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Uni of Buckingham?!

44 replies

Blinkingbonkers · 06/03/2024 23:30

Hi! Grateful for any advice. Dc17 is bright (school have suggested an Oxbridge application is worth a punt) but is confident in their career choice (for which they need a degree but no one will likely particularly care where it’s from). Dc wants to get the degree done asap so they can move on to career stage asap so is looking at 2 year degree options. Buckingham seems the best bet but I’m concerned how far down the league tables it is…I’m told this is because it’s so incredibly small. It comes out well in other recent analysis. Can anyone shed light/give some advice?! Thank you.

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CadyEastman · 07/03/2024 17:33

It’s ABB for medicine so again low tariff. MK hospital is nowhere near the uni. There’s a new teaching block by the main entrance. I could not imagine training anywhere worse

I can they have a campus in Crewe! Sorry to anyone actually from Crewe.

EwwSprouts · 07/03/2024 18:03

DN started one subject elsewhere and didn't gel. Went to Buckingham for a new subject and then degree in hand straight into Sandhurst.

TizerorFizz · 07/03/2024 19:35

Does your dc want the Army OP?

Buckingham has a campus in Crewe - OMG! So it does! @CadyEastman Crewe would not float my boat but at least it has a railway station to get out occasionally! Unlike Buckingham.

EwwSprouts · 07/03/2024 21:12

@TizerorFizz Do you look down on the forces as a career? I'm not going to get into it but DN original degree path was STEM at a university MN generally rates highly.

Blinkingbonkers · 07/03/2024 21:40

Yes - armed forces are what they’re aiming for @TizerorFizz - any advice?

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Revengeofthepangolins · 07/03/2024 21:44

Maybe consider a uni with a good OTC then?

TizerorFizz · 07/03/2024 23:04

None whatsoever. As your DS thinks, any degree will probably do. Would I expect a potential military leader to take the easy route, no. I would expect him to rise to the challenge. It’s a bit sad he thinks any old degree is good enough.

Blinkingbonkers · 08/03/2024 00:23

@TizerorFizz - it’s not that any old degree will do, it’s that they could achieve the degree in less time accruing less debt in the process. She is pragmatic & sensible knowing that the chosen career path will not pay megabucks and that anything that will reduce the cost implications is worth exploring. Far rather someone who is able to explore all options than one just settling for the traditional route😁!

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RogueFemale · 08/03/2024 00:37

If it's just a ticky box degree required, and money is an issue, then OU would seem to be a much better bet.

The only person I know who went to Buckingham was a cousin not noted for his academic talents.

CadyEastman · 08/03/2024 06:56

The only person I know who went to Buckingham was a cousin not noted for his academic talents

We know if a couple who have gone to study medicine. Neither had the grades required for other schools of medicine.

Revengeofthepangolins · 08/03/2024 08:07

And if she doesn't pass commissioning board? Or picks up an injury that prevents her joining? What then?

TizerorFizz · 08/03/2024 08:37

@Blinkingbonkers The course costs are the same. £27,750 (circa) so no saving there. Term lengths? There are 4 terms in a year with holidays between but you surely need the accommodation for 2 years and 1 term without breaks? They say allow £11,000 pa. So £53,000 when added to fees. How is this cheaper? It’s hugely inferior to many other unis and doesn’t cost less so poor value for money. DD needs some lessons in maths!

Needmoresleep · 08/03/2024 09:43

Tizer, when I did the calculation for Buckingham (and we did look at it when DD was still without a medical school offer in mid March) we factored in that she would start in January rather than the following September so would have an additional year of career earnings. Costs were higher but as an investment decision it made sense.

I assume "A poster above usually bats for LSE. Suddenly Buckingham is ok but not for her DS!" is aimed at me. I had thought this board was about sharing knowledge and experience, not about "batting" for any particular University. Ultimately any decision should be about fit. Buckingham may absolutely be the right fit for some students, in the same way as small liberal arts colleges are often the preferred choice in the US. Buckingham is probably not the choice of partying kids wanting "the student experience", but that is not necessarily a bad thing. Four terms a year means knuckling down and getting on with it. Yes, some will not be the most academic, but a strength should be having peers who are hard working and focussed. And as I suggested upthread, a smaller University can offer better pastoral support.

