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Guest post: "Shared Parental Leave isn’t working. At all."

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JuliaMumsnet · 24/05/2021 12:24

Years after the introduction of paid parental leave, the uptake among fathers is very low. Ros Bragg, director of Maternity Action, argues that Shared Parental Leave is inherently flawed and outlines Maternity Action's suggestion of a 'use it or lose it' model that would support fathers and second parents to take leave and lead to more equal parenting.

"It’s been six years since the policy was introduced, and the most recent data shows that take-up amongst eligible fathers is only around 3-4%. That’s far short of the 25% that the government had hoped for by now, and pretty conclusive evidence that Shared Parental Leave (SPL) isn’t fit for purpose.

But significantly, it’s not failing due to any lack of demand on the part of parents: there is ample evidence that fathers would like more time off work after the birth of a child.

Our advice lines regularly take calls from exasperated parents who desperately want to try and use the scheme, but are held back by its sheer complexity.

These are parents like Amy and John. They contacted Maternity Action after their request to take shared leave and pay at the same time was turned down, even though it is allowed under the policy. John’s employer was adamant that to pay both parents would be fraud – and by the time the query was raised with HMRC, Amy was already on maternity leave and John had to take unpaid leave.
Instead of enjoying those first few weeks and months with the baby together, both Amy and John were hugely stressed about whether or not they were going to get paid, and the situation put a huge strain on John’s relationship with his employer.

This is typical of the problems with Shared Parental Leave – parents who do want to take it are faced with a system with inherent design flaws and complexity, and a ludicrously low rate of pay: just £152 per week, equivalent to less than half of the national minimum wage.

‘Mothers need time to recover from birth’

Even the name is faulty: shared parental leave is really ‘transferable maternity leave’, as the scheme created no additional parental leave entitlement for fathers, but simply ‘enabled’ mothers to give away all but two weeks of their leave.

This means that, if a mother (not unreasonably) wants to use most or all of her maternity leave entitlement, there is little or no SPL available to the father. And the designers of the scheme knew that the average length of statutory maternity leave taken by mothers is 39 weeks – that is, the full entitlement of paid leave. And 45% of new mothers take more than 39 weeks.

This is hardly surprising, as – contrary to the impression often given by ministers – the duration of paid leave available to new mothers in the UK is short by international standards. And new mothers are not just ‘caring for’ or ‘bonding with’ their baby. They are recovering from the often severe physical and mental impacts of pregnancy and birth. Plus, they may be breastfeeding.

‘Use it or lose it’

So what’s the solution? Well, the good news is that six years’ experience of SPL confirms the lessons we could and should have learnt from parental leave policies in other countries. In short, the most successful approaches – such as those in Sweden, Iceland, Norway and Finland – are based on individual, non-transferable (‘use it or lose it’) rights to leave for each parent, and on that leave being moderately well paid.

We at Maternity Action suggest that Shared Parental Leave is scrapped altogether, and replaced with new rights to six months of paid maternity leave reserved for the mother, and six months of paid parental leave for each parent.

This would give mothers a combined paid leave entitlement of up to 52 weeks – 13 weeks more than now. And it would give fathers and other second parents a total paid leave entitlement of up to 28 weeks – that is, 26 weeks more than now.

This would mean that there is no question of the mother ‘giving up’ her recovery time after childbirth, and would mean that both parents had a right to individual paid leave to bond and care for their child.

The ‘use-it-or-lose-it’ approach would incentivise fathers and second parents to take leave when previously they would not have considered it, because of financial or other constraints.

Achieving more equal parenting is a process that will take many years and will require, in addition to more equitable rights to better paid maternity and parental leave, robust governmental action to increase the supply of affordable childcare, and a major effort by political and business leaders to drive a change in parenting culture in the workplace.

But we need to make a start. And the time to do so is now.

You can support us by writing to your local MP - just click on this link, enter your postcode, and we do the rest.

You can follow Maternity Action on twitter @MaternityAction and Ros Bragg @rosbragg.

Guest post: "Shared Parental Leave isn’t working. At all."
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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 25/05/2021 08:55

Interesting that £152 per week is seen as "ludicrous" when discussed in terms of fathers taking leave but the vast majority of women only ever got this on maternity leave.

