Article in the Telegraph. Which schools receive the most offers from RG universities.

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Very interesting article in today’s Telegraph. I think the article is alluding to the fact that state schools are doing well compared to private schools in terms of offers made.

Well what is an “expected” outcome and what should happen are two different things.

Expect.

I don’t disagree.

Remember uk students aren’t really in competition with overseas students (on overseas fees) for places…there is no cap on how many of those universities can take

Dorothea, are you sure? Cambridge and LSE as two examples, have chosen not to expand so have a finite number of places and a strong pool of applicants, both home and overseas.

There will be some flex now that EU students are no longer counted as "home" students. I assume however that Universities operate some rough informal quotas on some courses, which I suspect can swing both ways. So DS' Masters course may well have selected the best applicants regardless of nationality, which meant he was the sole Brit out of 40. Similarly DCs friends seemed to believe that it could be tougher for internationals to get on medicine degrees, and some Imperial courses than for UK students. Elsewhere Internationals may be preferred because they bring in higher fees.

So DS' Masters course may well have selected the best applicants regardless of nationality, which meant he was the sole Brit out of 40.

Stand-alone Masters tend to have a different profile to undergrad degrees - a lot of overseas students to their B at home and then come here for a masters. Of course that undoubtedly varies according to the specific course.

Errol I don't disagree. UK students were charged the same as Overseas students and the course was perceived as a good preparation for a PhD, so attracted qualified students from all over the world, the US, Latin America and Europe as much as Asia. A good example perhaps of what can happen when UK students are in competition with overseas students.

All courses, whether UG or Masters will attract different mixes of students, and unlike DorotheaDiamond's assertion, I am sure there are plenty of examples of there being effective competition. Not least I suspect that in STEM subjects private schools are seeing a reduction in Oxbridge offers because of competition from very bright overseas students, as much as competition from contextual applicants.