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Guest Post: "What I Tell My Kids About Getting a Job (And What I've Learned From Hiring Thousands of Other People's)"

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RhiannonEMumsnet · 16/06/2026 11:12

Chris Hirst

Chris Hirst is the former Global CEO of Havas Creative Group and author of Indispensable: The No Bullsh*t Guide to Career Success (Macmillan, out now). His previous book, No Bullsh*t Leadership, won Business Book of the Year in 2020.

I have two kids both navigating a job market that, on paper, looks brutal.

Youth unemployment is at its highest in a decade. A million young people are classified as NEETs. The average graduate vacancy attracts 140 applications. And every other headline seems to be telling them that AI is coming for whatever jobs are left.

Parents are understandably worried - and I'm one of them.

But I've also spent thirty years on the other side of the hiring table. From an engineering graduate on the shopfloor of a glass factory to the CEO of a billion-dollar business, I've hired hundreds of people directly and been responsible for many thousands more. And what I know from that experience is this: the fundamentals of career success have not changed and many young people are losing out for the wrong reasons.

Not because they're not good enough. But because nobody ever explained how work works – and how we can make it work for us.

So here is what I tell my own kids. And what I'd tell yours.

Qualifications are a proxy, not a passport

The vast majority of jobs do not require a specific degree or qualification. Therefore, though qualifications matter (and the higher quality the better) for all jobs they are simply a proxy measure – used to provide a guide to the applicant’s future potential. Employers don’t want clever graduates, they want successful employees and the two are most definitely not the same thing.

Work experience is more important than ever

Prior work experience has become invaluable when hunting for entry-level jobs.

It is a powerful differentiator - not because of what you learn, but because it proves the candidate can (and will) work. It doesn't matter what the job was: volunteering, interning, waiting table, fetching coffees, data entry. Employers want evidence that you're a useful energetic employee and with the profusion of degrees and AI applications that evidence is becoming more valuable every year.

And make sure to get a good written reference.

Quality beats quantity

The temptation for graduates is to cut and paste hundreds of applications. Though it can become something of a numbers game, this approach is to be resisted.

It is far better to do fewer, but make them stand out.

65% of UK graduates now use AI to write job applications. Employers know this - and are becoming adept at filtering them. The more everyone uses AI, the more a human, specific, well-prepared application stands out. The graduates winning right now are the ones who understand this.

That said everybody gets rejections – often quite a few. If you do, always ask for feedback. Many people won’t, but some will and it’s worth it – if only to potentially continue the conversation. You never know where it leads.

It’s a game of two halves

Graduate employment is typically application (CV) and hiring (interview).

At the application stage, employers are not looking for reasons to hire - they're looking for reasons to reject because they need to get a list of hundreds down to a manageable shortlist. Here the objective is to stay in the game. Don't make it easy for them to cut you.

The interview is the opposite. By the time they meet you, they want you to be the answer to their problem. Most people don't realise that shift has happened and show up to the interview the same way they approached the application.

Practise and preparation for each half dramatically improve outcomes.

Nobody cares how clever you are

They care about whether you’re going to be great to work with, that you’ll be a fantastic colleague, about your passion, your enthusiasm, your potential – and most of all that you’ll get sh*t done. These aren’t what careers advisors tell us or what we learn at university. But they are what all employers want.

Be the person who gets things done

If there is one piece of advice I'd give any young person starting out, it's this: be the person who says ‘let me take care of that.’

Young people are often frustrated that their elders ‘won’t listen to their ideas’. But ideas are easy, ten-a-penny. Teams don’t need any more ideas, they already have more than enough. What they need are people with the courage and energy to make some of them happen.

Bring solutions, not problems. When something goes wrong, think through what you'd do about it before raising it. Anybody can point out what isn't working. The people who thrive are the ones who come with answers.

None of this requires exceptional intelligence or special talent. It requires the right attitude. It’s this attitude that gets people hired, ensures they succeed once they have been and it’s a choice we can all make.

We have three copies of Indispensable: The No Bullsh*t Guide to Career Success to give away. For a chance to win, comment below the thread.

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BoobsOnTheMoon · 16/06/2026 11:14

Who is this a guest post from and why didn't they write it themselves instead of using AI?

Oranginacatterpilla · 16/06/2026 11:19

They are CEO of a billianty bim bom company

BoobsOnTheMoon · 16/06/2026 11:22

Oranginacatterpilla · 16/06/2026 11:19

They are CEO of a billianty bim bom company

Oh I see some tiny text has appeared since the post originally went up. At first, there was absolutely zero context as to who had written this!

