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So if it comes to clearing, is there any prep I need to do ? Other than call around?

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Mycatisanevilgenius · 27/03/2025 11:25

I think you can look on the uni websites a couple of days before a level results day to see if they are advertising clearing spaces

So planning on writing a list of places dd would also be happy to go to, before results day, then if she doesn't get into her firm or insurance
Then start by calling the unis up in order ?

Ami I missing anything ?

She's being quite ambitious with her firm and insurance choice
So clearing maybe the way we end up going

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clary · 27/03/2025 13:05

My DD missed both her uni choices and I wish she had been better prepped so good on you – tho ideally as others say it would be DD doing this work.

We had a very long day. 8am she knew she hadn’t got in so this is when to be on the phone. We went into school to get her actual grades and then spent the whole day there as staff (and in fact DD’s pals) were really supportive – she was very down but there were a lot of peers on the phone too, some using bc missed grades, others bc wanted to change. I was there (and not the only parent) as DD is ND and I knew she would struggle if alone.

The best unis had clearing offers on the homepage of their websites which made it easier. She started off looking at ambitious unis but soon scaled it back. I recall her ringing one uni which had an offer of just one grade more than DD got but the answer was no – so be aware that the person on the phone is usually just staffing the call and has no or little discretion.

In the end we looked at Leicester which had grades on its homepage and the offer for DD’s subject was exactly her A level grades. She was offered the place and had to confirm by the following day. (She also had three other offers made from other unis). They also had a clearing offer holder day the following day which was great and guaranteed accommodation (tho not much choice tbf) – so some unis are geared up better for it IMHO.

Leicester was where she ended up (Eng lit) and in many ways it was perfect – no idea why it was not on her original list except it’s not RG so I think it does fly under the radar. But nothing wrong with it – nor with unis like NTU, UWE, Leeds Beckett, Edge Hill, Sheffield Hallam, if that’s the level you are looking at.

SheilaFentiman · 27/03/2025 13:20

I really don’t understand posters saying “she’s an adult, leave her to it”

For one, growing up is a process - you don’t know it all at “just turned” or “not quite” 18. And for two, don’t we all lean on our family and friend sometimes? I was 30 when I bought my first house and I still got my parents round for a second pair of eyes. Could I have managed without them? Yes. Did I feel more confident and happier because I had their help? Also yes!

SheilaFentiman · 27/03/2025 13:20

Accidentally duplicated post

LittleBigHead · 27/03/2025 13:35

Adding to the chorus of "She needs to do it" - because, if she's got to ring around on Clearing hotlines, she needs to do that, no-one else.

But it's really far too early to be worrying about this, and also - have some faith in your DD that she'll make her offers!!

SuperSue77 · 27/03/2025 13:37

SheilaFentiman · 27/03/2025 13:20

I really don’t understand posters saying “she’s an adult, leave her to it”

For one, growing up is a process - you don’t know it all at “just turned” or “not quite” 18. And for two, don’t we all lean on our family and friend sometimes? I was 30 when I bought my first house and I still got my parents round for a second pair of eyes. Could I have managed without them? Yes. Did I feel more confident and happier because I had their help? Also yes!

Completely agree - being an adult isn’t a switch. My daughter is summer born so she is almost a whole year younger than some of her peers. She was looking at work experience she wanted to do in year 12 but couldn’t apply as you needed to be 17+ but she wouldn’t turn 17 until after year 12 had finished!

@Mycatisanevilgenius ignore all those telling you to leave it to your DD, you keep supporting her. From what you’ve said you know what is or isn’t appropriate in terms of speaking on behalf of your DD and I think your plan to pull together info in case she needs to go through clearing is a good one. Let her concentrate on her revision/exams and if she does need it at least the info will be there ready to be deployed to help her keep calm and make the right decision at when would a very stressful time. Good luck!

SuperSue77 · 27/03/2025 13:40

clary · 27/03/2025 13:05

My DD missed both her uni choices and I wish she had been better prepped so good on you – tho ideally as others say it would be DD doing this work.

