Student Loan next term

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My DS has been told that his first year is over now but that he will still have to pay fees as teaching will be delivered online - even though it’s a practical course. Does anyone know if there will be reduced fees to reflect the reduced teaching/learning they are getting?

Do you work in HE op?

If labour had won GE university would have returned to be publicly funded!

Sigh. And places would have been restricted. Like they are in Scotland.

You can either have an HE sector free to expand to meet demand, but funded by a graduate tax, or you can have it free, but only available to 15% (the richest 15% frankly). Lots of people would choose the latter, and that's fine. But be aware that's the reality of that choice.

Don't use the current CV expenditure as a measure of what we can afford btw - this is a one-off package of borrowing a third of our GDP - and the consequences of that one-off will be absolutely dire for the next few years. A recession like no other. Doing that year on year just isn't possible. Unless you want to pay £5 £20 £50 for a loaf of bread.

OP if you're genuinely interested in this sort of thing may I suggest teaching yourself some Economics, then you can argue on a more secure footing!

I'm a mature student. My maintenance loan for next term is already committed to part of the household budget juggling we did to make sure that me going back to study could work economically.

How do other countries manage to have free university system if it wouldn't work here? Public universities in Germany are tuition-fee free aren't they?

Or Finland, Denmark, Norway... Or what about the countries where the fees are super low compared to ours like France or Austria and Greece?

The majority of European students live at home, and there are next to maintenance payments. So the overall cost is much cheaper.

Added to that fewer students graduate - France for example has a policy of letting anyone do the first year (although the quality of that provision tends to be poor), but then having a mass cull and admitting far fewer into the second year.

As long as they are culling those who won't get a good/usable degree classification, then I think culling after first year is a good thing

They might live at home, that doesn't explain why they don't have to pay tuition fees?

Living at home means there is no maintenance to give to students. Maintenance in England costs almost as much as fees. European governments simply don't have that cost so can afford far more subsidy in their HE system.

My DD's final term comprised 1 day and 2 hours per week, total about 6 hours contact time. Not good value.

You do know that there is so much more to a university education than 'contact' time?