In the past I may have been guilty of "batting" for London. When DS was starting there was a poster, I think called BubblesBuddy, the one who used exclamation marks as if she was a young teen at boarding school writing her first love letter, who absolutely slammed Imperial. It turned out that her DD had been at fashion college in London. It was hard to work out the parallels between her experience and that of, say, a very bright and slightly nerdy, science mad 17 year old who had every chance of finding their people and their place in South Kensington. At that point there was lots about Oxbridge, but a chorus suggesting London was a dreadful place to study. It seemed mad to discourage potential students away from a world class education on pretty ill informed grounds. (I am pleased to see that there are now more posters confirming that their DC are enjoying their London student experience. Then again there are several posters saying the same about Buckingham.)

The sort of students that LSE, UCL or Imperial would suit, would probably not enjoy Buckingham. But the reverse also holds true. As for law, I have just looked up the Universities of three solicitors I have used recently (probate involving property) and they were Ulster, Aberystwyth, and Bournemouth. All were very good and I would use them again. (I have conveniently forgotten the names of the less good.) I can't see why a Buckingham law degree wouldn't sit equally well.

Copelia · 08/03/2024 09:52

I really wouldn't go for Buckingham is you have other choices. Rightly or wrongly, it's widely perceived as being for people who couldn't get into a "proper" university. It would be an outstandingly poor choice for someone with Oxbridge potential.

If you DC is keen to get cracking with working life, how about an degree apprenticeship or similar instead, or a sponsored degree?

Getting a second rate degree from Buckingham to avoid a year of uni seems a poor choice.

TizerorFizz · 08/03/2024 14:40

I think the “what if” matters too. What if a military career doesn’t happen? What if another career is needed. Living expenses as posted by the uni are quite high. However an accelerated degree loan meets their fees but it’s not much of a reason for choosing Buckingham.

Im sharing my knowledge about Buckingham @Needmoresleep Im originally from there. I’ve not just visited or met a couple of people who went there. Plus I’d bet a lot your DS didn’t want it! Why would anyone applying for LSE and Cambridge put down Buckingham? It makes no sense whatsoever. The DD here could apply for Cambridge.

The uni experience, or any experience of living as a student, is very limited in Buckingham. It runs around 30 degrees. It’s not like a college in the USA. The whole point about university is studying and growing up. Young people mature by joining societies, playing sport, organising events, getting together with like minded people, applying for internships, working, and spreading their wings. I know most young people in that area don’t spread their wings by staying there. It’s that simple. The uni has very short holidays. Internships are impossible. It’s always been somewhere to go if you cannot get anywhere else. ABB for medicine tells you all you want to know.

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2024 18:13

I'm not going to get involved in the rows but will offer my experience of a student who went to Buckingham.

She wanted to say at home and wanted to do a two year degree. Various very good reasons for this.

She has definitley been pushed and has worked her socks off.

She is also definitely not stupid - A star A A at A level. She would not have thrived at an Oxbridge type institution.

Needmoresleep · 08/03/2024 18:58

Tizer, you are not making sense. DD considered Buckingham. You may not be aware but every year lots of medical students do not get offered places. Given DD was not offered a place until very late in the cycle we looked at alternatives. We looked at Galway, Buckingham and joint degrees with Malaysia as alternatives along with a reapplication. Bucks looked fine. Degrees are/were given by the Leicester Medical School. No doubt some of her patients, especially if she stayed in Buckinghamshire, would have turned their noses up, but most people pay little heed to where their doctor studied. Just like me and the lawyers I used. I just want them to be competent and efficient.

But like Piggy said, no need for a row. Some DC have had good experiences. You (did you study there?) clearly did not. Op and her DD need to consider whether it feels right.

CadyEastman · 10/03/2024 07:40

Do the sports facilities live up to what she wants from Uni @Blinkingbonkers? I know that the campus in Crewe is very small. Which campus will she be at and has she thought about what she'll do if she doesn't get into Sandhurst or like many students before her, changes her mind?

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