We had a very long day. 8am she knew she hadn’t got in so this is when to be on the phone. We went into school to get her actual grades and then spent the whole day there as staff (and in fact DD’s pals) were really supportive – she was very down but there were a lot of peers on the phone too, some using bc missed grades, others bc wanted to change. I was there (and not the only parent) as DD is ND and I knew she would struggle if alone.

The best unis had clearing offers on the homepage of their websites which made it easier. She started off looking at ambitious unis but soon scaled it back. I recall her ringing one uni which had an offer of just one grade more than DD got but the answer was no – so be aware that the person on the phone is usually just staffing the call and has no or little discretion.

In the end we looked at Leicester which had grades on its homepage and the offer for DD’s subject was exactly her A level grades. She was offered the place and had to confirm by the following day. (She also had three other offers made from other unis). They also had a clearing offer holder day the following day which was great and guaranteed accommodation (tho not much choice tbf) – so some unis are geared up better for it IMHO.

Leicester was where she ended up (Eng lit) and in many ways it was perfect – no idea why it was not on her original list except it’s not RG so I think it does fly under the radar. But nothing wrong with it – nor with unis like NTU, UWE, Leeds Beckett, Edge Hill, Sheffield Hallam, if that’s the level you are looking at.

This is great to hear. My DD wants to do medicine and I’d never have thought of Leicester, but having looked into it, it sounds like a fantastic uni, great campus, lovely students and caring staff. Hope you DD is happy there :-)

Treeleaf11 · 27/03/2025 13:42

Mycatisanevilgenius · 27/03/2025 11:51

Oh thank you, did he get in, somewhere he was happy with.
did he have to have a mini interview on the phone, or was it just like what are tour grades, OK you're in, type thing

Do you happen to know whatbtime the a level results come out ?
Is it 8am?

Had you written a list of where he wanted to try first in clearing ?

Hi
Yes he got in somewhere he was happy with, similar level of uni to his insurance. He loves it there and told me the other day he was glad he slipped a grade and didn't get his insurance.
He went into school at 8 am to get his results.
When he phoned up the uni he wanted in clearing he just told them which course he wanted, his ucas and clearing numbers his A level grades and subjects and his gcse grades for maths and english. He was transferred through to another department gave them the same info and they gave him a verbal offer. Which was quickly followed up with an email confirmation.
(He did phone another uni but he had the most comically incompetent person ever at the call centre so had to hang up).

grumpyoldeyeore · 27/03/2025 13:44

Unis may offer another course or a foundation year on same course if miss grades.

Mycatisanevilgenius · 27/03/2025 14:08

clary · 27/03/2025 13:05

My DD missed both her uni choices and I wish she had been better prepped so good on you – tho ideally as others say it would be DD doing this work.

We had a very long day. 8am she knew she hadn’t got in so this is when to be on the phone. We went into school to get her actual grades and then spent the whole day there as staff (and in fact DD’s pals) were really supportive – she was very down but there were a lot of peers on the phone too, some using bc missed grades, others bc wanted to change. I was there (and not the only parent) as DD is ND and I knew she would struggle if alone.

The best unis had clearing offers on the homepage of their websites which made it easier. She started off looking at ambitious unis but soon scaled it back. I recall her ringing one uni which had an offer of just one grade more than DD got but the answer was no – so be aware that the person on the phone is usually just staffing the call and has no or little discretion.

In the end we looked at Leicester which had grades on its homepage and the offer for DD’s subject was exactly her A level grades. She was offered the place and had to confirm by the following day. (She also had three other offers made from other unis). They also had a clearing offer holder day the following day which was great and guaranteed accommodation (tho not much choice tbf) – so some unis are geared up better for it IMHO.

Leicester was where she ended up (Eng lit) and in many ways it was perfect – no idea why it was not on her original list except it’s not RG so I think it does fly under the radar. But nothing wrong with it – nor with unis like NTU, UWE, Leeds Beckett, Edge Hill, Sheffield Hallam, if that’s the level you are looking at.

