Looking for advice re DD CV - put grades on or not?

[clary]

Morning all! Thought it was reasonable to post in H Ed.

DD has just graduated and is updating (or basically redoing) her CV. She has some great stuff to put on it thanks to a brilliant degree/dissertation and her actual part-time job plus a good bit of work exp/internship relating to what she may want to do. So it's not about her scratching about to fill a side of A4.

This is my question - does she put her exam results (I mean grades) on there? Her GCSEs were great, her A levels not so much, her degree is good too. Gonna get her to put the classification of her degree of course (I would still do that on my CV now) but grades in the other exams? If she doesn't put them, does it look like she scraped 4 Cs and a couple of Bs?

To clarify - she is not embarrassed about her A level grades (I mean they are BCC so not embarrassing). Just is it done to put grades in, or does she just say 10 GCSEs passed at C/5 (or maybe B/6, her lowest grades) and above, inc Eng and maths?

Any thoughts? Thanks oh wise ones.

Thank you @poetryandwine. DD got 73% for her dissertation. The students doing the integrated masters had to do a dissertation in year 3 and will have to do one for their masters as well.

The degree was very full on as they also had to do a 10 minute presentation of their dissertation and sit final exams, some of which were in person.

DD had friends studying chemical engineering, genetics, biotechnology and mechanical engineering, and they all had to do dissertations. I'm not sure whether her friend studying economics had to do one, but she had a lot of exams.

Thanks, @RampantIvy . That is an excellent mark. I think you wrote on another thread that your DD faced some significant challenges, so congratulations are definitely in order!

Our students can do independent study and write a project paper, but it is not at the credit level of a dissertation and on the three year degree programmes it is not required. I wish it was.

@clary I forgot to say that we have a good Careers Service, and they strongly advise that the CV of a new graduate should be one page long.

Thank you @poetryandwine. The dissertation accounted for 54% of the final year marks BTW.

It depends what you are applying for really. As a teacher, I have always had to produce all my certificates from GCSEs onwards. For other careers it might be ok to be more vague.

@poetryandwine that's interesting about keeping it to one page. She has done a CV in 11pt (minimum suggested size on her uni website) and it goes over one page, even with bullet points on hobbies. Issue is she has about nine different work ex elements as she has always had a part time job, has done some tutoring, had a module at uni which featured an internship (in a key area for her as well) and then also regular school work exp. Maybe she should roll those school ones into one paragraph? I can;t help thinking the work ex is more important than the hobbies?

I attended a presentation once as I was surprised at what my tutees were telling me. I was surprised at the emphasis on this point.

I agree the internship is important. Can the school experiences be grouped? Are all of them truly significant? I remember a joke at the presentation that no one really cares about their Duke of E Bronze after they graduate.

Actually many academics post their CVs on their web sites and, leaving aside their publication lists, some of the most effective senior CVs are still one page long:

Honours: 2021 Knight of the Garter
2020 Nobel Prize (Physics)
2012 Honorary Doctorate, Yale U
2003 Fellow, Royal Society
1998 Some prize or other

that being the full list - hugely effective IMO. The reticence is rhetorically effective. The principle can be applied at any age.

Brilliant thanks @poetryandwine (your advice service is much in demand today!) she has merged and simplified the detail on the longer-ago work exp (was in 2016 so not super relevant) and instead bigged up the internship and her time on wk exp in London on another related role. Now on one page yay.

Super, @clary. Glad to help.

As I had a moan about Britain yesterday on MN (mainly the state of our beloved NHS and the unreliability of my local water supply), I want to say that this type of understatement is one of the things I love about the country.