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GCSE English Grade 6 - good enough for RG?

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Tiggermum1 · 10/11/2022 16:45

My DD got a 6 in her English GCSE after being predicted an 8. We’ve had it re-marked but no change. Concerned that as it’s a core subject this may be a prob when applying to RG unis. Does anyone have a dc with a similar grade who still got into an RG? Am I worrying pointlessly? Should DD re-sit the exam? Thanks!

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Withholdingvitalinfo · 10/11/2022 16:56

Depends what she wants to study. If it’s eg Economics most places just want a 6. If it’s English, maybe not!

if you go online to the uni you’re interested in, select the degree, it will then tell you what the entry requirements are, including any minimum GCSE grades.

ChristmasCakeAndStilton · 10/11/2022 16:58

That's an "old currency" B isn't it?
Durham took me (a long time ago) with a C in English. If she wants to study English, it might be an issue. If she's going into STEMm, and gets the relevant grades ar Alevel, I can't see it being a stopped.

KittyMcKitty · 10/11/2022 17:05

My ds is studying Politics / Philosophy. I seem to remember that everywhere he applied (fairly standard RG choices) all specified a minimum of a 6 in English.

Interestingly my dd is applying for sociology and no where specified an English requirement (Durham said they didn’t look at GCSEs).

So I imagine a 6 is just fine but individual universities / courses will specify specific requirements.

Zib · 10/11/2022 17:05

I hope so. Ds got straight nines except that, and he's assuming that RG is still realistic.

pompomdaisy · 10/11/2022 17:08

Fine unless studying English at degree level probably.

Tiggermum1 · 10/11/2022 17:28

Thanks for the replies! @KittyMcKitty my DD possibly going for Sociology as well (in due course) so that’s heartening to hear about Durham.

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MsFogi · 10/11/2022 17:30

KittyMcKitty · 10/11/2022 17:05

My ds is studying Politics / Philosophy. I seem to remember that everywhere he applied (fairly standard RG choices) all specified a minimum of a 6 in English.

Interestingly my dd is applying for sociology and no where specified an English requirement (Durham said they didn’t look at GCSEs).

So I imagine a 6 is just fine but individual universities / courses will specify specific requirements.

Forgive my ignorance but if Durham doesn't look at GCSEs what do they look at when deciding to make offers (my dcs are not at the UCAS stage yet but it would be interesting to know)?

Gandalfsdaughter · 10/11/2022 17:33

I would imagine they look at A level scores only.

KittyMcKitty · 10/11/2022 17:34

MsFogi · 10/11/2022 17:30

Forgive my ignorance but if Durham doesn't look at GCSEs what do they look at when deciding to make offers (my dcs are not at the UCAS stage yet but it would be interesting to know)?

This was specifically sociology- the sociology admissions tutor said they didn’t take GCSEs into account / score on them (I’m assuming there’s some Uni wide minimum eg 5 at grade something or above?). She said they looked at PS and predicted grades (shame as dd has very high GCSEs 😂).

titchy · 10/11/2022 17:35

Very few places look at GCSES beyond the basic Maths and English at grade 4 and above. A 6 is perfectly fine anywhere.

ShepherdMoons · 10/11/2022 17:37

I don't think RG universities are too bothered about GCSE grades unless you are studying medicine. Oxbridge have their own screening process though so more hoops to jump through.

Watsername · 10/11/2022 17:50

DS was accepted into Durham this year (computer science) with a 6 in English language and a 5 in English Lit. He is dyslexic though, so I guess they might have taken that into account??? Honestly, I think they are more concerned with the predicted grades….(and PS, of course).

WombatChocolate · 10/11/2022 18:03

Top RG will sift students based on A Level predicted graves and also on GCSE profile. When they are vastly over subscribed, they need to soft somehow and far more have A Level predictions in excess of their requirement than there are places. Therefore, it’s daft to to think GCSEs play zero role in it. What they mean is there aren’t any SPECIFIC requirements beyond the universal basic English and Maths pass or any other specific course requirements.

So, they won’t say they require 8 grades at 7-9 or whatever, because that isn’t a set requirement and until applications are in, they won’t know exactly how over subscribed they are. At the point they are offering, they might well apply some basic GCSE level sift and root out those with less grades above a certain level or look at GCSEs in certain subjects. But these are not official requirements nor set in advance.

I’d say that if DD isn’t looking to do English, what is more likely to matter is overall GCSE profile and the grades in the relevant subjects. You can still be a very strong overall candidate with other top grades, especially if they are in the key subjects. A 6 amongst a string of 6s probably won’t be so favourable.

It’s a bit daft when people interpret what Unis say about GCSEs as ‘they don’t matter at all’. That clearly isn’t the case and GCSEs form a key part of the info the Uni has about your child and their potential. Yes A Level grades are looked at first, but they are only predictions and many won’t achieve them. The GCSE profile (not individual grades in individual irrelevant subjects) gives a good indication of who might be more likely to actually achieve their A Level predictions.

How else can they sift applications if all they have is far too many students all with stellar A Level predictions which meet or exceed the course requirement?

Of course there are also things like contextual offers to consider and broadening access policies which will be applied.

titchy · 10/11/2022 18:09

How else can they sift applications if all they have is far too many students all with stellar A Level predictions which meet or exceed the course requirement?

Unis need to make far more offers than places available (6 or 7 times isn't unusual) and there usually isn't aren't so many identical applications that a further sift is needed though!

WombatChocolate · 10/11/2022 18:35

This might be true for lots of courses, but the really competitive courses at the most sought after places do have more applicants than they can make offers to, even bearing in mind that they always need to over-offer as all who get an offer might not accept it or achieve their grades.

With the most sought after courses, not all students with the minimum predicted grades always find they receive an offer. They have been sifted out through some means.

Needlefish · 10/11/2022 18:59

My DD classmate got a place at Cambridge to study humanities subject with grade 6 English lit. Though her A level predictions were all A*s.

clary · 10/11/2022 21:50

Ds2 got 6 in Eng lit and 7 in Eng lang and had (achievable) offers from 3 RG unis. He's actually at Loughborough which is not RG of course but just as good if not better if you ask me. He preferred the course and facilities to Leeds or Newcastle. GCSEgrades not an issue.

Mate of his got a 6 in Eng lang and is at Cambridge so 🤷‍♀️

Obvs neither of these two are studying English. Dd, who did study English, got a 6 in maths and had four RG offers.

poetryandwine · 11/11/2022 10:40

Hi, OP -

I am a former RG admissios tutor, STEM subject. We would be fine with this 6, particularly as the overall GCSE profile is strong. As PPs have said, we mainly go by PGs and A Level subjects. The GCSE profile,
supra- and extracurriculars, sometimes the referee letter, very occasionally the PS - all of these things would probably matter more to most admissions tutors in my field. I can’t speak for Sociology but I would be very surprised if this were to be an issue.

Tiggermum1 · 11/11/2022 13:35

Thank you @poetryandwine that is very helpful. Onward!

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