Thank you so much, so much useful experience shared with me
And thanks for the uni recommendations also as we've only looked into RG atm

Really helpful, thank you💐

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Mycatisanevilgenius · 27/03/2025 14:17

Treeleaf11 · 27/03/2025 13:42

Hi
Yes he got in somewhere he was happy with, similar level of uni to his insurance. He loves it there and told me the other day he was glad he slipped a grade and didn't get his insurance.
He went into school at 8 am to get his results.
When he phoned up the uni he wanted in clearing he just told them which course he wanted, his ucas and clearing numbers his A level grades and subjects and his gcse grades for maths and english. He was transferred through to another department gave them the same info and they gave him a verbal offer. Which was quickly followed up with an email confirmation.
(He did phone another uni but he had the most comically incompetent person ever at the call centre so had to hang up).

Thank you so much, feel much more organised now
I'm so glad it worked out,I know I'm a bit woooo, but I do think the universe bumps you along in the right direction when it comes to these things

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mumonthehill · 27/03/2025 14:32

Thanks for this post. I have been thinking about this too! It is not that I want to take over or make calls but I would like to be able to advise and support if there is panic with a bit of knowledge. It is useful to know we can look at uni websites and I will get ds to look at back ups over the summer so he is also prepared. None of them want to think they might have to do this really.

Treeleaf11 · 27/03/2025 15:19

mumonthehill · 27/03/2025 14:32

Thanks for this post. I have been thinking about this too! It is not that I want to take over or make calls but I would like to be able to advise and support if there is panic with a bit of knowledge. It is useful to know we can look at uni websites and I will get ds to look at back ups over the summer so he is also prepared. None of them want to think they might have to do this really.

I agree I think this is one situation where you can quietly research yourself and only if necessary provide guidance on results day. They will most likely get the results they need but there is too much at stake and it is time critical to let them flounder about cluelessly on results morning.

I would emphasise the need to start making the calls to Unis as soon as possible on results day as the more sought after places get snapped up quickly

CarpetKnees · 27/03/2025 16:12

She's working really hard, with study and working to save money,

Presumably in the 6 weeks between A level finishing and results day, she won't still be studying ? Even if she ups her hours in her paid work (great thing to do), she'll still have plenty of time to think about the 'what ifs'.

Re 'What time?' - It will depend on the school as to what time they allow pupils in to collect their results. However, e-mails saying "Congratulations, and welcome to X University" come out (from the University) early on the morning, so most tend to know if their place is confirmed before they get into school.

clary · 27/03/2025 16:51

Those asking about Leicester uni – @Mycatisanevilgenius and @SuperSue77 we were really impressed with it and I believe it is trying to join the RG tho I prefer it as a well-kept secret haha. Yes well worth a look for medicine.

The campus is nice and though most halls are a bit of a way away, they have a lovely village feel and also handy for a big big Asda. Lots of things happening in the halls village. It’s a nice city with a good deal going on as well and central so easy to get to from a lot of places (this is a factor IMHO).

DD has finished there now (her A level year was 2019 so she graduated in 2022) – her experience was badly hit by Covid and other factors and she ended up commuting for a year; her dept was so so supportive tho. She ended up <boasssssstt> getting a first with the top final year mark in her subject so we were really really proud of her after what was a pretty shaky start on A level results day.

Best of luck to all on this thread :)

WombatChocolate · 27/03/2025 19:21

OP, the posters saying ‘leave it to her’ don’t seem to realise how upsetting feeling to meet your offer is or the fact that best places available in Clearing are gone by 9.30/10 am. Kids without a plan and likely some parental support are unlikely to be the ones getting those best places.

The DC or parent who looks at Clearing early on results day of yr12 sees the grades being accepted that day. Screen shots or noting them down helps….because if the places are gone within a few hours, they will no longer show on websites. Although the same might not happen the next year, it does indicate where tends to go to Clearing and the kinds of grades which might be accepted. For example, this year Nottingham took CCC through Clearung in a good number of courses that had a standard offer of substantially higher.

