Qts?

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I was just curious to know is it possible for an early years practitioner who has a BA hons degree do a QTS without doing a PGCE?
I have been working in a reception class for the past 5 years which I finished my degree in the time too and was wondering would I be able to do a QTS? I did have a look at the teachers standards and I didnt necessarily have my own class but I do alot combined with my teacher. The only thing I haven't done properly for the whole class is planning but I have planned for my phonics group. If anyone has any factual answers it would be great go hear.

You can do a qts only route without the pgce. Salaried positions to train often do that.

I wouldn’t underestimate the jump from planning phonics to doing whole class planning and teaching. Lots of ex TAs expect it to be eat and it is very different.

Worth looking into TES straight to teaching route my friend did that, however I had to leave and go the PGCE route as it was all I could afford to pursue.
Best of luck with it.

Do you mean being awarded QTS through the Assessment Only route? There are also postgrad one year courses which give you QTS but not a PHCE, but I don't think that is what you are asking about.
The basic entry criteria for the assessment only route, beyond the degree and maths, English and Science GCSEs, is that the candidate must have been teaching as an unqualified teacher for at least two years and have taught in at least two schools.
You say you have been working as a TA, so you would not be considered for the qualification, I'm afraid.
Might an apprenticeship be an approach you would consider, perhaps?

PGCE, not PHCE. Sorry - fat fingers.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-assessment-only-route-to-qts/assessment-only-route-to-qts-criteria-and-supporting-advice

Yeah I have had a look I am just eager to now do my pgce. I hold a degree in early years and have worked as an EYP for 5 years and a room leader before that. I guess I may have to do a pgce. I was wondering is it even possible to so a pgce via distant learning at an appointed school. Meaning could I do my pgce whilst still working at my school and doing the necessary work placement there? And also once you finish your pgce does that mean you are now an unqualified teacher? So let's say someone does a distant learner pgce. Once they complete would they be considered as a teacher that is not qualified and could then seek the right school or course to so the QTS? I feel like I'm blabbing alot and repeating but I guess it's super late right now and I have work tomorrow

No, once you finish your PGCE you are an NQT. There are then a whole load of new hoops to jump through before you’re signed off as a fully qualified teacher.

I would look for local schools direct training courses. They will give you placement schools and you’ll get qts at the end. They usually want people with lots of school experience.

I'm speaking about close to 20 years ago now but I went straight from degree to a qts year. Got paid 13k.
It was mostly being used as cheap labour to cover difficult classes, but getting thrown in the deep end, I learnt alot!
Developed skills and knowledge as an nqt and beyond.
Dont agree with pp, yes there are many lsa's who would struggle with adapting to teaching, but there are also many exceedingly talented ones who should definitely move into teaching. Go for it!

Just to clarify, it was pgce OR qts.
I went the qts route

I’m surprised by that @Notashandyta

Usually it is PGCE with QTS or QTS alone.

I really do want to go for it and I work in an amazing school who are outstanding in all areas. But gosh it seems like it's very confusing to get onto teaching even with a degree. I thought it was a pretty straightforward process, you do your ba hons then do pgce and then nqt and that's it. But I guess I have those options in mind. I really dont want to leave the school I am at.

Maybe talk to the head about whether they might consider taking you on as a salaried trainee based at your school. A friend’s school did that for her. She was there for her main placements they offered her a job when she was awarded QTS.

@PurpleDaisies

Yes, qts alone. I took a non teaching degree, then a year of qts, which mainly involved teaching with some training sessions to qualify

I meant it was unusual to see a pgce without QTS, not QTS alone which is common. Maybe that wasn’t what you meant?

Yes, crossed wires I think.

I dont have a pgce.

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