

BananaPeels · 31/08/2025 18:07

Cakeandusername · 31/08/2025 17:47

Solicitor apprenticeships are very rare for school leavers - 140 got them in 23/24 stats.
But with his grades it’s definitely a possibility. My colleague’s dc got one in her gap year - they wanted to see evidence of juggling work and study.

Which is such as shame as actually, having done a law degree, it really was quite pointless. Everything I learnt could have been done as a professional qualification on top of work. It is the sort of qualification ripe for apprenticeship rather than degree just like accountancy.

flatchestedonce · 31/08/2025 18:09

Booneymil · 31/08/2025 16:15

The hypocrisy!

You don't like that I chastised other posters, when you came on and chastised me.

The OP came here for advice and help, not criticism.

Cakeandusername · 31/08/2025 18:14

@BananaPeels I’m s solicitor with a law degree and really enjoyed it. My dc is going into yr2 law and at all the open days there were some really interesting optional modules. If you are doing the degree apprenticeship you just do the core subjects.
The rules are changing from 2026 to stop employers using apprenticeship funding levy for level 7 apprenticeships for people over 22, whether that translates to more jobs for younger ones remains to be seen. They tend to be in low paid hard to recruit areas eg girl I know is criminal.

BananaPeels · 31/08/2025 18:22

Cakeandusername · 31/08/2025 18:14

@BananaPeels I’m s solicitor with a law degree and really enjoyed it. My dc is going into yr2 law and at all the open days there were some really interesting optional modules. If you are doing the degree apprenticeship you just do the core subjects.
The rules are changing from 2026 to stop employers using apprenticeship funding levy for level 7 apprenticeships for people over 22, whether that translates to more jobs for younger ones remains to be seen. They tend to be in low paid hard to recruit areas eg girl I know is criminal.

Yes but enjoying something isn’t relevant though. Yes I agree that a law degree gives you more variation with options but that could absolutely be built into a modern, robust vocational qualification rather than do a 3 year degree which doesn’t even get you qualified. In the year 2025, a 5/6 year apprenticeship (or whatever you want to call it) covering work and study, maybe doing the first year all study to cover key core studies would be a better route for the majority of students. The law degrees are better reserved for those who want to go down the more academic side of law. After the apprenticeship students could go on to complete a masters if they so please.

but then I’m not a fan of degrees. I don’t think they are flexible enough for the modern world and teach the skills needed. They are just a tick box for many students when they could be building professional experience and students can learn whilst being paid.

TizerorFizz · 31/08/2025 18:29

@BananaPeels Degrees are a gateway qualification though. They prove you have a brain - probably. Dc who convert to law do 1 year of law. They probably aren’t academic lawyers but few are. We cannot restrict law degrees to academics. However there are too many law degrees and that’s the problem. Many bright dc are not doing law degrees so they do the conversion. They might go into commercial and all sorts of law and it would because the best are quick learners.

BananaPeels · 31/08/2025 18:33

@TizerorFizzA-levels should prove you have a brain!
my view is based on my overwhelming view of the UK university system and how it isn’t fit for purpose. I personally would scrap and completely redo further education myself in a vein better suited to the modern world. But that’s just me.

but in the meantime I think a law conversion course is good way to go but it seems unfair to have to pay for an extra year’s study. That should be covered by the law firms.

TizerorFizz · 31/08/2025 18:38

@BananaPeels Very few professional jobs don’t require a degree these days. I don’t know what area of law you are but my DD has a MFL degree. It’s not used by her but young people at 18 would never be trained as barristers. They would simply be not earning anything for years so who pays for their learning? The self employed colleagues? Solicitors who do very basic work might get away with no prior high level learning but I think they would be doing very niche work from 18 and never get much choice of career. Law degree snd GDL allows this view of the legal professions to happen and maturity.

user1497535565 · 31/08/2025 18:58

The best lawyer I’ve ever met went to Lancaster. Another lawyer I know rightly says; it’s not where you start but where you end up. Never rule anything out. The GDL / conversion course is the best start to life in law.

TizerorFizz · 31/08/2025 21:46

@Cakeandusername Hmmm. I think there’s some doubt about these. The providers seem a bit ? Bound to be criminal!

Cakeandusername · 31/08/2025 22:20

These are the chambers involved
https://www.legalfutures.co.uk/compliance-and-regulation/barrister-apprenticeships-to-go-live-next-year

Missed Out on Uni Place – Advice on Resits, Gap Year & Moving Forward
TizerorFizz · 31/08/2025 23:16

@Cakeandusername The 5 Chambers mentioned - 1 is in London. Clerksroom is direct access and the others are NE, Yorkshire and Birmingham. Frankly it’s low to 0 impact. CPS makes more sense.