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stubiff · 07/03/2022 13:43

There are quite a threads asking for Unis which are the above, usually for a certain subject.

If you have replied to these threads what do you base your reply on?
Uni's links to industry.
Top firms employing from there.
Graduate recruiter in a certain field.
Subject ranking.
Perception.
History.
Something else?

Genuinely interested in what criteria people put on it.
Ultimately, all other things being equal, it probably comes down to employability maybe?

Thanks.

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Chisquared · 07/03/2022 17:51

I think this can be tricky to unpick as there are a number of league tables all with different weighting for different things (looking at you Guardian- some rankings look bonkers but they are heavily weighted towards student reported measures).
In general DS looked at overall rankings for subjects (some are very well known e.g. for Engineering, Maths - some not so well known or obvious for more niche courses).
Then he looked at course content, research, graduate employment
For some subjects (eg law) Graduate recruiters might be very important but less so for others. Some universities have more links to industry with placement years.
So it's worth thinking about what is important to each DC.
FWIW DC did not really think beyond rankings and course content - and has ended up very happy academically but not so happy with the town/university experience. So good to throw that in the mix too.

MarchingFrogs · 07/03/2022 18:20

All three of ours are very happy with the actual places in which they attended / attend university (Birmingham, Birmingham, Norwich) - the location and environment was something that they all took into consideration and since none chose a subject so niche that they would just have had to put up with living somewhere they hated for three years for the sake of studying it, it just seemed a sensible part of the process. Having said that, DS1 did a taught masters in 20/21 which apparently is only available at 2 universities and he had never set foot in either city, but fortunately, the options were Edinburgh or Bristol, which I have. (Bristol won out in the end, mainly because the online application process was marginally less Byzantine).

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2022 17:28

I am a teacher of many sixth formers in 3 subjects so base my replies on knowledge of past students who have studied my subjects, and also my dealings with some of the unis. I do also consider league tables , general standing and the ability and type of young person suited to different university locations or types.

I would also offer an opinion on IR because DS1 studies it, and also view on the university he attends and the unis two of his friends attended and dropped out from.

Anything I have no knowledge at all on (eg maths degrees , universities in NI, abroad, or London universities) I wouldn't wade in.

stubiff · 11/03/2022 15:34

Thanks for the replies.

@TizerorFizz Noticed you posted on the Mech Eng thread.
Assume you have some dealing with recruiters or unis (or something else), when you say 'Exeter isn’t an engineering powerhouse. Sheffield is.'?
I.e. where does your knowledge of 'well regarded' (or similar) come from, if you're willing to share please.
Just looking at CUG Engineering (and disciplines) rankings then could just about figure out that Sheffield could be better for Engineering than Exeter (even though Exe is 13= and Sheff 26 in the main list), but that is only one metric.
Thanks

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Piggywaspushed · 11/03/2022 16:04

Why are you asking, out of interest, OP?

RampantIvy · 12/03/2022 22:44

Assume you have some dealing with recruiters or unis (or something else), when you say 'Exeter isn’t an engineering powerhouse. Sheffield is.'?

Sheffield owns AMRC
DH (engineer) is a consultant and has done some work for Sheffield University. It really is highly regarded for engineering.

stubiff · 14/03/2022 13:35

@Piggywaspushed
Am asking as I like to look at data. I think a lot of what is spoken about (maybe as common knowledge, or well known) is not in data, but is from people's (and poss a lot of peoples') experiences.
Until a parent/child goes through the process then it is not well known or investigated.

Chisquared kind of implies that some subject rankings are well known (e.g. engineering). If they (only) mean CUG rankings or similar, then, yes, people can look, and may see some differences to overall rankings. But, am guessing that well known, here, means the knowledge one has gleaned going through the process or have some knowledge of the industry/recruiters/Unis/etc.
E.g. I am not aware of Engineering rankings (aside from just looking on CUG) and was not aware of Sheffield-AMRC, it is only on their website not course pages, for example.

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stubiff · 14/03/2022 13:44

@RampantIvy Thanks for that. Obviously your comment about your DH's industry experience is the kind of thing I am talking about.

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Piggywaspushed · 14/03/2022 13:48

Ah, but data can be qualitative as well as quantitative - both have their own problems!

stubiff · 14/03/2022 13:56

To clarify, not saying I just look only at data!

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RampantIvy · 14/03/2022 14:03

There are also degree apprenticeships at companies in AMRC. They are conferred by Sheffield University.

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