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If my dc retakes his second year of uni can he still do a Masters?

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Popp1ngCandy · 05/08/2024 18:04

Just that really

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CompletelyLost24 · 05/08/2024 18:05

Depends if they cap any retakes at 40%.

If they do then, depending on his scores in his other modules he may struggle to achieve the 2:1 many masters courses ask for.

twopercent · 05/08/2024 18:05

Unlikely - as he may have difficulty getting a loan - but he should contact the loan company and ask

Seeline · 05/08/2024 18:09

twopercent · 05/08/2024 18:05

Unlikely - as he may have difficulty getting a loan - but he should contact the loan company and ask

Masters funding is separate from undergrad.

If it's an integrated masters, undergrad funding covers the length of the course plus a gift year so would still be possible as long as no further repeated years.

Kitkat1523 · 05/08/2024 18:13

do you mean can he as in if he doesn’t get at least a 2.1

or do you mean financially? …..he will just have to pay an extra years loaned and tuition for undergraduate degree….then go on to pay his masters fees….more expensive but certainly been done by many before him

LiterallyOnFire · 05/08/2024 18:14

PG loans are separate from UG loans aid that's what you mean? So student finance wouldn't be affected.

titchy · 05/08/2024 18:15

As long as he gets a 2:1 (possibly 2:2 depending on where he wants to go for Masters). But check if repeat year is capped. And please make sure that whatever led to him failing the first time round are addressed. The third year is harder than the second, and a Masters much harder again. He needs to be sure he passes. It might be too big an ask.

Popp1ngCandy · 05/08/2024 18:26

It’s financially. Do they still get loan funding?

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Shitlord · 05/08/2024 18:27

titchy · 05/08/2024 18:15

As long as he gets a 2:1 (possibly 2:2 depending on where he wants to go for Masters). But check if repeat year is capped. And please make sure that whatever led to him failing the first time round are addressed. The third year is harder than the second, and a Masters much harder again. He needs to be sure he passes. It might be too big an ask.

This is really good advice.

If he passes his undergrad happily, but doesn't quite make a 2:1, which I feel might be what you're asking, depending what he wants to do, post-grad entry requirements often have a lot more flexibility than undergrad. That's if you're willing to make a good case for yourself, maybe get some work experience.

I got a 2:2 due to serious illness (I had the opportunity for an uncapped retake but had had enough by then), and got offers for very competitive masters courses as a mature student after working a while.

Funding is separate and undergrad grades don't matter, it's the postgrad offer

Popp1ngCandy · 05/08/2024 18:29

If it took him 4 years to do a 3 year undergraduate course will he get funding for a Masters?

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Waterboatlass · 05/08/2024 18:31

Popp1ngCandy · 05/08/2024 18:29

If it took him 4 years to do a 3 year undergraduate course will he get funding for a Masters?

I don't think this will be an issue for postgraduate loans, no.

Kitkat1523 · 05/08/2024 18:33

Popp1ngCandy · 05/08/2024 18:29

If it took him 4 years to do a 3 year undergraduate course will he get funding for a Masters?

Yes…but would be paying for 4 years undergrad…then start back with loans for a masters same as everyone else

RampantIvy · 05/08/2024 18:34

Post graduate loans are separate. They only get a loan for fees though. There is no maintenance loan.

LIZS · 05/08/2024 18:35

Do his exams count towards his final grade or just to pass the year? Agree postgrad funding is separate.

Dearover · 06/08/2024 09:32

The current post grad loan is around £12k. This is for both fees and maintenance, unlike undergrad funding. Typical fees for a 1 year taught masters start at around £10.5k and go up to around £17k. There is very little available in the form of scholarships or bursaries available from universities to cover funding gaps. The post grad loan is to be repaid alongside undergrad loans, so wages get hit twice once you reach the repayment threshold.

Ftctvycdul · 06/08/2024 09:34

Yes, he would still be eligible for the funding.

sammyjoanne · 09/08/2024 20:40

If its an undergrad integrated masters degree BSC + MSC combined, then thats 5 years and i dont think student finance does that. If its a BSC undergrad for 4 years then a separate 1 years masters postgrad degree ive looked on here and cant see anything to say the bsc 4 years loan affects it https://www.gov.uk/masters-loan/eligibility . Some students do a 3 years + 1 year sandwich BSC, plus the masters year separate (as its classed as a postdoc) and ive not heard of any issues. facebook has a student finance page and ive asked questions on there before and got answers from them, so might be worth asking there, or directly.

Master's Loan

Get a postgraduate master's loan to help fund a full-time or part-time master's degree: find out if you're eligible and how much you can get.

https://www.gov.uk/masters-loan/eligibility

MarchingFrogs · 10/08/2024 10:30

Seeline · 05/08/2024 18:09

Masters funding is separate from undergrad.

If it's an integrated masters, undergrad funding covers the length of the course plus a gift year so would still be possible as long as no further repeated years.

Unfortunately, if it's an integrated master's, that in itself would disqualify him from getting the postgraduate master's loan (screenshot from the site linked to by @sammyjoanne above).

If it's not an integrated master's and the MSc / MA or whatever itself is a qualifying degree, then the main barrier to getting the pg master's loan would be not being able to get a place. As someone else pointed out, the OP's DS needs to know how the repeat year will be assessed, because a whole year capped at a third class pass level would put a lot of pressure on the final year to get up to a satisfactory final degree classification.

If my dc retakes his second year of uni can he still do a Masters?
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