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DD yr2 hasn't got module she wants and doesn't want back up module

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MyKingdomforaNewUsername · 14/08/2024 08:36

Students were warned it would be first come first served for second year modules. She submitted her choices within the hour but hasn't got the one she really wants. Is it worth her emailing tutors and trying to make a case to get onto her chosen module?

Also, the back up she's been given "transgender studies" is one she has no interest in. I've suggested she email the uni about it but she's afraid of being accused of "hate speech." God help us.

Any useful advice would be appreciated.

OP posts:
Seeline · 14/08/2024 10:02

Most humanity/Arts/Social Science degrees will have modules covering gender issues/feminism/sexuality etc in some way or another - usually not as clearly titled as the OPs module, but it will be there. Have a look on some of the uni websites - it's really not unusual.

SandyIrving · 14/08/2024 10:09

Sounds like a degree similar to my DDs. She has 4 options but is asked to give preference rating for all options so less chance of getting one you definitely don't want.

Are you sure about the scope? Devil is on the detail of modules. DDs is wider more like contemporary feminist issues. Title might be just to drum up numbers.

YellowAsteroid · 14/08/2024 10:13

If the modules are optional, then she needs to shop around for one with space in it. Sounds like no-one wants to do "transgender studies" so it has space (har har!) but there may be other modules which also have spaces.

We require our undergrads to list all modules on offer in the order of their preference, and try to give them at least 1 (out of 4 modules) that is their 1st or 2nd choice.

If it's a good degree, then any module she takes will be useful - although I'd draw the line at transgender studies because I'd be concerned that it would have a very narrow minded approach (of the #nodebate "transwomen are women" sort of thinking), and any dissent or asking questions might be marked down very stringly.

I can't think of any other topic in the humanities which would go this wy, but I would not trust a module called "Transgender Studies" to allow critical thinking, sadly ...

MyKingdomforaNewUsername · 14/08/2024 18:40

What is the degree subject? - not sure why you don't want to say.

Not sure why you want to know - it's not relevant.

Checked with DD - the course title is much longer winded then "Transgender Studies" but that's what it amounts to.

I've passed on the advice from here - thank you - it's up to her now.

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Combattingthemoaners · 17/08/2024 09:02

Doesn’t exist. Even in Sociology you wouldn’t have “transgender studies”. Stop trying to wind people up.

BlueyTuesdays · 17/08/2024 09:33

This sort of thing?

“TRANS/SCENDING GENDER - 2024/5
This module develops students' advanced knowledge and skills in relation to gender studies and trans studies more specifically.”

https://catalogue.surrey.ac.uk/2024-5/module/SOCM073

“Shakespeare, Queer, and Transgender Theory -
This module examines Shakespeare’s drama through queer and
transgender perspectives. It is aimed at students who want to deepen
their knowledge of Shakespeare’s plays and the means of interpreting
them, as well as students who want to delve into the diverse
approaches of queer and transgender theory”

https://www.york.ac.uk/students/studying/manage/programmes/module-catalogue/module/ENG00160M/2024-25

YellowAsteroid · 17/08/2024 12:58

Combattingthemoaners · 17/08/2024 09:02

Doesn’t exist. Even in Sociology you wouldn’t have “transgender studies”. Stop trying to wind people up.

I think @MyKingdomforaNewUsername probably wasn't given the full name of the module & is just giving a rough approximation of its title. And it is perfectly possible for a module to be called "Transgender Studies' in Sociology, or Art History, or History, or English Literature.

Seeline · 17/08/2024 13:50

Combattingthemoaners · 17/08/2024 09:02

Doesn’t exist. Even in Sociology you wouldn’t have “transgender studies”. Stop trying to wind people up.

Look at any arts/humanities/social science degree at any uni and there will be modules relating to feminism/gender/sexuality.
OP isn't trying to wind anyone up 🙄.

MyKingdomforaNewUsername · 17/08/2024 17:37

OP isn't trying to wind anyone up

Indeed! I wish posters would just report me if they think it's a wind up. Instead they're just confirming DD's concerns.

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Oblomov24 · 17/08/2024 17:50

Has she emailed yet?

ludocris · 17/08/2024 18:45

Lalalacrosse · 14/08/2024 09:20

I’d contact the uni, tell them I need a different module, say that in the current climate I am unwilling to do ‘transgender studies’ as the higher education sector has demonstrated that it is unable to engage with the topic in a reasoned manner, that the published legal cases thus far demonstrate that academics and students in the area are known to engage in improper and bullying behaviours that are contrary to free speech, and that I don’t feel safe. It’s not about the trans issues themselves, it’s the need to self censor, risk of downgrading just because you don’t align with the lecturers views, and risk of social ostracism campaigns if you accidentally say the wrong thing.

If they said I had to do it I’d engage the university complaints system until they gave up and found me something else. Which they will, as student complaints about free speech and safe learning environments are expensive to handle and a PR nightmare. No one wants to be the next OU.

She might not like what is offered instead, but it’ll be a darn sight safer.

Or she could just ask if there are any other modules with spare capacity.

No point in trying to make a case for the module she wanted - it'll be full. And they'll have some sort of system for fairly allocating spaces on popular modules.

LoremIpsumCici · 17/08/2024 18:48

This is really odd. Usually if Unis have this sort of first come, first serve shark frenzy for modules, they require students to specifically pick extra modules as backups. There wouldn’t be a situation where a student would get a module they had not picked either as a first choice or one of their backup choices.

ludocris · 17/08/2024 18:50

LoremIpsumCici · 17/08/2024 18:48

This is really odd. Usually if Unis have this sort of first come, first serve shark frenzy for modules, they require students to specifically pick extra modules as backups. There wouldn’t be a situation where a student would get a module they had not picked either as a first choice or one of their backup choices.

They could well do if there was no space on any of their chosen modules.

MujeresLibres · 17/08/2024 18:54

RampantIvy · 14/08/2024 08:43

What degree subject includes this topic?

Sociology or some sort of literature course might. OP, could she take a module from a different discipline perhaps? During my history degree, we were able to take a module from another arts or humanities department, I did a politics module and other students did e.g. a language.

bellocchild · 17/08/2024 19:01

She could just say 'it's boring' and carry on asking for something 'interesting' as an alternative...? Ok, it's childish but no-one wants an unengaged student on their course.

Fgfgfg · 18/08/2024 15:05

Combattingthemoaners · 17/08/2024 09:02

Doesn’t exist. Even in Sociology you wouldn’t have “transgender studies”. Stop trying to wind people up.

https://courses.warwick.ac.uk/modules/2024/SO260-15

SO260-15 Beyond the Binary: Trans-forming Gender - Module Catalogue

https://courses.warwick.ac.uk/modules/2024/SO260-15

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