Student loan - child maintenance

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Anybody around who understands the Student Finance application form? I need to complete it for my DS.

I believe that child maintenance from my ex-husband doesn't count as "income" for student loan purposes. So I've just put in my income, disregarding the child maintenance he gives me. But when I've started to input the details of my other DCs, it asks about their income including "maintenance payments". Does this mean child maintenance, does anyone know? The money doesn't go to the DCs, it's paid to me....but I couldn't see anything in my section for me to disclose it.

Also, I'm worried now because when DS sent in his form he didn't disclose any maintenance from his father. Was he supposed to? It doesn't go to him, it goes to me.

I'm confused and SFE aren't open today, so if there are any experts around I'd be very glad to know.

It will be difficult but he absolutely must support his unborn child. I have a son and I would be insisting that he support any future child that he fathers no matter how awkward it is financially or otherwise.

Parents have a duty to bring their children up to accept their responsibilities not to shirk them because they don't like the consequences.

Id rather that a grandchild is created when by biological son and his loving partner both want a child - not when it suits one only.
The fact my son's first child is not one of his choosing is both sad and joyless.
The fact the mother wants to bring a child into the world with no secure job, no partner and against the wishes of the biological father is - as the law clearly states - her perogative.
However she is destroying the future of the father, causing distress to both sets of parents and is not creating the best start for her own family life.
I think one might say the decision is selfish because it reflects her wishes only.
The embryo at nine weeks does not - as you know - does not count.
I would mind less if she was intending to pay for the unwanted child herself - but we all know that's not going to happen.
As for what I want or do not want for my 'grandchild' is concerned - a child not wanted by my son is not wanted by me either!

One thing that I will be talking to my son when he becomes sexual active is the fact that he CANNOT trust any woman saying that she's on the pill and that therefore he is safe to assume that they are BOTH protected, not so much because the pill does exceptionally fell, but most also because women of any age become broody and when they do, they will not let the wishes of the contributing creator get in the way.

If you know for absolute certain that you don't want a child, be prepared to have to use condoms each time.Trust is not a safe contraceptive method.

If you know for absolute certain that you don't want a child, be prepared to have to use condoms each time.Trust is not a safe contraceptive method.

^ This. Added to which, I will be teaching my daughter not to believe a man who says he will use a condom or will withdraw (in any case, a condom is essential anyway for obvious reasons)

Then as long as your son pays the required amount it would seem the girl and baby are better off without either of you.

I can't believe I've actually read this, you sound like a lovely person that gives mil bad names

God are you still whinging on about your son's right to ejaculate condomless without consequence? You are really odd.

Jeez, what a bizarre and unhinged thread hijack

Poor kid, what a poisonous pair you and your son are!

Stumbled across this whikst looking up something out of curiosity todo with how much child maintenance is.

I think the fact that the mother is violent is a major issue here that others are glossing over. The mother is clearly an abusive partner who has deliberately used pregnancy as a way to well punish the posters son frankly. The girlfriend/mother honestly doesn't sound fit to care for a child. I realise these posts are several years old now and am curious how things panned out?

None of this ofc takes away from the fact that your son should have used a condom and sadly for the sake of the child will have to pay child maintenance. In his position I woukd actually go one further. I'd go to court after full custody of the child on the grounds that the mother is abusive and violent and frankly not fit to look after a child. It's less than ideal but you do seem to have in your posts rather missed the forest for the trees. Ultimately this is all about the presumeably now toddler and it's wellbeing and future.

(On a broader point however it is ridiculous that if a women claims she has opted to take contraception and LIED that she can ignore the wishes of the father and infact not even consult him. Legally she could have not told him until after she had the child if she wanted. She doesn't even have to discuss it with the father and can then still demand 20 years of payments. Honestly, there is a complete lack of requirement for her to take r² to live on and for the child and prioritise her for housing etc should she choose to have the child. I don't know what the solution is exactly but I will point out that if a man says he is using contraception and removes the condom/lies he can actually be done for rape, yet in this case the girlfriend has claimed to be using the pill but has conveniently 'forgotten'. I see little difference here in terms of consent and accountability tbh.