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Universities with lowest entry requirements

197 replies

Umbrellasaregood · 13/11/2022 10:03

Where can we start?
DS wants to go to Uni but is dyslexic and predicted Ds (or Cs at a big push). Looking at humanity/ social science type courses, possibly with a view to teach or social work.
Yes, it's vague but we would rather find a course that would accept him and compromise a bit on the subject than face rejections.

I never read anything about low entrance universities.
Everything is Oxbridge or Russell Group.

Hope this makes sense.

OP posts:
blueshoes · 13/11/2022 22:20

Gummibär · 13/11/2022 22:13

Uni is not just about getting a degree. It is learning to live independently and with other people from different walks of life.

But is it worth 3 or 3 years of spending £9K per year plus accommodation? That's a huge amount of money!!

Yes, it is. As many posters have said before, a student loan does not work like a loan and student debt is not a debt.

Apart from life skills, it also is the flowering of the mind. It teaches not just the how but the why. Explaining why things are the way they are, questioning the status quo and looking for answers.

I have worked with graduates and non-graduates. I would generally choose the former because they are easier to train having had that extra 'thinking' time.

KurriKawari · 13/11/2022 22:20

Haven't RTFT but as someone who worked in a university we had students with far more complex needs than dyslexia who were supported and catered for, so OP don't feel discouraged.

tobee · 13/11/2022 22:29

Plenty of high achieving at A level students struggle at good universities. And drop out. Plenty of students who find A level hard thrive when given the right support at degree level. And there's more options to choose to do the modules they enjoy and are good at.

My dyslexic ds did better than his non dyslexic sister at degree level, was properly supported and enjoyed specialising.

OldWivesTale · 13/11/2022 22:40

Health and social care at Staffs Uni need 3x Cs. But as PP says, this is what they advertise, they may well take less.

OldWivesTale · 13/11/2022 22:40

Umbrellasaregood · 13/11/2022 18:00

I think some people are missing the point HE wants to go to university and just because he can't get to Cambridge why shouldn't he try to find somewhere he can go?
There is more to life than money and the experience itself could be priceless.

Absolutely. I'd encourage him to go.

OldWivesTale · 13/11/2022 22:47

Gummibär · 13/11/2022 22:13

Uni is not just about getting a degree. It is learning to live independently and with other people from different walks of life.

But is it worth 3 or 3 years of spending £9K per year plus accommodation? That's a huge amount of money!!

Yes, it absolutely is. It is a priceless experience and every young person should be encouraged to go.

thing47 · 13/11/2022 22:52

ToInfinityAgain · 13/11/2022 20:15

But on the whole degrees from there are worth close to nothing, yet still cost tens of thousands of pounds.

Total and utter rubbish. Several of those mentioned offer some fantastic courses in specific areas – for example Coventry is a top university for physiotherapy; DeMontford is a very solid choice and has a good track record of post-degree employment in a number of areas; NTU is a very good mid-range university and has on occasion been ranked higher overall than the University of Nottingham, it's courses are well regarded; Oxford Brookes is brilliant for engineering courses geared towards working in the motorsport industry (arguably the best in the UK, along with the University of Manchester), again for very specific reasons which I won't bore everyone with here. Pockets of excellence can be found in numerous post-1992 universities.

Also land management leads specifically to estate agency and property development. I don't know anything about the Bournemouth course but Reading University and Kingston Poly (as was) have long been recognised as two of the best places to study the subject, despite not being terribly highly ranked overall.

OP, you need to big a bit deeper into specific courses and their content as the more sensible PPs have recommended.

Gummibär · 13/11/2022 22:53

As many posters have said before, a student loan does not work like a loan and student debt is not a debt.

It is most certainly a debt, but one that is borne by taxpayers if the student fails to earn enough to pay it back.

As a society we still pay for it.

Rummikub · 13/11/2022 22:58

If it’s social worker then the degree is regulated by www.socialworkengland.org.uk/education-training/students-and-graduates/

so it doesn’t matter where you go.

ToInfinityAgain · 13/11/2022 23:07

Piggywaspushed · 13/11/2022 21:17

Someone doing a degree in land management presumably has a very specific career in mind.

Or they are quite good at sports and know that it’s the easiest degree to not get kicked off while they enjoy rowing for three years.

Rummikub · 13/11/2022 23:18

Looks like a decent degree and career tbf

www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/subject-guide/land-and-property-management#Whatgraduatesearn

PinkFrogss · 13/11/2022 23:19

Gummibär · 13/11/2022 22:53

As many posters have said before, a student loan does not work like a loan and student debt is not a debt.

It is most certainly a debt, but one that is borne by taxpayers if the student fails to earn enough to pay it back.

As a society we still pay for it.

Take that up with the government who increased tuition loans then

blueshoes · 13/11/2022 23:20

Gummibär · 13/11/2022 22:53

As many posters have said before, a student loan does not work like a loan and student debt is not a debt.

It is most certainly a debt, but one that is borne by taxpayers if the student fails to earn enough to pay it back.

As a society we still pay for it.

Does society not gain from having a social worker or a teacher who wants to do the job. OP son just happens to be dyslexic but he would be a better teacher and social worker once he graduates because he has more understanding of these conditions.

