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Anyone waiting for a Durham offer?

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Annabelnextdoor · 10/01/2024 15:16

DS has applied for a STEM at Durham. Heard nothing back yet. So thought I’d start a thread so we can share news of offers coming though?
Anyone have any experience as to when offers for STEM are normally made?. The thought of waiting until April seems too much!

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ColdButSunny · 24/01/2024 14:07

My DS is waiting for NatSci at Durham too.

Innisfree · 24/01/2024 14:29

lastdayatschool · 24/01/2024 13:48

Yes, thanks @MirandaWest

My DS was very much the same last year - made his application in November - school deadline - but living in NI had only been to 2 open days - Durham and Exeter, both of which he liked.

Chose Bristol, Edinburgh and Heriott Watt for other 3, but then come March/April stated he didn't want to go to either of Scottish ones, as too many from his school choosing them, and he didn't really know why he'd chosen them.

Luckily, he got offers from Exeter and Bristol, but left himself with lack of a realistic insurance offer (Bristol was AAA/A*AB, Exeter was AAA) so the lead up to results day was "Interesting" 😳

My learning from this - can't beat going to an open day to "make it real" for DC

@lastdayatschool which uni did your DS end up going to? My DS has an offer from Exeter, and really liked it when he went to the open day. I must say, the weather was amazing which really helped as it felt like being on holiday!

lastdayatschool · 24/01/2024 16:00

@Innisfree - yes, he's at Exeter and really enjoying it.

Doing A&F: contact hours are reasonable, but also getting tested/examined regularly, which means he's keeping up to speed with content, which is good.

Social life is good and reasonably priced, and likes the fact it's such a small city they can walk everywhere.

Got into Birks Grange halls - 4th choice - but has no issues with them. A little longer to walk to classes, but closer to town.

He did comment in the first couple of weeks about how you have to walk up a hill to get anywhere (we live near beach so not an issue here)

Innisfree · 24/01/2024 16:22

lastdayatschool · 24/01/2024 16:00

@Innisfree - yes, he's at Exeter and really enjoying it.

Doing A&F: contact hours are reasonable, but also getting tested/examined regularly, which means he's keeping up to speed with content, which is good.

Social life is good and reasonably priced, and likes the fact it's such a small city they can walk everywhere.

Got into Birks Grange halls - 4th choice - but has no issues with them. A little longer to walk to classes, but closer to town.

He did comment in the first couple of weeks about how you have to walk up a hill to get anywhere (we live near beach so not an issue here)

Great to hear!

Yes, we noticed the hills during open day. 😩

MerchSwyddEfrog · 24/01/2024 21:40

@ColdButSunny My ds is waiting for Nat Sci too! He’s not sure about Durham, but hasn’t been to any of his choices for open days. Which other University are you waiting for?

Revengeofthepangolins · 26/01/2024 10:42

DS2 just got an english offer from Durham, just for tracking purposes.

Debrathom · 28/01/2024 15:28

The waiting time definitely depends on the popularity of the course, I think. Ds1 applied to Durham for History in 2022 and finally got an offer in March (having submitted UCAS form in the previous November). DS2 has applied for Geoscience and only submitted UCAS on 19th Jan. He got an offer on 23rd! We were amazed.
DS1 since transferred from History to Natural Science (long story). He absolutely loves it. He is in Josephine Butler college. Both boys state comp educated. DS1’s friends are all from selective grammar or private sector but he says nobody cares what school you went to!

NYE2023 · 29/01/2024 00:11

my son is second year Durham . Two years ago Biosciences was one of the first courses to send out home / nonncontextual out - it was around mid Feb. My understanding is that they give full consideration after the UCAS submission deadline and each department choose whom to offer to ( rather than a central admissions team ) which is why they are so late usually .

no need to worry about accommodation -you get the opportunity to state your college preferences later . Good luck- it’s a lovely place to study .

