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Guest post: Nicky Morgan – "Strike action will harm children's education"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 05/07/2016 10:05

I am disappointed that the National Union of Teachers has chosen the path of disruption over negotiation and discussion. I believe this strike action is unnecessary and counterproductive – it will harm children's education, inconvenience parents and damage the profession's reputation in the eyes of the public.

We are already in regular and constructive talks with the NUT and, as I said when I attended the first meeting in May, I am committed to these talks and firmly hope that they will be meaningful and productive. Rather than playing politics with children's futures over the issue of pay and conditions, I urged the NUT to reconsider this damaging industrial action. Instead we should all be focused on giving children the best start in life and spreading educational excellence everywhere.

It has been clearly outlined in our conversations that the removal of unnecessary workload for teachers is a priority for this government , and our extensive work with the NUT, along with the wider profession, is helping to ensure that teachers can concentrate on what they do best.

The NUT has said that the Government has the wrong priorities for teachers, schools and children. To suggest we aren't prioritising school funding is disingenuous; the significance we place on education is demonstrated by the fact that we are investing more than any previous government on our schools. This year the schools budget will total around £40billion, an increase of around £4billion since 2011-12, so it is now the highest it has ever been. Additionally, the schools budget has been protected in real terms going forward. At a time when other areas of spending are having to be reduced in order to control the public finances, education has rightly been protected, reflecting precisely where our priorities lie.

It is also disappointing that the underpinning basis for this strike seems to be teacher pay. Average teacher pay is £37,800. Last week's school workforce figures showed that teaching continues to be an attractive career with more teachers in our schools than ever before – 15,000 more since 2010 – demonstrating how many people relish the prospect of a career where they can transform lives every day.

Under the academy system, schools have more flexibility to reward teachers for their hard work, allowing them to keep their best staff and recruit the brightest talent. We remain committed to our vision for an academy-run system where the best school leaders are free to innovate and run their schools how they choose. This commitment is fully funded. Taking the Spending Review and the Budget together, we have set aside the funding to support a high quality, school system where every school is an academy. Overall, we have made £600 million available in this Parliament to build capacity – including recruiting excellent sponsors and encouraging the development of strong multi-academy trusts.

Teachers are integral to our vision of delivering educational excellence everywhere and, thanks to their hard work, over 1.4 million more children are in good or outstanding schools than in August 2010. We will always listen and discuss legitimate concerns within the sector and try to resolve them as quickly and fairly as possible.

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BitOutOfPractice · 06/07/2016 05:21

I would almost admire Nicky Rogers brass neck for coming back for another kicking on MN if I didn't believe that brass neck was, in fact, bare faced arrogance.

Nicky you have no interest in engaging with parents. No interest in their views. Stop trying to pretend you do. Frankly it's embarrassing.

BitOutOfPractice · 06/07/2016 05:30

And yes MN, this is the second time in only a few months that you have given NR free rein to proclaim to us plebs without bothering to engage at all. Very poor show I think MN

Peppatina · 06/07/2016 05:46

It's impossible for anyone to be this clueless.

Is this just a new way for Torys to reduce the state?

You'll make state education so horrendous that people pull out their children to homeschool them?

Only the poorer families with no choice but to both work will suffer, not that they matter anyway right Nik?

vickyors · 06/07/2016 07:50

I apologise, but I must protest.

37,000 a year??? I'm a head of department and I'm paid £34,000. I manage a team of 10. Most of my colleagues will be on around £30,000, at the top of the pay scale, and after 8 years of teaching. Starting teacher's wage, after at least 4 years of degree level and post grad training, is £19,000. It all depends on your area. Perhaps in London an 'ordinary' teacher can reach such dizzying heights of finance, but not elsewhere.

Plus, strike is not about pay. It's that our classes are now only funded to have one teacher per 34 students! I have taught a class with 40 students in it.

