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DS at Uni - landlord and retainer

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WelshCerys · 04/06/2012 21:10

DS coming to end of first year uni, in hall. Soon after moving in, made friends with lads in his flat and 4 of them organized 2nd year accommodation in the town. SU housing advice was not to panic - not to rush - and to seek advice before signing contracts. The boys ignored all this.

Found themselves with having to pay a retainer (OK, usual practice) for 3 months - June, July, August - then full rent from 1st Sept though term doesn't start until much later in the month.

Have found out, from looking at a load of student union web pages that most retainers are two months, June and July. My DS is worried - he's paid the deposit but can't rise to three months of a retainer (50% of the full rent) - and neither can we, at least not without a great deal of difficulty. I've spoken to the landlord - seems very affable but determined to get the money off this lads pronto. I've also spoken, way back, to the housing officer at son's uni - helpful and reinforced advice that students should seek SU advice before rushing into contracts.

DS highly unlikely to go near the SU himself - have asked him to do so repeatedly. Is it likely, if I call them (or DS finally gets there) that they might negotiate with this landlord who, presumably, wants to keep on the right side of the student population? Unfortunately, one of their number has already paid the retainer. A particularly well off young man.

Does 3 months' retainer seem excessive? The house would be empty but, according to DS, there is work to do in it before September. And the landlord wants DS to give him his student number. Is this normal practice?

DS long way from home - DH collecting him soon and wondering if he shouldn't pop by and see the landlord. Thoughts/advice - thanks!

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mumeeee · 09/06/2012 09:24

DD1 paid half rent for the summer and also a deposit but she was able to move in at the beginning of the September she changed houses for the third year and the same sort of thing happened but she had full access to the house from August. Each time she moved out she got the deposit back after the house had been cleaned properly and the land lord had checked their wasn't any damage . Although she did have to argue with the first landlord to get it all back. DD2 was able to move into her student house in the June and paid full rent from then she was able to stay in the same house for her third year and didn't have to move out in the holidays. In fact she finished uni last week and doesn't have to move out until.the end of July. She is staying up there with 2 of her friends so is looking for another house.

dancingflowers · 03/07/2012 15:15

Again my DD paying full rent for 12 months, if water being heated by workmen check who pays the bill

mollymole · 10/07/2012 12:49

My DS has always had to pay for 12 months, however, apart from a week when the whole house was repainted they did have access and could live there.

One thing your son and his friends need to be aware of is that they ALL need to be students to get the place council rates free, so if 1 drops out they need to replace them with a student, not some one who is working.

harbingerofdoom · 13/07/2012 22:32

Don't want to hijack but my DD1 and five friends took their house on !st July.
She is named along with another girl on the house bank account.
She is the name on the gas&electricity account.
One of the boys is doing water and broadband.
So very worried that it has been 'dumped' on her.

Any advice

goinggetstough · 14/07/2012 12:10

harbinger assuming that all the house are paying their monthly bills payment into the house account your DD should be fine.

By the look of it 3 people in the house aren't doing anything but 3 are. To be honest I think it gives your daughter control which IMO is a plus. She will know whats going on. We found last year that it was very important to make sure the bills were paid for the full 12 months (into the house account) rather than starting when they all get back in September as the electricity/gas companies base the monthly payment on 12 months and not 10. We also found that due to my DC and her housemates being very stingy with the heating that it was worth them sending up to date meter readings as their monthly payments were reduced over the year. They saved too by having both electricity from the same supplier and online billing.

Is anyone in charge of the TV licence if they have a television?

harbingerofdoom · 14/07/2012 19:15

goinggetstough thank you for giving me a different perception of the house 'set up'.
DD1 is quite capable of dealing with her role, I was more worried about house mates not paying on time/their share and then who's liable.
What did your DCs put aside for the utilities bills each month?
Nobody sorting TV out yet... will be just over £20 per person.

goinggetstough · 14/07/2012 19:28

I think she paid about £40 per month.The electricity/gas company will ask for a set amount per year split into months, the water depends on whether it is a fixed rate or on a meter ( the former being better for prediction purposes), they used virgin media for Internet and they just added it all together and divided it by 4 and then by the number of months. Direct debit is the only way to go!! Am not sure abou the liability though.

She lived in an old damp house with windows that didn't fit so their fuel costs may have been higher but as they were so mean with the heating it probably averaged itself out.

Fizzylemonade · 14/08/2012 11:26

Right, I know I am coming to this very late, but I used to work in Council Tax, and the reason that most LL charge for a full years rent is because for the period the house is unoccupied and no tenancy agreement covers it, they get billed for Council Tax

As is stands, technically the Council Tax should be in the name of the LL as a HMO and then the students have to provide a certificate to prove they are students. They get this from the Uni/College.

These are submitted along with the tenancy agreement and a student exemption is applied to the account resulting in a aero charge.

If one person drops out of uni (the uni normally informs us) then a 75% charge is levied on the account.

Technically again, each person should have their own tenancy agreement with the room they are renting on it, not one tenancy where everyone is named. I stopped working 8 years ago to be a SAHM but I am sure that is the state of play.

Most tenancies we dealt with ran from 15th August for one year.

Fizzylemonade · 14/08/2012 11:27

aero charge Grin multi tasking fail, zero charge.

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