Rollergirl11 · 29/01/2024 07:46

@NYE2023 i wonder if it’s changed since then as when we went to the admissions talk at last years open day it was stated that it IS a central admissions team and not the departments.

NYE2023 · 29/01/2024 08:21

@Rollergirl11 that’s interesting - and might mean that it’s a much faster process . I did wonder if they had done some things to speed things up because there seemed to be some fairly early offers around this time . Perhaps they realised that late decisions sometimes mean prospective students give up waiting & firm/insure elsewhere & also meant that many missed the Offer holders Day . It also might be that I got it wrong but certainly offers dripped in very slowly two years ago.

there is a parents of Durham uni FB welcomes prospective parents to ask Questions about courses/ colleges etc .

KittyMcKitty · 29/01/2024 10:55

Rollergirl11 · 29/01/2024 07:46

@NYE2023 i wonder if it’s changed since then as when we went to the admissions talk at last years open day it was stated that it IS a central admissions team and not the departments.

My dd applied last year and her department said they look at the applications and make the selections and then the offers were sent out by a centralised team.

The centralised aspects of Durham admissions are not known for their speed (see the time it takes to confirm college allocations each year) so this may be part of the problem.

I think there’s no benefit to trying to decide trends - on my dd’s course she applied Nov time and was offered in Jan. other people who applied the same sort of time were offered in March. (All home and non contextual). Similarly she has a friend doing law who was offered pre Christmas and others who waited till v late.

It’s great this year they have increased the number of offer holders days - last year there was one on Feb and two in March. Dd found this really useful in both confirming the course was her first choice and also visiting the colleges (we visited 3 Bailey colleges and Mary’s which is prob the max amount possible in the time).

dredlocks · 29/01/2024 11:09

@Revengeofthepangolins Congratulations on the Durham offer! May I ask when the application was submitted and whether it's home/non-contextual please? We're still waiting for a response for English and Biology (I have twins!) Thanks!

Revengeofthepangolins · 29/01/2024 12:56

dredlocks · 29/01/2024 11:09

@Revengeofthepangolins Congratulations on the Durham offer! May I ask when the application was submitted and whether it's home/non-contextual please? We're still waiting for a response for English and Biology (I have twins!) Thanks!

About oct 13, english, home, non contextual

NYE2023 · 29/01/2024 14:34

@dredlocks I know what that’s like - I have twins too so it was double the stress . My son at Durham is doing Biosciences & loving it - he is off to Belize in Sept for ecology ( though note there were plenty of other options for those for whom the tropical rainforest isn’t their thing !)

Rollergirl11 · 31/01/2024 07:56

So UCAS deadline today. Here’s hoping that now we have reached the equal consideration point and they know their quota of applications that they’ll start rolling out the offers! Or is that just wishful thinking?!

MerchSwyddEfrog · 31/01/2024 09:26

Let’s hope so @Rollergirl11 !

Gingercatlover · 31/01/2024 09:40

Waiting for History here, applied back in October.

Rollergirl11 · 31/01/2024 09:49

DD applied in October too. She has 3 friends who applied in December have offers through so she’s starting to feel disheartened. Different subjects but lower PG’s.

Does anyone know is English lit competitive at Durham? I’ve never been able to find a definitive answer but assume that it is.

Fridgeofallen · 31/01/2024 09:58

Well their 2021 stats say 57% were given an offer for English, plus another 4% an alternative course. Quite a few courses have an offer rate of 90% plus. But obviously some like Economics are a lot, lot less.

dredlocks · 31/01/2024 10:09

@Rollergirl11 Fingers Crossed! We're also feeling a little disheartened :-(

All the offers that have been received so far do we know if those students put Durham as their first choice or does the Uni not get to see that anyway?

Revengeofthepangolins · 31/01/2024 10:09

Rollergirl11 · 31/01/2024 09:49

DD applied in October too. She has 3 friends who applied in December have offers through so she’s starting to feel disheartened. Different subjects but lower PG’s.

Does anyone know is English lit competitive at Durham? I’ve never been able to find a definitive answer but assume that it is.