Plus, with the breakdown of the local authority system, free schools and academies choose not (or don't have the funds) to assess for autism, or dyslexia, or to offer gifted and talented support. Schools aren't employing music teachers, and there are no local authority peripatetic teachers. The only funds available are for the absolute basics. Then, when students do badly, government blames the schools.

Apologies for the tone, but to simply not understand the issue is not good enough for an education minister. When I teach a new topic, or lead a change in my department, I do my research. I wish the education minister would do the same.

vickyors · 06/07/2016 07:52

What is wonderful about this is the support for teachers on this thread. That, indeed, is heartwarming.

Slippersandacuppa · 06/07/2016 08:15

Another couple of points.

-I wonder how many children of conservative MPs go to state funded primary schools?

-When employing someone to head up an area of business within a company, is it not normal to appoint someone with relevant experience? For example, Head of HR - can't see someone unqualified and with no experience of working in HR making the grade. Why is it different in politics? I signed a petition a while ago requesting that the next Secretary for Education must have been a teacher or head in their previous working life. Common sense?

Claraoswald36 · 06/07/2016 09:27

The silver lining here is the utterly United support of teachers on this thread. Proud of mn Flowers

BathshebaDarkstone · 06/07/2016 09:31

A 1 day strike will not harm children's education. If so, what damage did 5 days off sick do to my DD's education last term? Or 14 days off sick at a time when DS1 was at school? Hmm

Mishaps · 06/07/2016 10:56

Just a quick extra remark on the subject of SATs - my DGD had been worrying about these for the preceding 18 months! How do you expect children to learn when they are anxious?

ChoudeBruxelles · 06/07/2016 13:03

Nicky Morgan should just f*!k off. How much harm has her government done to children's education with ridiculous tests and constant pressure on kids.

CrowyMcCrowFace · 06/07/2016 13:44

Nicky can't damage my children's education any more.

Because I took them, & my 16 years' experience of teaching a core subject, to a lovely international school, who were delighted to give me a salary which is the equivalent of earning £55k in the UK, plus a house, & most importantly, all our lives back.

To paraphrase dear old Oscar, if this is how England treats its teachers, it simply doesn't deserve to have any.

Needless to say I support the strike.

BlueEyeshadow · 06/07/2016 14:21

The fact that Nicky Morgan came back after her last thread disaster pretty much proves that she didn't read any of the responses. So why are MN allowing her a political platform again?!

ClaudetteWyms · 06/07/2016 14:23

Only Nicky and her party's ridiculous policies are harming my children's education.

I totally supported yesterday's strike action.

Offred · 06/07/2016 17:29

I absolutely support the strikes. The only ones harming my childrens' education are the Tory government.

CatOnMyLap · 06/07/2016 17:49

the schools budget has been protected in real terms going forward

Utter rubbish. My DS little school (240 kids, eight classes from nursery to yr 6) is having to cut FOUR teaching assistant posts.

removal of unnecessary workload for teachers is a priority for this government

Again, total rubbish. My DS can't pick up his pencil in class without having his learning objective documented and assessed

I know the strike is a real pain for some parents but I totally support the teachers. Nicky Morgan was on the radio yesterday saying kids don't support the strike, but for the record my DS had a fantastic day out in the sun with his dad and a water pistol and said the teachers should strike every day!

AndNowItsSeven · 06/07/2016 18:00

My dd age 5 went to see the secret life of pets with her year 12 sister, she too loved the strike.

MrsPnut · 06/07/2016 18:01

I fully support the teachers, children especially those in Yr 5 and 6 have been failed by the Conservative Government and Gove/Morgan in particular.

The English language is a brilliant tool and who would want a world without the writings of Spike Milligan, Roald Dahl and Dr Seuss? Yet their work doesn't contain a noun phrase, a fronted adverbial and more inference than you can handle. How are we going to encourage the next generation of writers when the prescripted way of writing is so boring and narrow.