Hiddenmnetter · 25/05/2021 08:55

I would be ok with the SPL policy if it meant that I was able to access my companies maternity leave for myself. SPL @ £152/week is a collosal pay cut and unaffordable. Why isn't SPL paid out in line with the companies maternity leave? I would happily do 3 months at home with the kids if we could afford it, and my wife would probably be delighted to have the freedom to return to work without having to juggle my work patterns (as I vastly out earn her).

EllieQ · 25/05/2021 10:02

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz

Interesting that £152 per week is seen as "ludicrous" when discussed in terms of fathers taking leave but the vast majority of women only ever got this on maternity leave.
I was thinking that as well! Fine for mums, but not fine for dads Hmm

My DH did take SPL for the last two months of my maternity leave, and I went back to work full time (but used accrued leave so wasn’t working a full week). It worked very well for us - I was happy to be back at work and didn’t have to stress about settling DD into nursery while getting used to being at work. DH had been an involved dad, but I don’t think he really got how hard it was until he was at home with her all day. It made our relationship more equal, and he is a much more involved dad than other men I know.

I was on SMP only for the last few months of my maternity leave, but as we were on equal salaries, there was no change in overall income from DH working + my SMP and me working + DH getting SMP. I remember a couple of other mums saying that they couldn’t do SPL as their husbands earned more than them (first babies, so not affected by taking maternity leaves/ going PT), which makes me wonder how much this is a factor when thinking about SPL.

Other mums I met said they wouldn’t do it as they didn’t want to give up their maternity leave/ their time with their baby.

Nesski · 25/05/2021 10:20

@Tobebythesea when you say bonus total was cut, was it pro-ratered or more sinister?

We are doing shared parental, my husband to wanted to and I wasn't going to take that away from him. He will take the last 12 weeks, and he also has 6 weeks in top to which he will take off during the time I have off, plus all his holiday this year and next year. So his company has a great parental leave policy of 18 weeks full pay. Every single person I've told has asked me 'are you sure you want to give 12 weeks away?', which I'm quite taken aback to... Maybe I am naive in thinking it will be fine? I appreciate that we are in a much better situation than most, we work for different companies who can afford the enhanced pay. We have a male friend who works at the same company as him who has chosen not to take any leave, which to me is insane as it's essentially free money in my opinion, but who knows why? Perhaps he doesn't want to, perhaps he thinks there would be repercussions if he did? (He works in a non-fee earning role) I think it will take time for companies to accept and change their mindset on partners who want to take time off to spend with their babies, and for the government to either extend maternity leave if it was to remain 'shared parental leave', or make it independent of mother's leave.

SecondGentleman · 25/05/2021 10:58

I agree with the principle of separate allowances of leave.

However.

We value men's time differently to women's time. Women are expected to be grateful for the opportunity to have unpaid time off work with their babies, men are appalled at the idea of not being paid for their time.

Because of this, uptake of extended parental leave by fathers is not going to increase unless the rate of pay attached to it is also hugely increased.

I've read the full Maternity Action proposal, and their ultimate aim is for the entire 18 months of leave (including 6 months exclusively for fathers) to be paid at 100% of salary. Whilst I can see that this would probably increase the number of fathers taking leave, I fundamentally disagree with this policy. It creates a huge disparity between people on parental leave and people on other state benefits. I don't think the aim of encouraging fathers to take a greater role justifies this outcome.

And yet, if that level is pay isn't offered, fathers aren't going to take the time off work. Perhaps Maternity Action could have spend some time looking at how this problem can be resolved.

Given that the primary aim of this proposal is to promote the involvement of fathers in childrearing, I think one solution would be to focus on strengthening the rights of part-time workers (including flexibility so that workers can return to full time work after a period of part time work), and promoting/normalising part time work for fathers of young children, so that more fathers take an equal role over the long term. Or a version of SMP could be paid to all parents who work 4 days a week until the child is at preschool (which would surely be much cheaper for the government than paying 18 months of parental leave at 100% pay).

