Liverpool Hope Uni

[Andi2020]

Hi does anyone have any knowledge what the Law course at Hope Uni is like
My daughter doing a mix of Alevel Btec so would start on foundation year.
Can 2 people share a studio to split the cost.
How do you get student Grant's

You apply for student loans through the student finance website, should be lots of info there.

It’s open day season at the minute so worth going along, chat to the staff, they will have talks on applying for finance, tours of the halls of residence, etc.

@CovidCorvid thanks we are not in UK so not easy to get to open days.

Where are you based then? Her loan entitlement will depend on your country - unless IoM, CI or RoI there's no entitlement to loans and she'd be charged international fees (£££££). If IoM (which I'm assuming) then you need to check your Government's website.

We are in ROI I know nothing about uni application any help appreciated

Check incase they are doing virtual open days? Does she have a particular reason for wanting that university? Has she looked at law courses at other places as well? I don’t know anything about Liverpool hope btw but just good to check a few out.

Why the Uk then? She won't be able to practise in Ireland. For loan information you'll need to look on your own Gov website. She may not get any maintenance loan for studying outside RoI though I think the reciprocal arrangement means she'll get a fee loan.

To be utterly blunt: you will need a RG university to stand the best change of practicing law. It’s hugely competitive. So what advantage is there in coming to the U.K.?

Does she want to be a solicitor or just be a paralegal or work in a legal department? Why law in the U.K.? She needs to aim much higher to stand a better chance of getting a training contract. We have 18,000 plus grad lawyers every year and 6,000 or less training contracts. So be careful about choices and ambition. The stats very much lean towards the top universities supplying the lions share of qualified legal professionals.

There is a less than 50% student satisfaction rating for that course. And as others have said it will be fantastically difficult to get any kind of job in law from that Uni.

@titchy

Why the Uk then? She won't be able to practise in Ireland. For loan information you'll need to look on your own Gov website. She may not get any maintenance loan for studying outside RoI though I think the reciprocal arrangement means she'll get a fee loan.

She will be able to practice in Ireland - it's very easy to convert from an English/Welsh qualification to an Irish one. The question remains why you'd want to do it though - why not stay in Ireland to study law? And I agree that Liverpool Hope probably would not be the best university to give you the best chances. Has she looked at Liverpool university instead?

Thanks everyone for advice.
She goes to school in Northern Ireland and has a mix of 1 Alevel Business and 2 Btecs
So a higher university out of her league. She intends working in Northern Ireland hopefully that makes it more clear.
She seen on criteria for Hope uni she can apply with GCSE

This is entry requirements for Law LLB at LHU - she does need A levels or equivalent so not sure where she’s getting that she can enter with just GCSE?

Or is it this course? (Just re-read your OP re foundation year)

www.hope.ac.uk/undergraduate/undergraduatecourses/llblaw/llb-law.html

I’m going to be blunt here: if she needs to do a foundation year to access a law degree then I’d be thinking whether she is academically capable. Law as an academic subject is hard, requires a lot of essays to be written, and is often very dry.

If she wants to pursue a career in the legal area have you considered apprenticeships / degree apprenticeships? Or working in the court system behind the scenes?

Sorry to be harsh but she's not going to be a barrister or solicitor with a law degree from Hope. A legal secretary, maybe. Encourage her to do a vocational course with a guaranteed pathway. Not a useless BA.

@Andi2020

Thanks everyone for advice. She goes to school in Northern Ireland and has a mix of 1 Alevel Business and 2 Btecs So a higher university out of her league. She intends working in Northern Ireland hopefully that makes it more clear. She seen on criteria for Hope uni she can apply with GCSE

So she lives in RoI but goes to school in NI - yikes!

@titchy is that yikes mean it's not possible to go to uni in uk. We live near NI just have to cross a bridge its nearest secondary

There is a virtual open day on 8 Dec, you can sign up for it via their website. I know a few students at Hope and they enjoy it but none of them study law or are from Ireland so I can't help you with that.

It makes things complicated -
she's done UK (well English/NI) qualifications but isn't a UK resident. You need to check your governments website to find out whether she can get a loan to study in the UK. Her school might be able to point her in the right direction as well if it is close to the border it may have had other RoI students wanting to study in the UK.

I do know she should be treated the same as UK students for fees purposes, but I'm not sure about maintenance loans.

What are her predicted grades?
Doing a mix of BTEC and A level doesn’t mean she can’t attend a higher tariff uni

Unfortunately it might well mean she’s not given a training contract though. She’s been poorly advised to do these qualifications to study a subject that’s academic and where employers look for academic high achievers. I would strongly consider Business as a degree. So many lawyers do have A levels such as maths, history, MFL, English etc and, although BTecs might get you in the course, you might be at the back of the queue for employment.