Batteriesallgone · 06/07/2016 18:30

Threads like this make a bit of a mockery of Mumsnet.

Mumsnet do a guest post. Members say fuck off. No responses, no follow up from Mumsnet.

Clearly therefore Mumsnet is irrelevant. Way to put all the little housewives back in their box Angry

Offred · 06/07/2016 18:32

Nicky Morgan - 🙈🙉

If only she would 🙊 too....

KateMumsnet · 06/07/2016 19:42

Hi all

We've been back to Nicky Morgan's office again today to ask if either Nicky or someone from her team could come back to the thread, as has been discussed in the run up to the guest post. Unfortunately they are now unable to confirm that will be happening. As we've said previously, we always encourage guest posters to engage on the thread and in this instance, we were even more 'encouraging' than usual.

It''s not something that we can enforce, alas - but on balance we think there are nevertheless benefits to guest posts like these, particularly when, as in this instance, the opposing argument is put very clearly in a companion post. Thanks for all your thoughts though - it's food for thought and we'll keep them in mind if/when similar situations arise again.

Londonmamabychance · 06/07/2016 19:52

Mumsnet, if the poster has no intention to engage with the thread, the page is just a mouthpiece for their propaganda. It's not needed here, as we can read Nicky Morgan's views easily in all mainstream media outlets.

Asprilla11 · 06/07/2016 20:31

Slippersandacuppa

When employing someone to head up an area of business within a company, is it not normal to appoint someone with relevant experience? For example, Head of HR - can't see someone unqualified and with no experience of working in HR making the grade. Why is it different in politics? I signed a petition a while ago requesting that the next Secretary for Education must have been a teacher or head in their previous working life. Common sense?

It shouldn't be any different, you're right and this is something I have thought for a long time.

If you want to be an MP to help the local community and the UK as a whole on things you believe in then that's fine.

However if you have a desire to be a cabinet minister and a realistic chance of being one or even a shadow cabinet minister then I believe there should be additional criteria you must meet before being appointed.
So before becooming an MP you will have had a passion for that particular area of Politics, so Education for example you will have studied or worked in Education, at least a history of being a School Gouverner would be better than nowt! In terms of Defence you should have studied military history or served in the military/, or had a family history or worked for a company connected to the military.

It is ridiculous that you could be Minister of Sport and then after a shuffle you could be Minister of Defence, or Transport etc etc. In charge of budgets of millions and billions of pounds in areas that you have no knowledge of or even an interest in!

I'd rather Cabinet MP's were professional, qualified and passionate about their chosen area of 'expertise', if they were I'd actually happily pay them more.

BitOutOfPractice · 06/07/2016 23:07

Katemumsnet unless you very clearly link the two threads together at the time, it's not as clear as you think it is to the average MNer.

Sadly, from my perspective, you have allowed Nicky a clear propaganda platform twice now in recent months. Neither time has she felt the need to engage. Quite simply MN has allowed her to come here and lecture is twice with no come back. It feels very much like she's calling the tunes with you, not your members. It's very disappointing.

Clearly you need to be much much firmer in future. Because you are serving your members very badly by allowing MN to be the governent's mouthpiece like this.

Very disappointing.

babynearlyhere · 07/07/2016 09:12

WAKE UP NICKY. I, like others, have a pre-schooler due to start school in September 2017. I, like others, am seriously considering home-schooling as the more I read accounts from parents, teachers and ignorant and blinkered politicians, the more I fear for my child's education.
It's the 'we know best' patronising attitude of a government that absolutely does not know best and could never know best as they don't have the experience to 'know best'. I'm repeating others but until there is an education minister who has experience of working at several levels in the education sector, nothing will change.

Although she hasn't responded (no surprise), I am actually glad MN put this post on as it has allowed me as a parent to have more insight into what is actually going on. The fact that she has not responded just reinforces the disregard many politicians have for real people's opinions.

Offred · 07/07/2016 12:00