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Offer holder visit days- what do your DCs expect?

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NickyNicky · 09/02/2018 15:28

I've NC because this is potentially quite outing.

I hope I'm not being too cheeky posting here. I'm an academic and admissions tutor for a social science degree at a Russell Group university.

Next week we are hosting visit days for offer holders. The offer holders spend the morning with tours of the university, talks from the Union etc. then the afternoon is subject-specific sessions. In these sessions we do talks about the degree and example teaching.

I think they work well but I'm never sure (and University is blocking us doing research for all sorts of reasons). What I'd really like to know is what do your DCs want from their subject-specific sessions when they come to an offer-holder day?

Any thoughts on this are really gratefully received

OP posts:
Deianira · 11/02/2018 13:04

Just wanted to post and say I'm also an academic, and the suggestions on this thread so far are really interesting and helpful, so do add more thoughts please if you have them! We want to make our offer holder days as useful as possible, but it's not always easy to be sure what is the most useful for thing.

TheDrsDocMartens · 11/02/2018 13:19

Dd1 only been to the one for her first choice. She had taster lectures. Tour of the dept. Current and past students talks and informal meets during breakfast/lunch. Lots of tutors around to discuss different modules with.
Talk for parents on finance and future prospects then directed to the city centre. Tbh I wasn’t expecting to stay and was put out by the talk Blush

HammersRaised · 11/02/2018 14:47

I think it’s best for universities to make it clear from the outset whether or not parents should stay. Booking for the maths applicant day at Warwick has just opened and it clearly states that the activities are for the offer holders and they’re not arranging anything for parents, which is great as I really don’t fancy going to any more than I have to! Honestly, I’d prefer not to go at all, but DD is keen that I tag along. One down, two more to go for me and she will go to Warwick by herself thank goodness! Grin

CraftyGin · 11/02/2018 15:49

We’ve done both applicant and offer holder days over the years. The offer holder days have typically been a lot more personalised and enticing.

Apart from Edinburgh, where DC3 is now, they have all pulled out the stops with lunch laid on, sessions for parents, sample lectures, accommodation tours.

Everywhere had had a “what our city has to offer”, as well as a breakdown of the course and modules beyond the first year. They have all had accommodation tours.

It’s nice to have an “Activities Fair”,so that students get a flavour of the culture of the university. Sheffield did well on this.

What students want from an offer holders day depends on the research they have already done via visits to other univerisities and the departmental websites.

DD, now in her first year, did pre-applicant visits to Bristol, Southampton and Sussex. She hated Bristol (against the trend) but could see herself at Sussex or Southampton. What she didn’t like about Bristol was the course itself —and how much they were up themselves—.

When she came to submitting her UCAS form, she picked courses that had similar structures to Southampton and Sussex. She put down Edinburgh for its reputation, and threw in Newcastle and Sheffield (I had visited them on offer holder days for her sister).

She visited Edinburgh for the first time on an offer holders day which confirmed that the course was right. The accommodation talk was useful and removed stress from the process. The activities fair was rubbish. Overall, it was not a great day in that we didn’t have a lot to do. We went shopping and took a very long bus ride just to kill the time.

She still chose it and is loving it.

LoniceraJaponica · 11/02/2018 17:15

"She hated Bristol"

So did my DD. She hated Manchester as well.

CraftyGin · 11/02/2018 17:55

I took DS to Manchester for an offer holder day. We stepped off the train and he said there was no way he was coming here. First class travel (starting at 5.30am), deep breath, boozy lunch. Kids!

BubblesBuddy · 11/02/2018 18:46

Bristol students tend to know they want Bristol. They tend not to visit everywhere under the sun! DD found it friendly and welcoming so I guess it’s down to individuals and what they want from a university.

Manchester offer day for DD consisted of a short tour, a chat from some Professor and a face to face meeting with a lecturer who told DD she really only needed 2 decent A level passes to get into the MLang course. They could be very flexible on grades. There was one other student present for her course. She only went because they gave her a quick offer. No competition between that and Bristol. Manchester was a lesson in how not to do an offer day.

CraftyGin · 11/02/2018 19:06

Bristol students tend to know they want Bristol

What’s that supposed to mean?

LoniceraJaponica · 11/02/2018 21:42

I want to know as well CraftyGin

Nettleskeins · 11/02/2018 21:54

Ds and I just went to an offer holder day at Hull. Really calm atmosphere, exceptionally clean premises, lunch laid on for students. Long taster session for 4 hours.

As we had come a long way and not been to Open Day it was very useful to have lots of info about accommodation and a proper tour of the library etc when there were less people around.

As others up thread have said, the most important thing for me was meeting the students, who were without fail articulate, positive, and sensible. All the ones I spoke to had made the university their first choice and were able to talk seriously about their subject even if they were just directing us to the canteen. For ds it was the academic sessions; he could imagine himself on the course and working in the library.

having it on a Saturday was also good, quite calm atmosphere and not too busy.