SillyBry · 25/05/2021 11:05

My husband is a teacher. Women taking maternity leave get a very generous maternity package when working in teaching. Men taking SPL get statutory, so it would have been a lot harder for us to use it financially.

maloney123 · 25/05/2021 11:23

My husband and I wanted to take shared parental leave so he could have an extra few weeks off after the birth, but the system was so complicated we couldn’t work out how to, and my HR department couldn’t advise either, so we didn’t bother in the end

Curiosity101 · 25/05/2021 11:51

My husband and I wanted to take shared parental leave so he could have an extra few weeks off after the birth, but the system was so complicated we couldn’t work out how to, and my HR department couldn’t advise either, so we didn’t bother in the end

That was exactly our experience too.

Add to that we couldn't work out what the financial impact would be and it just became pointless.

I'm currently pregnant with baby #2 and we haven't considered it at all this time. As much as my DH wants to be more involved I don't want to give up a single second of my leave. I feel a bit selfish but fortunately my DH understands.

Even just giving father's some protection/rights for taking additional unpaid parental leave would be helpful. As then we could at least save up and facilitate that just like we have done for the unpaid portion of my maternity leave.

HopeValley · 25/05/2021 12:11

There needs to be some support, any support, for self-employed fathers.

Twinmammaplusone · 25/05/2021 13:23

My DH is on SPL right now. His company pay the statutory rate and nothing more so it’s costing us a fortune in lost wages. For this reason I’m not surprised the take up amongst men is low!

Nesski · 25/05/2021 13:33

I also want to add that our companies made the whole process extremely easy and made it clear what the financial breakdown would be for me and then his company for him. But this is because they can afford a huge HR department who has teams that specifically deal with parental leave! I guess this means they are expected to set the bar in hope for other companies to hopefully follow, however how can you ask the same for a 100 man company for example?

RedMarauder · 25/05/2021 15:06

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz

Interesting that £152 per week is seen as "ludicrous" when discussed in terms of fathers taking leave but the vast majority of women only ever got this on maternity leave.
Which is why I went back to work early and my DP took his enhanced paid parental leave.

Not all men are the higher earners in families.

pizzanoodle · 25/05/2021 16:23

COMPLETELY AGREE. We need equal parental pay in terms of enhanced paid leave from our employer. My husband is older than me and earns more but he gets only 2 weeks of paid leave. He wants to take more leave and I want to go back to work but we can't afford to.

Why is there such gender inequality enforced by policy????

SisterA · 25/05/2021 16:36

I think this approach would be so much better than the current set up. We did use shared parental leave - my husband took the first three months off with me on maternity leave and I struggled so much. It worked for us because I’d always planned to go back to work at 9 months regardless.

What we did struggle with was the massive drop in pay. As previous posters have mentioned - my pay was enhanced. The only way we were able to afford it was because we had sold a house and had adequate savings but we used it ALL whilst on leave to pay bills & do the food shop.

We both appreciated that the TIME was there but I struggle to see how it would benefit people on a lower income as we are on relatively good salaries (not great) and I don’t think we could afford to do it again if we didn’t have a good chunk of money set aside to cover the missing salary for 3 months.

EBearhug · 25/05/2021 16:39

I believe that in Sweden paternity wasn’t really socially accepted 20 years ago whereas it now is viewed as normal.

It's properly paid for, and I believe Swedish colleague said they got an extra month if they both took a minimum amount of the leave (can't remember the details of the minimum threshold.)

For most couples in the UK, it's just a financial decision , and until that changes, they can't afford to decide to cut their income so much.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 25/05/2021 16:55

My DH working from home has really helped him to bond with DD2. We FF so could have done shared parental leave but I wouldn’t have wanted to go back to work with DD2 so young. Being on leave at the same time would have been perfect. DH gets 4 weeks paid paternity and he’s using his last two for my two weeks back at work before the summer holidays.

Our main issue is the pay. We are currently scraping by on very minimal maternity pay and that only lasts a few more weeks for me. I’m going back to work much earlier than I’d like because we need the money. I’m a teacher so work for the council and therefore the government. However, I have a friend who works for the government in a different sector and gets 6m full pay and then 3m half pay. How does that work out?

