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Job prospects for English Lit degree

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sunglasses · 09/04/2025 08:02

DD in 2nd year of Eng Lit BA. She hasn’t secured a placement year in any of the ( very few) she applied for. There didn’t seem much to apply for and she got to the second stage of application for Disney, Universal and Warner Bros but obviously they have thousands of applicants so wasn’t pinning her hopes too much. None of her friends from her course or other unis she has friends at have found anything either . She is now looking for Sumner internships/ placements/ work experience. Can anyone recommend anything she should be looking at? She will be in London from June to end of September.

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sunglasses · 09/04/2025 12:13

clary · 09/04/2025 11:41

If she is interested in being a journalist then there are loads of ways she could get experience:

  • Write and publish a blog
  • Create films for socials of her stuff
  • Ditto for any orgs she is interested in
  • Ask local sports clubs if she can help with match reports or updates for local press (her hand will be snatched off if she has any knowledge or interest)
  • Review bands, plays, films and blog about it or send to local media

Basically it’s not about applying for an internship with the BBC; it’s about some hard graft to get your stuff out there. The above are just things that interest me; I am sure she will think of others. I’m the comms person for my sports club but working FT mean I just can’t do what I would like do I would LOVE it if a literate student was able to write weekly reports in the season. Best of luck to her

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Great advice. She has already been in touch with a small magazine to be interviewed about her music and she had offered to write for them. Writing reviews / films, plays bands etc would also be up her street. She knows nothing about Sport! 😁

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sunglasses · 09/04/2025 12:15

Changed18 · 09/04/2025 11:57

OP, I think the genuine interest has to come first – through trying things/reading/seeing what you're truly interested in. That will naturally lead to getting work experience/doing things off your own bat. I got into journalism through the student newspaper and, a little later, a postgraduate diploma. But I also had a student jobs at a publishing company/worked abroad as a TEFL teacher/worked in ad sales/tried lots of different things before I did that.

Taking the first step or two to get into an industry can be the hardest part – but someone whose parents live in London is well-placed because that should mean they can afford to take on the early career jobs that pay relatively little.

Thank you. I think this is where she is at and wanting to try different things as well as pursuing her interests.

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sunglasses · 09/04/2025 12:20

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 09/04/2025 11:59

I have some more thoughts about using connections and networking effectively.

It's not fair that being well connected helps you get into competitive career paths, but it is unfortunately the reality.

But connections don't have to be close connections to count.

What I would suggest is this. Talk to your DD about what she might be interested in. If there's something she would like to get some experience in but doesn't know how, think about whether you know anyone in that field or in a related field. If you don't, try one more degree of separation. Talk to people you know well and ask them if they know anyone in the relevant field. Once you've found a connection or potential connection in that field, ask them or your mutual friend whether it would be OK if your daughter contacts them. (She can also do this with her own adult connections if she knows them well enough, for example, if she's been friends with someone for a long time and knows their parents well, she might feel able to ask her friend's parents if they know anyone and if it would be OK to contact them.)

Once she's got the green light to contact someone, it should come directly from her. In my experience people are often willing to help a polite, motivated young person, but will probably find it irritating if it's their mum or dad trying to organise everything. Once the contact has been established, she should have some clear ideas about what she wants to get out of it. As a starting point, her first priority should be to ask some questions about what it is really like to work in that field. Not basic questions, but questions which show that she has already done some research herself and has a good idea about what the job involves but now has more specific questions which she can't find the answer to from Googling, or which relate more to that person's specific personal experience. She can then end the exchange by asking for advice about getting work experience in the field, which may lead to an offer of job shadowing or being put in touch with another contact who may be able to help.

My husband and I are in our late 30s. I've been in the same job for a long time and got my current job the conventional way, through a recruiter, after having got my first job through a graduate recruitment scheme and my second job through an open recruitment process with a large employer. So I have not yet changed jobs through networking. But I have recently received unsolicited approaches from other employers because my name has been given to them by someone I've previously worked with.

My husband, on the other hand, changed jobs a couple of years ago after his previous career came to the end of its natural lifespan. After months without success, we both started talking to anyone we could possibly think of in our entire extended network, and realised the power of networking. A chance conversation with one of the senior executives I work for led to her offering to put my husband (who she had never met) in touch with an acquaintance of hers who had previously been in the same field, and when my husband contacted him he was very happy to meet up and offer advice even though there were three degrees of separation between them.

It sounds silly but I wish I had figured out that this is how the world works when I was 21, not now I am nearing 40. I've done more than alright for myself (with my English degree!) but sometimes I wonder what other opportunities might have presented themselves if I'd been a bit more savvy about this sort of stuff at a young age.

