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sahila · 07/10/2020 14:34

My daughter want to join high school with fine Art expertises. I look through all secondary schools but non of them has expertise in fine Art . I think there should be high schools that only have speciality in particular subject. It is unbelievable that most of people can't get there dream job/ position because of so many in necessary subject that later in life it doesn't help them

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ClerkMaxwell · 07/10/2020 15:00

Do you live near an art school? My local one (GSA) runs weekend and holiday courses for school students. No specialist art schools in my area but some schools art departments stronger than others so worth shopping around or switching to a college course post-16.

titchy · 07/10/2020 17:33

It is unbelievable that most of people can't get there dream job/ position because of so many in necessary subject that later in life it doesn't help them

And yet the UK manages to produce a huge number of talented artists, dancers, scientists etc without making them decide their career path at 10...

MarchingFrogs · 08/10/2020 12:10

See whether Lily Allen would be interested in funding a school which doesn't put any emphasis on too many in necessary subjects, perhaps? She said once that she couldnt see the point of studying trigonometry, didn't she? Although I believe some boring person did point out that her technical crew sort of depend upon it for setting up safe stage rigging and all that.

HasaDigaEebowai · 08/10/2020 12:11

hmm

MarchingFrogs · 08/10/2020 12:43

hmm, OP?

Or hmm, that sad bitch dissing the divine Ms A?

HasaDigaEebowai · 08/10/2020 12:45

hmm OP

MarchingFrogs · 08/10/2020 14:12
Smile
Ginfordinner · 08/10/2020 18:32

My daughter went to a bog standard (but rather good) comprehensive school that happened to have some very good art teachers. She achieved an A at GCSE at the age of 14, but went down the science route for A levels. I saw examples of the A level artwork by students at her school and they were astonishingly good.

It is unbelievable that most of people can't get there dream job/ position because of so many in necessary subject that later in life it doesn't help them

Seriously?
A rounded education is the best grounding for everyone. Is English not your first language or did you not receive a rounded education?

sahila · 08/10/2020 18:39

@ClerkMaxwell

Do you live near an art school? My local one (GSA) runs weekend and holiday courses for school students. No specialist art schools in my area but some schools art departments stronger than others so worth shopping around or switching to a college course post-16.
Yes after research and shopping around I post this. It is true that most of school has session of Art which include fine art, painting , Sculpture etc just one session per week. I agree with you she can do Art post 16 . My point we can achieve more if we used direct routes rather then maze path rout
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MarchingFrogs · 08/10/2020 19:00

Out of interest, @sahila, which in necessary subjects would you drop from the KS3 / 4 / 5 curriculum in these specialist Fune Art schools? English Language? Maths? Any or all of the sciences (probably)?

MarchingFrogs · 08/10/2020 19:02

Fine Art, even. But creative spelling probably wouldn't matter if one could drop English at 11 anyway.

sahila · 08/10/2020 19:13

@Ginfordinner

My daughter went to a bog standard (but rather good) comprehensive school that happened to have some very good art teachers. She achieved an A at GCSE at the age of 14, but went down the science route for A levels. I saw examples of the A level artwork by students at her school and they were astonishingly good.

It is unbelievable that most of people can't get there dream job/ position because of so many in necessary subject that later in life it doesn't help them

Seriously?
A rounded education is the best grounding for everyone. Is English not your first language or did you not receive a rounded education?

No need to ask, you can spot it from unnecessary/ in necessary which most of educated and well manner already notice it ,but no one sees my point . Yes I did receive round education. It is almost in every country but it is not helpful. Maybe it work with some kids but children are not the same and get low grades which later can not pursue their career in different direction . Of course there should be an opportunity for student who want change later in life. But I genuinely think it is so pressure on our kids to learn subject that they are not have interest
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ClerkMaxwell · 08/10/2020 19:18

One session a week is low. I'm in Scotland and my DC had two sessions per week in the early years of secondary. However if they chose Art as an option this increased to 5/6 sessions per week. My DCs school was strong in art (year my DS2 left 6 went to art schools) so you can spend your entire S6 year on art subjects if you wish (although "fine art" would only be a third of this time, design, textiles/fashion and photography would be the rest).

titchy · 08/10/2020 19:18

Why do you think it a good idea that a child should decide their talents and career at the age of 10?!!!

If your child is a talented artist at 10, they'll still be talented having got some basic education and GCSEs then gone to specialise in Art age 16. No one at all is held back that way.

(If you'd said instrument playing I'd agree they need to start early and be identified as talented at 10, but there are specialist music schools and JCs. There's just no need with Art.)

(I assume OP doesn't have English as a first language hence the poor grammar.)

Ginfordinner · 08/10/2020 20:09

Sorry I was so rude.

How about looking at extra curricular art lessons at KS3? If your daughter wants to pursue art she can take it at GCSE and A level. I can assure you that if she does so it will consume a lot of time.

it is wrong to wish to deprive your child of a rounded education until they need to select options for GCSE.

I admit that I don't use trigonometry in my daily life, but it meant that I could explain it to my DD when she was doing it at school. My A level French meant that I could help her conjugate verbs. My geography O level meant that I could help her revise tectonic plates.

I think you underestimate how important a rounded education is. Even if your DD wants to go down the art route she still needs a basic education. Jobs in art are very competitive and not very abundant right now, so she will need a back up option.

goodbyestranger · 08/10/2020 20:18

What a seriously unpleasant bunch of women there are here, picking on the grammar.

Fifthtimelucky · 09/10/2020 13:15

OP: have a look at the Saturday art and design clubs run by the Saturday Club Trust. I don't think they start until 13, but it would be worth taking a look to see if you can find one anywhere near you. They are free to attend I believe.

Xenia · 09/10/2020 13:35

I thinkn you are used to a different culture abroad. The UK produces many good artists. However a broad education even if you are a fee payer of boarding school fees at a top school is usually regarded as better for the person as they can make connections (to sell their art), learn about all kinds of things about which they then could paint and generally be well educated. It is only rarely in the UK that we have paid for specialist schools like Chetham's for music and some of the dance schools you pay for.

If you can afford it some of the best most academic fee paying day schools in big cities often have very good art teachers (although I remember a funny story about boys at boarding school Harrow finding photographs of their extremely attractive lady art teacher on the internet without much on... however I am sure that did not detract from the boys' enthusiasm for fine art.

sahila · 09/10/2020 13:42

@Xenia

I thinkn you are used to a different culture abroad. The UK produces many good artists. However a broad education even if you are a fee payer of boarding school fees at a top school is usually regarded as better for the person as they can make connections (to sell their art), learn about all kinds of things about which they then could paint and generally be well educated. It is only rarely in the UK that we have paid for specialist schools like Chetham's for music and some of the dance schools you pay for.

If you can afford it some of the best most academic fee paying day schools in big cities often have very good art teachers (although I remember a funny story about boys at boarding school Harrow finding photographs of their extremely attractive lady art teacher on the internet without much on... however I am sure that did not detract from the boys' enthusiasm for fine art.

Thank you very much it is not a bad idea, I will think about it
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lanthanum · 10/10/2020 17:46

There is this one:
www.hampsteadfinearts.com/

I suspect it's about the only one, though.

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