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Starting uni amid no deal Brexit?

14 replies

RosaLappen · 04/08/2019 06:09

Anyone else worried about this?
Starting uni is hard enough but if there is chaos and possibly food shortages?

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GnomeDePlume · 04/08/2019 06:26

DD is about to go into second year. My only concern would be if her course contained say a year in an EU university on the continent. It doesn't so I am not worried. Anything else we will deal with if it occurs.

Decorhate · 04/08/2019 08:14

I’m not thinking of it from the POV of food shortages etc but if it means that dh & I decide to leave the country I’d worry about leaving my dc behind. The eldest would really need to stay to finish their degree here. I think I’d encourage the other to move with us & start again.

oneteen · 04/08/2019 08:25

My niece is off to Valencia in September (Yr abroad on Spanish/Geography joint honours course). Brexit has had no effect on her course.

Hoghgyni · 04/08/2019 09:22

Forget uni. Article in today's Observer on the possible impact on schools. Sorry, can't link from the Guardian App.

titchy · 04/08/2019 12:48

Why would there be food shortages at uni and not if your child stayed at home?

uzfrdiop · 04/08/2019 14:07

My niece is off to Valencia in September (Yr abroad on Spanish/Geography joint honours course). Brexit has had no effect on her course.

That's because we have not yet left the European Union.

If there is a hard Brexit in October, she will be impacted: Erasmus funding will immediately stop; funding arrangements for tuition fees will immediately stop; the value of the pound is likely to fall again; immigration rules will be in limbo.

oneteen · 04/08/2019 14:15

@uzfrdiop - she has been informed by Leeds Uni, that her course will not be affected. The value of the £ is only falling because of uncertainty.

boys3 · 04/08/2019 17:43

hmmmmm given the range of possible scenarios it is difficult to know what really merits being worried about...............yet

However couple of slightly left field thoughts

Interesting times and arguably more so for students reading history, politics, IR. Likely to be a load of live sources for that third year dissertation, and a plethora of Brexit related subjects.

Increasing likelihood of some sort of electoral event this autumn. So assuming all DCs heading off are going to be 18 make sure they have registered to vote. Remember they can register both at home and term time address - although obviously for a General Election / Referendum can only use their vote once. Depending on their Brexit outlook they might want to be tactical about this.

An Election also offers some quite well paid and hardly onerous employment opportunities. Local Authorities always need a lot of extra people come an election - including the lead up as well as the election day itself. So worth contacting the LA where there Uni is and registering for that too.

BubblesBuddy · 05/08/2019 00:10

That work is poorly paid but ok if you are desperate for a long day!

Erasmus is the big problem. Lots of collaborative research with European institutions is due to be curtailed and stopped too and this will impact learning and prospects.

AutumnCrow · 05/08/2019 00:14

Horrible uncertainty.

My DS is going into final year. There are already issues (science), but it's his story to tell.

uzfrdiop · 05/08/2019 01:27

she has been informed by Leeds Uni, that her course will not be affected. The value of the £ is only falling because of uncertainty.

Good that Leeds University know this for sure, when the rest of UK universities don't really know what is going to happen in the case of No Deal Brexit. Apart from our European funding stopping immediately and researchers paid by this losing their jobs. And Erasmus stopping immediately.

I don't think the economic consensus is that the pound is falling only because of the uncertainty.

uzfrdiop · 05/08/2019 01:29

BTW for immigration status for UK students studying in Europe: check out the fears of the "Britons in Europe" group about their residency status in a No Deal scenario.

oneteen · 05/08/2019 01:53

@uzfrdiop - maybe you need to read this document so that you do understand what the latest position is. Do you think a University (Leeds) would allow DC to go abroad without having a contingency in place? www.erasmusplus.org.uk/file/17492/download

uzfrdiop · 05/08/2019 14:41

Yes, being an academic, I have read this (and many, many other) related documents.

No deal means no deal. It means (by its very definition) that there is a huge amount of uncertainty in what will actually happen. Take this quote from the document, for example:

"If there’s no deal, UK nationals will not need a visa for short trips, according to European Commission proposals. You could stay for up to 90 days in any 180-day period. You may need a visa or permit to stay for longer, or to work or study."

The first sentence is propaganda & potentially inaccurate, as the EC will not commit to anything until a deal is struck. If the UK imposes visas for short trips, then the EU will follow suit. The following sentences admit that students may need a visa to work or study.

Universities are of course trying to proceed as usual, and hoping that sanity prevails. But it's pie in the sky to think that we have made "contingency plans" for everything, when like everyone else we don't have a clue what it is going to happen next.

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