Another silly but important thing. Your network grows and grows with time and it's important to remember who people are. I am terrible with names and faces and I have an awful habit of being introduced to someone and having a conversation with them and then instantly forgetting what their name is and what they do. Now every time I meet a new person in a professional context I spend at least 10 minutes looking them up on LinkedIn or elsewhere, familiarising myself with their name, face and job function, whether they're new to the organisation or a long standing employee I'm just meeting for the first time, what team they're in, where they sit within the organisational hierarchy, and anything else they've told me such as the fact that they have three children or they're an Arsenal fan. It's not stalking, it's essentially trying to cement my interaction with that person in my memory so that rather than forgetting who they are and having an awkward moment the next time we run in to each other, I can smile and ask how they are, confident that I'm not going to get their name wrong and that I might even be able to make small talk with them about something we've previously discussed. Essentially, you want to make your interactions with people meaningful, not only to avoid rudeness or embarrassment, but to make sure that the connections you are making are strong rather than weak. This is also something I wish I had learned at the beginning of my career rather than halfway through it. It's also something that applies equally to people who are or appear to be low down the food chain rather than at the top of it. Certainly in my profession, being rude to admin or support staff is the quickest way for a new grad to get a bad reputation. In the kind of organisation you want to work for, the person in charge knows everyone by name, from their senior management colleagues to the person who makes the tea, and people at the start of their careers would be wise to take note of that and learn from it.

Wow! Thank you for taking the time to reply so comprehensively. You are not the only one who has suggested networking to find a way in. We do know people who work in publishing and creative industries albeit not best friends but you are right we need to use what we have and put her in touch with people who can potentially help.

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FKAT · 09/04/2025 12:23

Some great advice. She really has to pursue experience what she is interested in and the jobs will come to her as she works out what skills she has and enjoys.

Local radio stations, local podcasters, theatres and venues, small production companies, advertising agencies. Just cast her net wide and see what lands. Also her careers office and professors should be helping her as well.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 09/04/2025 12:38

sunglasses · 09/04/2025 12:20

Wow! Thank you for taking the time to reply so comprehensively. You are not the only one who has suggested networking to find a way in. We do know people who work in publishing and creative industries albeit not best friends but you are right we need to use what we have and put her in touch with people who can potentially help.

You're welcome!

If you know people then that's great, they don't have to be close friends at all. They don't even have to be people you know, if someone you do know can put you in touch.

For every young probably female graduate who thinks, "I can't ask my friend Susie's dad for help, we've only met each other a few times!" there will be another one who gets in touch with Susie's dad saying, "We've never met before but I was talking to my Uncle Steve's best friend's neighbour's dog walker who told me that you're the person responsible for programming at Zigzag Radio, and I was wondering whether you would mind sparing a few minutes of your time to talk to me about how to get into working in radio."

Being super polite when asking for help is key, including sending a message to say thank you afterwards.

sunglasses · 09/04/2025 12:42

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 09/04/2025 12:38

You're welcome!

If you know people then that's great, they don't have to be close friends at all. They don't even have to be people you know, if someone you do know can put you in touch.

For every young probably female graduate who thinks, "I can't ask my friend Susie's dad for help, we've only met each other a few times!" there will be another one who gets in touch with Susie's dad saying, "We've never met before but I was talking to my Uncle Steve's best friend's neighbour's dog walker who told me that you're the person responsible for programming at Zigzag Radio, and I was wondering whether you would mind sparing a few minutes of your time to talk to me about how to get into working in radio."

Being super polite when asking for help is key, including sending a message to say thank you afterwards.

Thank you- you are right and it was something I always felt a bit guilty about using people for favours but of course others will have no shame!😁

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HelenGamble · 09/04/2025 12:48

I used to be someone who was a STEM purist and thought only quantitative subjects were worthwhile.

Obviously I've reconsidered a lot. One of DS's school classmates studied English Lit at Oxbridge and now she's actually doing really well in the civil service.

Pinhoe · 09/04/2025 13:15

If she’s interested in media maybe get a mentor via RISE or WFTV or another organisation that helps women get a foothold/progress in the industry. Also target one of the more ‘back room’ areas that are potentially less competitive? I worked in the media for many decades and was always happy to meet/advise friends or even vague acquaintances’ children. Also some people just contacted me via linked in and if they seemed keen/clued up I would speak to them - if they were promising it did sometimes lead to a job. What sometimes was annoying was when the person had done 0 research/had no clear idea what area they might be interested in or had very unrealistic expectations about starting out (eg expected to be commissioning dramas rather than thinking about an entry-level job that might eventually lead to that). Enthusiasm and passion and a demonstrable willingness to put in the ground work go a long way.

clary · 09/04/2025 13:30

Ok well it's a shame she is not keen on sport as that is obviously one area where there actually are roles, bc there is such a lot of interest (friend's lad works on SM in football).

