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Any student finance experts- Self funding a part time degree (mature student)- have I got this right?

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Welliehead · 08/06/2023 11:04

So I'd like to retrain as a counsellor. As I already have a degree I am not eligible for student finance for the BA that I'd like to do.

Just spoke to the university and the cost is 2300 per 30 credits. The course is a two year course part time (college one day a week) and 240 credits in total. So that's 18k plus for two years (it's a foundation degree). There's obviously no way I can afford that but I am just checking I've got that right as that cost makes it the same as a full time course!

Does that sound right to you (I mean obviously it must be but it seems expensive for a part time one day a week course - obviously you are expected to do work outside the day of the course)?

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lanthanum · 08/06/2023 16:34

Welliehead · 08/06/2023 14:52

There are a list of eligible degrees that they will fund you for second time around, mainly health care type degrees.

Psychology with Counselling with the OU is eligible for student loan even if you already have a degree.

Welliehead · 08/06/2023 17:15

lanthanum · 08/06/2023 16:34

Psychology with Counselling with the OU is eligible for student loan even if you already have a degree.

I did look at that. Its not accredited with bacp - that's what put me off. But will look again thanks

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Welliehead · 08/06/2023 17:18

lanthanum · 08/06/2023 16:34

Psychology with Counselling with the OU is eligible for student loan even if you already have a degree.

I don't see how it can be? The loan still comes from student finance England I think?!

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Welliehead · 08/06/2023 17:21

It says I may be eligible if I do it part time which will take 6 years. A great option but I'm not sure I want to take 6 years to do it.

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PandaOrLion · 08/06/2023 17:25

I’m a therapist and I would STRONGLY recommend you do an MSc/MA and train as a therapist not a counsellor. You can get student finance from y2 and can work privately from start of y4 usually. Look at Sherwood/Metanoia/Scarborough.

Welliehead · 08/06/2023 17:26

PandaOrLion · 08/06/2023 17:25

I’m a therapist and I would STRONGLY recommend you do an MSc/MA and train as a therapist not a counsellor. You can get student finance from y2 and can work privately from start of y4 usually. Look at Sherwood/Metanoia/Scarborough.

Thank you 🙏

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Welliehead · 08/06/2023 17:40

PandaOrLion · 08/06/2023 17:25

I’m a therapist and I would STRONGLY recommend you do an MSc/MA and train as a therapist not a counsellor. You can get student finance from y2 and can work privately from start of y4 usually. Look at Sherwood/Metanoia/Scarborough.

I think I might do the MA at a uni. It's a 1.5 hour drive away but it's supposed to be only 1.5 days a week in person. I was put off because it is full, so I'd have to join in 2024, but its 3 years, not 5. It is counselling and psychotherapy, not just counselling

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titchy · 08/06/2023 18:02

Why not an MSc Psychology conversion programme, accredited by BPS, then working as an assistant psychologist with clients with addiction issues?

Welliehead · 08/06/2023 18:07

titchy · 08/06/2023 18:02

Why not an MSc Psychology conversion programme, accredited by BPS, then working as an assistant psychologist with clients with addiction issues?

Omg. I didn't even know that was a thing. Thank you 🙏 😊

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benfoldsfivefan · 08/06/2023 22:50

PandaOrLion · 08/06/2023 17:25

I’m a therapist and I would STRONGLY recommend you do an MSc/MA and train as a therapist not a counsellor. You can get student finance from y2 and can work privately from start of y4 usually. Look at Sherwood/Metanoia/Scarborough.

You can get student finance from year 1.

OP, most Masters programs for Counselling allow you exit after two years with a Post Graduate Diploma, so maybe that's an option for you (does the uni 1.5 miles away allow this?). Much cheaper than doing a Masters.

Irritatedcashier · 08/06/2023 22:54

Stem subjects are eligible for student finance as a second degree. Maybe look into that?

Edmontine · 09/06/2023 06:34

@Welliehead - given the multiple routes into the profession suggested here, would it not be wise to speak to a careers advisor? Presumably there’s a careers department at your college?

It sounds as if you need some time to fully explore the field - a good careers advisor should be able to help you assess the best and most suitable route in line with your own skills and experience.

Welliehead · 09/06/2023 08:36

benfoldsfivefan · 08/06/2023 22:50

You can get student finance from year 1.

OP, most Masters programs for Counselling allow you exit after two years with a Post Graduate Diploma, so maybe that's an option for you (does the uni 1.5 miles away allow this?). Much cheaper than doing a Masters.

1.5 hours drive away!

No it doesn't do this.

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Welliehead · 09/06/2023 08:36

Irritatedcashier · 08/06/2023 22:54

Stem subjects are eligible for student finance as a second degree. Maybe look into that?

Yes a pure psychology Bsc might be. But not counselling or psychotherapy sadly.

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PandaOrLion · 09/06/2023 21:10

benfoldsfivefan · 08/06/2023 22:50

You can get student finance from year 1.

OP, most Masters programs for Counselling allow you exit after two years with a Post Graduate Diploma, so maybe that's an option for you (does the uni 1.5 miles away allow this?). Much cheaper than doing a Masters.

Metanoia and SPTI def don’t offer student finance from year one as it’s the predatory year. Are you saying Scarborough does? This is for the MSc in psychotherapy not one of the counselling courses.

benfoldsfivefan · 09/06/2023 21:59

PandaOrLion · 09/06/2023 21:10

Metanoia and SPTI def don’t offer student finance from year one as it’s the predatory year. Are you saying Scarborough does? This is for the MSc in psychotherapy not one of the counselling courses.

I don't know about Scarborough but assumed you can get finance from year 1 for all Masters courses if you've not done one before. You can get finance from year 1 at Metanoia: https://www.metanoia.ac.uk/programmes/psychotherapy/msc-in-integrative-psychotherapy/fees/

Also, are you inferring that a Masters in Psychotherapy is better than a Masters in Counselling?

Fees

PLEASE NOTE: THE FEES BELOW ARE IN RESPECT OF NEW STUDENTS JOINING METANOIA FROM 2020/21. INITIAL FEES Introductory Workshop - £225   ANNUAL DIPLOMA ONLY ROUTE FEES Diploma Year 1 - £4,300 Diploma Year 2 - £4,300 Diploma Year 3 - £4,300 Diploma Year...

https://www.metanoia.ac.uk/programmes/psychotherapy/msc-in-integrative-psychotherapy/fees

Welliehead · 09/06/2023 23:27

I've discovered there's a whole thing about counsellors v psychotherapy. It just makes it more confusing.

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