The general stats are a bit misleading as the offer rates vary hugely by type of applicant. In 2022 english WP offer rate was in the 80s while non contextual home offer rate was in the 20s. I have the actual stats at home - will post later

PossumintheHouse · 31/01/2024 10:20

Rollergirl11 · 31/01/2024 09:49

DD applied in October too. She has 3 friends who applied in December have offers through so she’s starting to feel disheartened. Different subjects but lower PG’s.

Does anyone know is English lit competitive at Durham? I’ve never been able to find a definitive answer but assume that it is.

It is. It’s not as competitive as Law, for example, but it’s up there.

Rollergirl11 · 31/01/2024 10:37

@dredlocks at this stage the uni is just one of five choices. They don’t know where else you have applied to but if you’ve applied by the October deadline they may assume that you have applied for Oxbridge.

WombatChocolate · 31/01/2024 10:53

I think it varies a lot by course and popularity. My DS knows someone at his school who applied for anthropology I think who applied late for his school (Nov) and had a Durham offer within 3 days, with pred grades of a mix of As and Bs. Not contextual,as far as we know. Meanwhile lots of others with all Astar predictions who applied in Sept/Oct (including those who had Oxbridge interviews and some who had offers) haven’t heard anything for their popular English/History type courses.

I think that often we don’t know who might have contextual flags or mitigating circumstances. UCAS has a real push on references flagging this stuff now and whilst we think we know all about the other kids we know, there can sometimes be stuff we don’t know about.

Last year, it did feel like they were working down some kind of ranking system. Those who had the early offers (some before the equal consideration deadline) were those with all A star predictions and all 9s at GCSE. Who knows about their PS, but you’d assume they were good as some were also Oxbridge applicants. Others did later get offers - probably in March - who had maybe 1 or 2 AStar predictions and the odd 8 in their GCSEs. But on other websites there were threads of people who had grades in hand that were all A stars and 9s at GCSE being rejected in April, so you just don’t know what’s going on. Are they ranking the applications and working through like that or are they randomly picking out, regardless of when they applied or what their grades are or what those if the others are and deciding if they are good applicants and making an offer? This last method means stellar applicants drawn out later might find the places have all gone and weaker candidates who were looked at earlier got the offer. But then, is the case that they want to fill the course with people with the very highest grades, or are they actually looking for a mix and to take some who meet the standard offer and no more, especially if they allow them to meet certain diversity measures - maybe not just contextual criteria, but perhaps to boost their standing on other metrics which might be used? It’s not transparent and maybe the goals themselves change through the application cycle as they get more if a feel for the number if applicants and strength if them and also start to see a picture emerge of how many that year are firming or returning them down.

Regardless, it’s bloody annoying if you applied in Oct, were a top notch applicant and have to wait a further 2 or 3 months after all your other offers (or rejections) have come in and Durham’s your top choice. You probably forgive them if you finally get an offer, but if you don’t, it’s incredibly annoying, especially if you’ve missed best accommodation at some of the other places. That said, Nottingham and York are in the wrong to do first-come, first-served accommodation. That isn’t Durham’s fault.

I do hope that they have enough staff so that now the equal consideration deadline is upon us, they can rattle through them. Hopefully they’ve provisionally done a lot and are just waiting to confirm the final applicant picture before wheeling out what they have provisionally done. But maybe they are sat on piles of applications and have 4 people working through them slowly. Who knows really.

Revengeofthepangolins · 31/01/2024 11:11

@Rollergirl11 Here are the stats, assuming I can add them. My earlier comment was hopefully a bit over-scary as I think 2022 was a weird year. As you can see, they massively dropped the number of offers, presumably to clear the overload from the previous couple of years of covid overload. Not, in my view, very fairly, they just took all those places out of the standard candidate pool, so more than half the home offers were contextual, at an 86% offer rate and the standard candidates only got a 20% offer rate. I cannot see how that is fair.

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