But anyway – my point is not so much contacting a magazine and seeing if they wil let her do some writing, as actually writing stuff. Write things and send them to any media that may be relevant. Local papers are desperate for UGC as they have no staff so they will probably publish, even if online. If not then yes, publish on your blog. But she needs to do it. I mean if that's what she actually wants to do (which it may not be of course).

Theer are fewer and fewer jobs in the media these days – but there are roles. A reporter I knew when they were health corres on our local paper a couple of years ago was on the BBC website this week reporting on the Birmingham bin strikes.

The "do it" thing btw reminds me of a friend who writes novels for a living :O people often say to her "oooh I would like to be a writer" and her response is well then write! What's stopping you? In this day and age it is so so easy to be a published writer, whether that's as a reviewer, novelist, poet.

I meant to add before that my DD has a first in Eng lit and she very happily is working in a library. Not a very high-flying career but it really suits her.

Fmlgirl · 09/04/2025 14:13

I work in digital marketing and the people I hire have avast range of degrees from English lit to computing.

SunnySideUK77 · 09/04/2025 14:24

sunglasses · 09/04/2025 08:31

My DD already works pt in a hotel while at uni so definitely will be checking that out plus museums etc as suggested. She already has Penguin publishing on the list.She isn’t entirely sure what she wants to do yet but she also has an interest in music and is doing student radio which she loves. Any pointers for a way into radio??

Could try local hospital radio as a volunteer?

Newbie8918 · 09/04/2025 14:25

My degree is in English Lit and Cultural History. I work for a bank as a Product Owner which is a technical role. I found my degree to be an asset. My communications, stakeholder updates, general story telling (bidding for funding etc) has benefited. There are lots of jobs that I didn’t even know existed as a student and plenty of ‘creative’ roles in the banking industry. I fell into this by applying for a customer facing, summer job 25 years ago!

TicklishMintDuck · 09/04/2025 15:09

What about TEFL at a summer school? They have them in lots of locations and she might gain a recognised qualification at the same time.

PerpetualOptimist · 09/04/2025 16:13

@Newbie8918 makes an incredibly important point. There are many roles that incorporate one or more of: 'storyteller', 'teacher', 'broadcaster', 'persuader' etc outside the usual magnets for English grads; it is just that the job title or the sector might not appear to tick the box at first glance. So, being curious about and open to considering a wider range of sectors and roles is important.

Where STEM and social science grads can sometimes have an edge is they may have subject-related domain knowledge to add to the mix. This is why developing a personal focus or interest can help (eg the sport example cited above). It can be a point of differentiation and relevance.

whiteblossomtrees · 09/04/2025 17:16

What I would say is, if she wants to write, she should absolutely take advantage of all the opportunities university gives you. I studied English Lit, worked in publishing, and moved into screenwriting pretty late on in my working life. I kick myself now for not starting sooner!

You have to learn your craft, so if she wants to be a journalist, she should write on the student paper; if she wants to be a screenwriter go write plays for the uni drama society; if she's interested in presenting she should do some hospital or student radio.

For internships/graduate schemes there are quite a few out there across the media industry, but they are competitive so she'll need to stand out from the crowd - and experience that shows her passion and enthusiasm will be helpful. Equally with those first jobs after graduation - I'd say she should think carefully about the industry she wants to be in, but don't be disheartened if the perfect job doesn't land at her feet immediately. You may have to take a job in the less sexy rights department at a publisher before moving into editorial, say - but getting the foot in the door is what's important.

littlepammie70 · 09/04/2025 18:26

My daughter did her degree in London, the first year she got a two week internship at Woman magazine and the second year she got a months internship at BBC radio. I seem to remember there was quite a lengthy process to get the BBC placement but it helped when she graduated make contacts and she now works for the world service.

Biggles27 · 09/04/2025 19:07

My DD did Eng Lit (graduated 2023)

got an internship at end of 2nd year in Finance. Didn’t want to work in finance but the money was really good for 8 weeks work so did it

shocked everyone by loving it! Performed so well she got a job with them in city of London and now earns big money and is doing post grad quails in that area. Loves the job, loves the firm

she wanted to be a teacher and was being prepared by her lecturers to do a masters. She won prizes for her performance in literature!

what I’m trying to say is - let her apply for everything and see where it takes her

my dd was hell bent on teaching till she did the internship! Encourage her to think outside the box

Her bestie (also Eng Lit) went into media but spent a year volunteering with media companies doing unpaid work. Now is gainfully employed in that area

opportunities are out there but sometimes not where we expected them!

good luck to her

JillMW · 09/04/2025 23:01

The University careers departments are absolutely brilliant, they have to be because employability is a high marker of programme strength. In addition they often employ students at open days and other events. Your daughter needs to be proactive and use them, if she is not already doing so. Her academic tutor is another key help in terms of preparing for successful interviews

Snugs10 · 11/04/2025 08:27

sunglasses · 09/04/2025 11:08

That’s all brilliant advice thank you. We can support her to work unpaid to get more experience and we live in London.
She does perform as well as write and she does have a social media page. She isn’t doing as much writing and performing as she used to as degree/ working and radio are taking up a lot of time. I like the advice of looking at training/ webinars etc from an industry that appeals to her. Approaching radio stations for work experience is a good suggestion. Teaching is an option but I work in education myself and know how tough that can be ( as well as very rewarding if in the right school) and obviously can’t go this in the Summer. Looks like we need to use any contacts we have as a potential way in too! Thanks for all the advice.

