DS wants to go to university in Europe.

[Batteryhuman]

My Ds is looking at economics and business degree courses in Europe, particularly Holland where there are a number of degrees taught in english. Has anyone else any experience of this, the admissions process, living and studying etc that they can share?

Political Science in The Hague is a campus of Leiden University.

THE university rankings have Leiden at 67, whereas Bristol, Warwick and Durham are at 76, 91 and 97 respectively.

No one mentioned Leiden until now! However i think employers still rate the other three higher with employers here. Unless you want to work in The Hague of course! It’s a bit like the UN and other Swiss based NGOs who like grads of Geneva University. You have to speak French to go there though.

Also, I see it was mentioned that the Dutch universities teach Law. Whose law do they teach and is it a recognised qualification in the uk? If it’s not, what’s the point?

" i think employers still rate the other three higher with employers here"

I am really not sure about this. Perhaps if he will eventually be seeking a local job, but London financial employers will welcome an international outlook, and their recruitment is often done in an institution blind way.

A good number of those heading for the most competitive economics and finance jobs will take a Masters in something like economics or finance anyway. DS was the only Brit out of 39 on his well regarded UK Masters course. A good number of the others came from well regarded Universities across Europe. This, I think, is typical.

If you can, I would look at destinations. Where are students going onto. If some are entering good international firms, or further study in well-regarded Masters programmes in the UK, France, Stockholm etc, I would relax. He sounds as if he knows what he wants to do.

That said, the UK offers a number of very strong courses in the field, which he should consider if he is a strong enough applicant.

DD does not want to work in economics and finance. She is interested in careers with the UN, FCO, diplomacy or an NGO.

I think most of the law courses offered are 'European and International Law.'

Sorry, I was replying to OP. Or rather disputing the idea that British is always best, using DS' own experience in economics. I cant see why it would not apply to other diciplines. The key thing may be to look at what other students go on to do. If a small number end up working for international and humanitarian organisations, or go onto Masters that allow them to do this, then you know that the doors are open. For many Europeans, Law is seen as the ultimate generalist degree, and "stages" are very imporant.

Sorry, I was replying to OP.

From seven years ago.....

"Political Science in The Hague is a campus of Leiden University.

THE university rankings have Leiden at 67, whereas Bristol, Warwick and Durham are at 76, 91 and 97 respectively."

The THE 2019 World Rankings are out today:
www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2019/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/-1/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

Leiden is 68
Bristol (78), Warwick (79) and Durham (114)

Six of the 13 Dutch Research universities are between 58-79 in the World Rankings.

• Sorry, seven of the 13 Dutch Research Universities are between 58-79 in the THE World Rankings.

Six of the 13 Dutch Research universities are between 58-79 in the World Rankings.

But none above 58, right?

And how many does the UK have in the top 50?

And you are taking into account who to read the rankings, right? I.e. the rankings disfavour "small" universities like Durham relative to those with larger numbers of students.