Darragon · 16/06/2026 11:51

I see it has zero advice or reflection on the inappropriate use of AI by employers who are filtering out candidates for stupid reasons causing huge problems. I guess his whole attitude with that is ‘don’t get cut’ but it’s not useful advice when for example the employer has decided that a creative writing degree is the ‘right’ degree for a marketing job despite having no relevance, meanwhile a humanities or science degree but 5 years actual experience as a marketer doesn’t make the cut because tickbox AI isn’t programmed to consider that combination whereas a human could clearly tell you which applicant is better. You literally cannot get a time machine and change your degree title and employers are bemoaning that they are getting poor applicants but it’s their own fault because of this AI tickbox keyword-focused mentality being used for the first sift instead of common sense.

DawnAttwood · 19/06/2026 09:35

This is interesting advice - if a little depressing for those of us with kids in this position! I'd like to be entered into the book draw please.

Namechangedtohideidentity · 19/06/2026 17:58

Good advice. I recruit people too, though not at this level. Principles are the same, as they say in the All Blacks……no dickheads.

ScarlettSahara · 19/06/2026 19:28

Interesting advice here & also some very pertinent comments from other posters on the frustrations of AI screening out applicants that would be quite suitable for positions. I would still be interested in reading the book.

ponygirlcurtis · 19/06/2026 19:49

My 20yo DS needs this advice!

Bookworm39 · 19/06/2026 21:32

But its so hard to get even entry level jobs now, so how do you get experience? My DS does volunteering in more than one area, but cannot get a part time/summer job to get experience for his CV.

Would be interested in the book. Every little helps as they say. 😁

aLittleWhiteHorse · 19/06/2026 21:44

Transferable skills like adaptability and getting on well with colleagues and the pubic are essential- but presumably most young people have these skills and still struggle to shine when the job market is so competitive. My new graduate DC would like to read the book.

Sundayblue26 · 19/06/2026 21:55

Some of this about getting stuff done is a straight lift from Obama

SachaF · 19/06/2026 23:58

I have a child struggling to get basic entry level jobs partly because his last job/internship wasn't basic, so they don't understand why he would step down a level effectively, but he doesn't have the experience or age or get a job in the field his last job was in!

Mangosorbetrocks · 20/06/2026 08:03

My 19 year old son has been volunteering at a local charity shop. But is still unable to find a summer job.
my son would like to read the book.

EmpressaurusKitty · 20/06/2026 08:14

Hiring Thousands of Other People's whats?

sassyclassyandsmartassy · 20/06/2026 09:14

As an employer, great advice. Totally correct, I have always offered to the candidates where it is clear they have structured their application to the job. Not only have qualifications, but some work experience/volunteering that they have stuck at and come to the interview showing they are keen by having suitably prepared.

I had to chuckle once when I got a message on a jobs platform that said ‘well I would come for interview but I’m not doing all that’ in response to an ad for a social media/marketing person asking them to put together something paper based as an example of their work tailored to us and a small document with their social media ideas for the company. One 21 year old, who was so well presented and very articulate despite clearly being super nervous, came with a beautifully presented leaflet and a well laid out A4 page with a beautiful diagram of her ideas. I practically hired her on the spot!

It’s taken a bit of training for her to gain her confidence, she was just such a sweet girl and our environment is bloody tough, but she’s now the most 5* reviewed member of my team and excels at her job.

Attitude is everything….

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 20/06/2026 21:45

EmpressaurusKitty · 20/06/2026 08:14

Hiring Thousands of Other People's whats?

Kids, presumably.

EmpressaurusKitty · 20/06/2026 21:47

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 20/06/2026 21:45

Kids, presumably.

That makes sense, maybe they hit the title word limit.

Newlittlerescue · 20/06/2026 21:54

The "Game of two halves" bit is interesting. I hadn't looked at it in that way before.

Summergarden · 20/06/2026 21:58

Please enter me for the draw. Sounds like useful advice for all young people.

Pansykavalier · 20/06/2026 22:04

Lots of useful advice. Especially this…

“… always ask for feedback. Many people won’t, but some will and it’s worth it – if only to potentially continue the conversation. You never know where it leads”

Mincepiesagain · 20/06/2026 22:41

Good advice. Interested to read more.

Prombles · Yesterday 19:17

At the application stage, employers are not looking for reasons to hire - they're looking for reasons to reject because they need to get a list of hundreds down to a manageable shortlist. Here the objective is to stay in the game. Don't make it easy for them to cut you.
The interview is the opposite. By the time they meet you, they want you to be the answer to their problem. Most people don't realise that shift has happened and show up to the interview the same way they approached the application.

Do you mean here that at application you should present yourself in a low key, low risk way, but at interview you should take a high risk approach to be conspicuous?

dublinmary · Yesterday 19:23

I agree attitude and enthusiasm is what makes candidates stand out. And having made an effort to really research the organisation, not asking for an AI overview which may be incorrect. I'd like this book for my kids. Thanks.

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