What about teaching English to foreign students knew University students doing work in that area at their uni summer schools.

sunglasses · 11/04/2025 08:37

Thank you to everyone who has replied with excellent advice and suggestions. She already does student radio but there is a chance she could volunteer for hospital radio in her university town and at home. She has been asked to write for a magazine/ blog promoting the arts and should definitely do more stuff like this off her own back. In terms of internships and placements she is prepared to branch out and has applied for marketing roles too. There just doesn’t seem to be much advertised that she is qualified to apply to.She is up for working in any capacity this summer but she hadn’t thought of teaching well so will suggest that.

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sunglasses · 11/04/2025 08:40

JillMW · 09/04/2025 23:01

The University careers departments are absolutely brilliant, they have to be because employability is a high marker of programme strength. In addition they often employ students at open days and other events. Your daughter needs to be proactive and use them, if she is not already doing so. Her academic tutor is another key help in terms of preparing for successful interviews

She has been in regular contact with the careers department and they have advised on applications eg read her initial letters etc and advised on improvements. I think she probably could use them more to explore further opportunities so will definitely discuss this with her.

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/04/2025 08:49

sunglasses · 11/04/2025 08:37

Thank you to everyone who has replied with excellent advice and suggestions. She already does student radio but there is a chance she could volunteer for hospital radio in her university town and at home. She has been asked to write for a magazine/ blog promoting the arts and should definitely do more stuff like this off her own back. In terms of internships and placements she is prepared to branch out and has applied for marketing roles too. There just doesn’t seem to be much advertised that she is qualified to apply to.She is up for working in any capacity this summer but she hadn’t thought of teaching well so will suggest that.

If she's interested in radio, has she thought about trying to make podcasts?

sunglasses · 11/04/2025 08:51

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/04/2025 08:49

If she's interested in radio, has she thought about trying to make podcasts?

I am a massive fan of podcasts!! And am constantly banging on to her to listen to some. For some strange reason she just doesn’t but you are right -this is an area to be explored definitely.

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Delphigirl · 11/04/2025 08:54

sunglasses · 09/04/2025 09:39

Yes she is looking for work experience/ industry placement between 2nd and 3rd year or Summer schemes or just any relevant work experience. Perhaps that wasn’t clear so apologies. I was wondering if anyone had any specific companies to contact or websites etc to search on. There are opportunities for more technical/ engineering etc roles that particularly target those students studying specific degrees but obviously English Lit is less specific so just looking for any pointers or advice for something she hasn’t considered that would suit and English Lit student.

She should avoid schemes and make speculative applications to named people at smaller businesses (including local radio stations) with really good cover letters.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 11/04/2025 08:59

sunglasses · 11/04/2025 08:51

I am a massive fan of podcasts!! And am constantly banging on to her to listen to some. For some strange reason she just doesn’t but you are right -this is an area to be explored definitely.

Honestly I can't think of a better way to gain experience speaking in a radio-like environment, if the speaking part is what she is interested in rather than programming and so on.

People are making podcasts about all kinds of random things these days, and some of them sound very like radio. I think it helps if she can find a niche subject that she's passionate about and which nobody else has already made a wildly successful podcast about. (Which is probably even more difficult than thinking of an original name for your Twitter handle or blog.)

But for example, I am interested in walking the Camino de Santiago de Compostela, and there are a number of podcasts where the presenters are just interviewing people who have done it, talking about where the best hostels are and how to prevent blisters. I also love the Cormoran Strikes books by Robert Galbraith (aka JK Rowling) and there's a big podcast hosted by three women in the US where they basically read through all the books together and make 30 minute podcasts discussing each chapter. The books are huge and there's 7 of them and counting, so plenty of material for a podcast there.

The ideal would be if she can find an interesting subject that has plenty of potential for discussion, and a friend who is also interested in doing a podcast, because then you can have two presenters and any number of interviewees.

She could do one about university life and interview other students at her university about their courses, their societies, their experiences in halls, anything really. That might be of interest to prospective students.

One health warning though: she just needs to be careful she doesn't say anything on a podcast which could get her into trouble. It's like any social media really. Don't put anything on there which you wouldn't be happy for a future employer to see.

But it would be a great way of getting experience planning content, interviewing and talking on air.