The biggest potential pitfalls relate to not getting their actual A Level grades early enough. UCAS updates at 8am to show if you’re accepted by firm or ins but doesn’t show grades achieved. Everyone needs to know their actual grades in order to look at Clearing regardless of whether they’ve missed grades or are looking to trade up with better results. As I say, the top courses might have a tiny amount of places (if they have any) and it will be first come first served, so if a DC loiters in bed to dawdle into school or college for 9.30 or later, the best places will already be gone. Likewise if school email results out and they don’t check emails until 10am, the best will be gone. Of course places somewhere will probably be available, but if you’re wanting the best you get get for your grades the candidate has to be quick off the mark.

Students can ‘be left to sort it out’ but many won’t know to (nor parents) look at uni websites the afternoon and eve before to get a sense of availability starting to be posted. They should be noting the stuff down and phone numbers and the opening hours for the clearing line on Thurs. They should also have to hand their GCSE results and UCAS number and login and have read over their personal statement in case they have to talk to an admissions tutor who might refer to it. They need to hve a Plan B ready so even if they are disappointed. They know their action plan and are on the phones fast. And yes it should be them. But a helpful parent using another mobile too might help them get through faster or mean they can be calling 2 places.

Can those saying ‘leave them to it’ see how a disappointed child on results day could be thrown and paralysed sndvubsurecwgatvto do….not know what to do first, where to look and that trying to gather the info U mention on results day when upset and panicked could be awful and more than many will manage effectively? That they may well miss the best options that they could have had?

It isn’t about taking control or making the decisions for them. It’s about enabling and supporting them. As a parent I’d take the day off work. Sometimes kids get a Clearing offer from a uni they’ve never visited that the uni can only hold for 12-24 hrs. People leaving the car to go and visit. That’s the parents sorting that, not the DC who us devastated by their results.

One day f the most useful things is to ask your DC to ask school or college how and what time actual A level results will be available to them. If anywhere says later than 8.30, I as a parent would be contacting the school or college to speak to Head of Sixtg Form to point out how disadvantaged this makes those students. Really you want emails arriving at home or results in person at 8am.

Another tip - if at all possible go to school or college where subject teachers should be available. You can then get your actual marks and the grade boundaries so you know if you just missed a grade. You can ask advice and if you’ve missed a turn offer can put in for a script return or priority review if marking there and then. Those results can be back before the weekend and if grades have gone up, firm is more likely to take you for that year rather than saying course full and deferring is needed.

Too many unprepared students get their results, miss their offer and go home disappointed or never go to school or college. Later that day they wonder if a re-mark might be a good idea, but by then staff have gone home and in some places, no academic staff will be there until GCSE results day the following week.

Some places sit on Clearing applicants for a couple of days and it can drag into next week. People talk about going on holiday the day after results and wishing they hadn’t, needing to deal with unis for several days at the start of the following week.

So, quite simply, doing this well if disappointed ‘and left to sort yourself out because it’s your uni course’ might well not result in the best outcome. Every year on results day and in the week after, distraught parents are on MN trying to help distraught children but knowing little and the kids being paralysed about what to do. A bit of foresight and practical support before the day and practical and emotional support in the day it possibly days after can turn what can be a horrible experience into a smooth one, with a good outcome, or even if the case of those who out perform their offer, a place at an even better uni.

BubbaHorovitz · 27/03/2025 19:30

SheilaFentiman · 27/03/2025 13:20

I really don’t understand posters saying “she’s an adult, leave her to it”

For one, growing up is a process - you don’t know it all at “just turned” or “not quite” 18. And for two, don’t we all lean on our family and friend sometimes? I was 30 when I bought my first house and I still got my parents round for a second pair of eyes. Could I have managed without them? Yes. Did I feel more confident and happier because I had their help? Also yes!

I agree. It's also really tedious to see everyone jumping on the same critical bandwagon. OP did not ask if she should or should not be doing anything, she was asking about clearing itself. I suspect the critics actually know nothing and are just bored and fancy a scrap with someone.