Also liked the way that there was not too much marketing going on, at least not in an obvious way. I did not feel I was being sold a product.

Nettleskeins · 11/02/2018 21:57

Universities which offer unconditionals really need to make a good impression, as it can mean student makes up their mind there and then. I liked the fact that those with unconditional offers were not singled out though, I felt there was no pressure on ds, and an interview might have created pressure.

ParisMiper · 12/02/2018 11:40

I really don’t understand the unconditional Bristol love on here Confused There is no way my DC would have applied to Bristol despite being a high achiever. Something is clearly not quite right there www.google.co.uk/amp/metro.co.uk/2018/01/22/eighth-bristol-student-dies-in-suspected-suicide-in-18-months-7249149/amp/

LoniceraJaponica · 12/02/2018 11:55

Neither do I Paris. Those statistics are pretty frightening.

Mind you, Oxford isn't covered in glory either cherwell.org/2017/11/20/calls-for-oxford-mental-health-reform-after-student-suicide/

<a class="break-all" href="//Vwww.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5086311/Death-bright-brilliant-Oxford-student-hid-pain.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Vwww.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5086311/Death-bright-brilliant-Oxford-student-hid-pain.html

Sorry about the Daily Fail link

ParisMiper · 12/02/2018 12:09

Sorry for the thread derail by the way OP! Flowers
Perceptions of Bristol on mumsnet is, in my opinion, a topic that should be discussed, but this thread is not the place.

LoniceraJaponica · 12/02/2018 12:12

And my apologies as well

BubblesBuddy · 12/02/2018 13:43

I think, from what I have observed with DDs friends, is the ones who chose Bristol tended to know quite early in the process that they wanted Bristol so didn’t look around that much. Perhaps it’s a comfort thing if you know people who are like you and want Bristol. Not scientific research obviously but I think because it has a high level of independently educated students, it’s an obvious place to go for some. I think you would find exactly the same about Oxbridge bound students. They know they want their university too so they probably do not look at a massive amount of other universities either.

ParisMiper · 12/02/2018 13:58

Seriously? Hmm Attending a university where there is a high proportion of students who attended independent schools holds so much weight when considering where to spend the next 3/4 years getting a degree that looking elsewhere is unnecessary? The mind boggles Confused

Needmoresleep · 12/02/2018 14:07

Both DC were offered places too late for offer days. However LSE held a useful briefing session and tour at the start of the first term aimed at parents. Sessions on finance (student loans, busaries, how to pay fees), medical and dental (some US parents very surprised that you might choose to use the NHS, even in an emergency), careers and the role of the careers office (would be bankers start looking for summer internships almost immediately) and welfare. Plus an overview of the University, it's history etc. (And how we could one day leave massive legacies to them!) Putting it another way, what do parents need to know to support your students.

It's was useful to know what the University offers. Most parents will at some stage be urging their DC to make use of careers, welfare or medical. Also useful to split prospective students from parents. DD found one open day seriously off putting as all questions were from parents. She was on her own and felt as if the focus was selling the course to parents rather than those who would paying and taking the course.

BubblesBuddy · 12/02/2018 14:21

Your mind can boggle as much as it wants but I think you will find it’s a trend and what difference does it make if you are happy there and do well? I didn’t say not looking anywhere else but the need to travel to loads of open days and offer days is diminished if you know what you really want. If you know all along it’s the place for you then what’s the problem? Why is it superior to look at loads of other places? Only on MN are people so dismissive of other people’s views and reasons for choices! It’s rude really!

OhYouBadBadKitten · 12/02/2018 14:27

Surely students feel that way about any university that they feel is The One. I don't think Bristol has a monopoly on that.

dd has The Two, to the point where she really scrabbled around to find anything for her last couple of choices as they just didn't compare in what she was looking for.

ParisMiper · 12/02/2018 14:28

Ah, it’s you Smile the island owning lawyer per chance?

AtiaoftheJulii · 12/02/2018 14:52

I think you would find exactly the same about Oxbridge bound students. They know they want their university too so they probably do not look at a massive amount of other universities either.

That would probably be a foolish move, seeing as about 80% of them don't get into Oxford or Cambridge.

Only on MN are people so dismissive of other people’s views and reasons for choices! It’s rude really!

Grin that's hilarious Bubbles: you're possibly the rudest, most dismissive person on the Education boards!

ParisMiper · 12/02/2018 15:07

Atia True dat 😂

LoniceraJaponica · 12/02/2018 15:34

Why are there so many independently educated students at Bristol.

ParisMiper · 12/02/2018 15:44

The same could be said for oxbridge, St. Andrews or Exeter, but those universities don’t seem to elicit the same fervent cheerleading as Bristol seems to by many on mumsnet.