Am aware of recent initiations involving freshers who had hoped to join sports teams at four Russell Group uni's. Swallowing their own pee, physically forced to drink large quantities of pints of 'cocktails' of spirits, having items of clothing removed, one girl ended up being so drunk, after stripping off whilst dancing on a table, fell and landed on glasses, having obscenities written on their faces with permanent markers (which took days to remove, or like one Fresher scrubbing it off with a scouring pad leaving her face raw and bleeding), semi-forced sexual activities and expected to perform lewd behaviour in public etc. The option was to join in or leave the team. (Some of the team captains (who are the main instigators) belong to local sports teams as well, so that wasn't an option either). The four students in question decided to leave their teams and chosen sports; a loss for both the university and for the students, all of whom had belonged to high profile national Club academies and were all county/regional and higher sportsmen and women. Ironically one lad decided to join the UOTC instead and found it much the same. If similar behaviour happened elsewhere it would be called bullying. Everyone moans about the drink culture we have in this country. Quelle surprise. Thoughts?