The most important thing is that the DD gets the best place she can. So if it takes everyone in the fucking family to keep an eye on clearing, so be it.

SockFluffInTheBath · 27/03/2025 20:06

Clearing opens on 5th July so you will be able to see on the UCAS website which courses still have places. Additional places will become available when the results come out.

SockFluffInTheBath · 27/03/2025 20:09

The most important thing is that the DD gets the best place she can. So if it takes everyone in the fucking family to keep an eye on clearing, so be it.

Well quite. I’ll be covertly stalking clearing ahead of time this year. DD will either ace or flunk her exams, and if it’s the latter there will be theatrical depression. If I can shove a prepped list in front of her it will save us days of sighing and dying.

SheilaFentiman · 27/03/2025 20:11

SockFluffInTheBath · 27/03/2025 20:06

Clearing opens on 5th July so you will be able to see on the UCAS website which courses still have places. Additional places will become available when the results come out.

It’s not exactly “open” then. afaik - that’s when universities put up their preliminary lists of courses they expect will have spaces in clearing. So it’s a good place to start research, but it won’t be 100% accurate and you can’t apply then because you won’t have results

crazycrofter · 27/03/2025 20:16

Can you see grades required in clearing from 5th July or do you have to wait until results day? (My Ds has his grades already)

Nevertrustacop · 27/03/2025 20:18

DS was able to upgrade from Reading to Warwick. He had a lot of other offers too, but that was the one he accepted.

SockFluffInTheBath · 27/03/2025 20:19

SheilaFentiman · 27/03/2025 20:11

It’s not exactly “open” then. afaik - that’s when universities put up their preliminary lists of courses they expect will have spaces in clearing. So it’s a good place to start research, but it won’t be 100% accurate and you can’t apply then because you won’t have results

If you have an active application you can apply then. If you’re holding offers you can turn them in and get one new offer through clearing before results day.

SockFluffInTheBath · 27/03/2025 20:21

crazycrofter · 27/03/2025 20:16

Can you see grades required in clearing from 5th July or do you have to wait until results day? (My Ds has his grades already)

They’re likely to be the standard offers still at that point, but if DS has his grades already it would be worth getting in touch with the uni. My DS changed his course through ‘early’ clearing last year.

Cakeandusername · 27/03/2025 20:24

They may take even if dropped grades. For clearing we looked together before and had a list of possibles/phone numbers. Some are for international only so check they are eligible.
Her plan was check ucas first then open results email, both came at 8am. She got her firm so no clearing. I did book day off work.
Her friend did badly and with support from parents had an interview and got a place at a well ranked RG uni. She was distraught in morning but with support got sorted. Things move quickly so parents phoning next one and handing phone over when they come off hold can save time. Plus some unis put on open days for clearing.
I watched clearing yr12 to see type of offers available. Obviously it varies each year but gives an idea.

Buttons0522 · 27/03/2025 20:32

In the past few years we’ve seen Clearing change a fair bit at many universities. Some universities no longer have phone lines, they have online forms instead (Exeter was one if I recall correctly from last year). Many now have things like ‘clearing wait lists’ and ‘clearing sign ups’ on their websites in the weeks running up to results day so you can effectively be in a pool of interested clearing applicants on the day. Many have live chats online and also WhatsApp numbers to contact them on. I called KCL last year and was caller 8000 in a queue or something bonkers like that. Their phone message was directing people to use their online forms. So these days I would say there’s a bit more work needed in the run up than just writing down the clearing hotline and preparing to call as soon as lines open.

UCAS also now has clearing plus so if you end up in clearing it automatically shows you similar courses with places. No good if you’re changing your mind on course however.

I’ll also add to make sure you know the school’s process for results. As PP have mentioned you will know at 8am whether they have their firm/ins/are in Clearing but UCAS doesn’t state grades. Be clear as to whether you’re going in for them, waiting for an email, logging into a portal etc. School will have had the results for a day and they find out the UCAS confirmations an hour before students do, at 7am, so hopefully will be prepped to support from their end too.