I hope you are not one of those people who are penny wise and pound foolish or who know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

I was going to say that there is always the outside chance that a government would come into power (Labour?) at some point who decides to write off all student debt in the UK. Look at Biden in the US.

newfriend05 · 13/11/2022 23:41

Crazykatie · 13/11/2022 17:48

My GS is dyslexic tried to do a university course but could not keep up and dropped out, he is now training to be an engineer as an apprentice with a local firm, and will qualify on the job. That is the way to go for dyslexics, they often excel at hands on careers.

Who are you to say what people can and cannot do and "dyslexics" I know a number of people with dyslexic who have got good degrees and are now doing masters or have them .. How Appalling that you put glass ceiling on people

Funandgamestill · 13/11/2022 23:43

Look at London met . Had a terrible reputation years ago but are now very highly ranked for student satisfaction and have excellent support services . Low entry requirements and the foundation year is offered with support to switch to nhs bursary if going into social care role meaning he might save some money on fees too . I know several students that are thriving there with various learning differences and dyslexia is definitely no barrier to learning. Worth a look .

caroleanboneparte · 14/11/2022 05:33

I'd say to consider Scottish unis.

They are 4 years so more time for him to mature and learn social skills.

Also the 4 years is because the first year is a level lower than an English 1st year so easier.

Post 92 unis are Abertay, Napier, Robert Gordon's, Caledonian, UWS.

Some do social work.

Gummibär · 14/11/2022 06:38

I was going to say that there is always the outside chance that a government would come into power (Labour?) at some point who decides to write off all student debt in the UK.

That debt then unfortunately has to be paid back by all of us through higher taxes. Writing it off doesn't make it disappear!

Piggywaspushed · 14/11/2022 06:57

ToInfinityAgain · 13/11/2022 23:07

Or they are quite good at sports and know that it’s the easiest degree to not get kicked off while they enjoy rowing for three years.

You seem to see everything through an Oxbridge lens. Do you know anything about modern universities ? Or indeed Bournemouth. Or rowing.

Conservation and environmental management is a growing field (pun intended). Hugely popular and important career path now.

You really should drop the sneering.

Not everyone , as I said, can - or wants- to do a degree that leads to these top pay brackets.

Piggywaspushed · 14/11/2022 07:08

OK, quick search.

There is no degree in Land Management at Bournemouth. Cambridge so (as I suspect toiifinity know hence the rowing swipe, and then Harper Adams and RAU, specialised agricultural universities, Bangor, Newcastle and Reading - the degrees are aimed at rural, environmental and conservation types and people who are in farming. Only Cambridge has the rowing myth attached to it and that's outdated.)

I can only include toinfinity has an algorithm that picks a degree they disapprove of and combines it with a 'dropkick' uni. Am wondering what degree they did an where, and whether they have DCs at a relevant age....and what their broad educational knowledge is.
Fact checking helps.

You can do Golf Course Management at RG Birmingham , however.

OP, I think you need to get your DS some careers advice, get on to UCAS?Unifrog or similar and see what is out there, and look into some of the degrees suggested.

Out of interest, what kind of teaching might he be interested in, and why? Lots of the focus has been on social work on the thread.

Turmerictolly · 14/11/2022 07:08

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Annoyed200722 · 14/11/2022 07:16

Don't let his dyslexia be a reason for not going to university or following his longer term dreams. Our children's headteacher is very open about the fact she really struggled with dyslexia, and still finds areas of her job tricky, but she is most fabulous teacher and leader.

universities often offer far more support to dyslexic students than schools do. This can really turn their experience of learning round.

I have no personal experience, but have worked more broadly with dyslexic students at both the Universities of Sussex and Brighton. Both have lower entry grades than RG unis, and there is heat support, especially at Sussex.

Good luck to your son

Gummibär · 14/11/2022 07:17

Not everyone , as I said, can - or wants- to do a degree that leads to these top pay brackets.

But degrees cost a lot of money and you'd want that huge investment to be worthwhile.

EssexCat · 14/11/2022 07:23

ToInfinityAgain · 13/11/2022 20:15

But on the whole degrees from there are worth close to nothing, yet still cost tens of thousands of pounds.

Caveat is things have changed over the years but this is categorically wrong. Many many of my peers who had these ‘worthless’ degrees now have very good, well paid jobs that needed a degree as a starting point.

Both my husband and I recruit or or are involved in HR and degrees from ex polys most definitely count.

Rainbowcat99 · 14/11/2022 07:34

I suppose I'm looking for a reverse league table with low entry.

I wouldn't recommend this, just because he can get accepted doesn't mean they're good for him.
Some universities now are beginning to specialise in degree courses specifically aimed at people with dyslexia or have highly supportive practices.
I think possibly Chester and Sheffield?
I'd contact the British Dyslexia association and find a degree course that actually meets his needs rather than one that he can just about scrape into.
Good luck!

FlamingBells · 14/11/2022 07:43

Consider a higher degree apprenticeship which is a mix of vocational experience & a degree. This might be the ideal compromise for him, so he earns while studying. He'll also develop work skills which will put him ahead of his peers in the job market later on.