BraveBraveMouse · 25/05/2021 17:12

We really wanted to do SPL, but didn't. The reason being that my employer made me take my 6 weeks accrued annual leave at the end of maternity leave. SPL has to follow on from when the mat leave ends, there can't be a break. So we would have both been at home together for that 6 weeks and we felt like DD would have lost out on 6 weeks of parental time. There would also have been the extra 6 weeks nursery fees, which would have been an issue for some, but for us it was that when they are so little, every day at home with a parent rather than at nursery counts.

Sertadopt · 25/05/2021 18:37

SPL is not just an alternative to maternity leave but is also an alternative choice to the default adoption leave arrangements (which are the same as maternity leave in that one parent is eligible and the other qualifies for paternity leave only). I realise people in this situation are a minority but that isn’t to say it’s not important.

ZoBo123 · 25/05/2021 18:47

We looked into it but couldn't afford the drop in money. I think the reason it isn't used is purely financial. The number of people who enjoyed their time at home during furlough shows there is probably a demand for it if it was paid time

Redwinestillfine · 25/05/2021 19:09

See for me it would only have worked if he could be off at the same time as me. I would not have given up any of my maternity so he could have had time at home. Selfish as that sounds. I would have resented it too much. Going back to work and leaving y baby has hard enough Blush

claireb7rg · 25/05/2021 19:09

@Sertadopt

SPL is not just an alternative to maternity leave but is also an alternative choice to the default adoption leave arrangements (which are the same as maternity leave in that one parent is eligible and the other qualifies for paternity leave only). I realise people in this situation are a minority but that isn’t to say it’s not important.
This

We are going through adoption process and are looking at spl.
I'm the higher earner and get 6 months full pay so will do the first 6 months and partner will do the 2nd 6 months.

I am able to work from home as well so can be around for longer when I am back to work.

TolkiensFallow · 25/05/2021 21:11

We tried to take it, both employed by the public sector so work base policies supported us to take it. However baby and mama weren’t ready to be separated when the time came and dad knew this. So we cancelled it. The mother baby dyad just doesn’t always have space for policy and procedure.

NeurologicallySpeaking · 25/05/2021 22:39

We have used it successfully. I took 39 weeks and DP took the remaining to take it up to the year. I had to take some of mine unpaid which was more financially beneficial to us as his enhanced SPL was very generous indeed.

Depends on the family but I don't resent my partner for taking some of 'my' entitlement while I am back to work. Has meant I am not out of the workplace for quite so long so less impact on my career and DD and DH have a great bond. 9 months was enough to recover from a C section completely.

He is exhausted though and totally understands that parental leave is bloody hard and repetitive and not a holiday!

Of course I would support more leave for men and having to make the schemes comparable(my own workplace pays lower SPL than enhanced mat pay) but just wanted to say that for us it worked and we were happy with the outcome. Most men I work with are taking SPL when have a child although I appreciate that is not the norm.

CovoidOfAllHumanity · 26/05/2021 02:56

It wasn't around when I could have used it and DH is self employed anyway

But I am such a huge supporter of proper shared parental leave and indeed shared parenting and I would hate to see even this tiny but that we have achieved be taken away. The scheme needs to be improved not taken away altogether. It would be hugely regressive for women if this was taken away.

I have been really pleased to see younger male colleagues in the NHS taking SPL and sharing some of the career hit rather than leaving it all to their wives. Those who do also seem more likely to then work LTFT rather than the expectation being all on the woman to do that. We really need it to be normalised that good fathers take responsibility for caring for their children.
Then we might actually see the wage gap being closed and real equality of opportunity for women at work rather than the glass ceiling that still remains.

Hoowhoowho · 26/05/2021 10:17

I would allocate every parent six months on 35 hours of minimum wage pay or 100% of earnings whichever is the lower, which employers could enhance and an extra six months on low statutory pay for the mother. Families could then take up to 18 months leave total or 12 months on ok pay if each parent took six months. It would make a year’s parental leave affordable for low income families and higher paid families would supplement as now or benefit from enhanced pay packages.

If cost is an issue, it could,like current benefits policy,be limited by number of children with only an entitlement to leave but not pay for third or subsequent children.

For employers it would start to equalise the disadvantage of employing women over men and make the family penalty apply to both