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STILL no news from LSE or UCL (Politics&IR) Anyone else in similar limbo?

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ellanwood · 17/03/2020 16:09

DS can't plan student finance or any of the other things school are chivvying them to do now. It seems so late to be waiting when he applied in October!

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titchy · 02/04/2020 12:18

Because up till mid March everything was normal. Then unis had to shut, and A levels were cancelled throwing the entire sector into disarray. Followed very quickly by a ban for English HEIs on changing offers already made and the likelihood of a cap in entrants.

UCL have huge amounts of borrowing, will inevitably lose bucketloads of international students and frankly can not afford the risk of the fine from over recruiting home/EU students. Hence the blanket rejections. And no, it's not fair on those individuals as they would probably have got an offer if things were normal. But they are far from normal.

TooDamnSarky · 02/04/2020 12:23

Over recruiting is a massive concern at the moment as unis have no idea how grades will be calculated so we have no clue what proportion of our offers will be met by students. If everyone is given their predicted grades we would massively over recruit as this never happens Ina normal year.

TooDamnSarky · 02/04/2020 12:24

And the senior uni staff who would be making strategic decisions on how to respond are currently working silly hours trying to get new assessments in place for our current final year students. My guess is that many unis have simply put offers on hold to buy some time.

TheDrsDocMartens · 02/04/2020 12:55

Dd2 gave up on one uni, course only small but very niche. They always interview too. Every phone call since Feb they said ‘it’s been pushed back’ She applied in November and deleted them last week.

shockthemonkey · 02/04/2020 12:56

Thanks Titchy, yes I had made the link with the A-levels announcement and the cap warnings.

And I guess it's better to have no offer rather than having an offer withdrawn. That would really sting.

I can take it for the three very-good students but am totally devastated for the outstanding one as, weird as it seems, he preferred UCL to Imperial (having visited them both last year).

TheTeenageYears · 02/04/2020 13:38

Wasn't there a two week freeze put on all applications or was that just to stop existing offers being changed to unconditional offers

puptent · 02/04/2020 13:58

DS had an offer from UCL yesterday - but he did his A levels last year (and applied this year) so this is an unconditional based on actual results. (We are UK based).

Olympicfan · 08/04/2020 18:00

Any news this week @ellanwood?

ellanwood · 08/04/2020 19:33

@Olympicfan - thank you for asking. But no. Still no news, except a friend of his who'd applied for a different course was rejected and according to the school, he's the best Economics student they've ever had. Also afaik, the only news on TSR is a stream of rejections, so I am holding out no hope on his behalf right now. (But I prefer Kings anyway.)

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Maladicta · 15/04/2020 19:09

Any news @ellanwood? Ds finally got an offer from Warwick, AAA as he'd expected and he's firmed it. A real sense of relief here although he's not sure he'll get the A in French.

ellanwood · 15/04/2020 22:33

@Maladicta - hi, congratulations to your DS on his Warwick offer. That's a great place to have lined up.

Still no news from LSE. It's become really difficult for him. They took a week's Easter holiday. Fair enough. But given they should have made all offers by end of March, it's just kept the delay going. They go back tomorrow, apparently so might send some messages out then or Friday. But recently all the people who've heard have been rejected. So I'm not convinced the news will be worth the wait.

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Maladicta · 15/04/2020 22:50

LSE is going to be a tricky one this year. I read that a typical year has 2/3 overseas students and with only 1/7 saying they’ll take up their offered places this Autumn, it’s in a very difficult position.
I hope he hears soon, one way or another, so he can get on with things.

Needmoresleep · 16/04/2020 08:42

Ellanwood, I am rooting for your DS. He must be soooo close to the cut off. Remember the cut off will be based on a paper application only, and there will be plenty who will be either using consultants to help prepare those applications (evidence from this board suggests it is the norm, say, for French applicants) or have strong school support. Or both.

And don't be too influenced by the "best economics student they ever had". Economics can be weird. For several years DS' academic school had very strong economics applicants rejected by Cambridge. All went on to genuinely shine at LSE. (My best guess from observation was that Cambridge interview, and lean towards the more confident banker type, whilst for economics LSE prefers studious mathematicians.) Another observation is that performance at school can be very different to performance at University. Doing well is about fit, motivation and adaptation. There will be plenty of former school high flyers who then struggle to adapt, whilst Universities have plenty of experience in judging who is right for their environment. (And obviously, given the high numbers, there is a certain amount of randomness in the process, so it will not be unusual for students who were rejected at UG level to be accepted for Masters, indeed gaining a place on the Cambridge economics Masters is often seen as easier than gaining a place on the BSc, something I assume that holds true of other degrees and other places.)

I remember from a alumni talk given by the then Director of the LSE about how careful they were to avoid over recruiting. They had miscalculated when student fees were raised and this left them with real capacity problems in what is a small and cramped University. (The talk conveniently happened whilst my son was still hanging hanging on waiting for a response. Be reassured, I stuck up my hand and explained how unacceptable it was to put 17 years olds though this level of stress. I was backed up by another alum/parent whose DC had experienced the same the year before. Though it seems that nothing has changed.)

I do hope he gets in.

Olympicfan · 16/04/2020 11:09

Still rooting for @ellanwood's DS here too.

Bowbridge · 22/04/2020 19:58

Any news this week? @ellanwood

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