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Guest post: "As a deputy head, these are my fears about academisation"

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KateMumsnet · 17/03/2016 11:11

Not a single school in the country closes at 3.30pm. In every town and village there is a mighty army of indomitable teachers and teaching assistants who, rather than allow extensive testing regimes to deprive children of art, music and sport, put aside their exhaustion to lead extra-curricular clubs, choirs and workshops after the bell has gone.

If you've ever worked in an office where you occasionally had to do big presentations that took hours to prepare, imagine having to deliver five hours' worth of those presentations every day to 30 people. Then you have to prove they've all understood exactly what you were saying.

Imagine if you then had to use your spare time to prepare more presentations as well as providing personalised written feedback to every participant. Then imagine conducting an orchestra or refereeing football matches for dozens of excited children at the end of it all.

Still, if George Osborne is going to give a bit of money to a small minority of schools so they can fund their after-school clubs slightly more generously, then fine. It's a start.

That was one of the main education stories of the Budget: a bit of extra money to fund extra-curricular clubs that already exist. But there was another announcement, one that looked liked the privatisation of the entire state education system.

The Budget announcement that between now and 2020 all schools, whether they like it or not, will be forced to become part of an "academy chain" means they will be privately controlled but publicly funded. You, the voter, will have no say over how schools are run - but you will still have to pay for them out of your taxes. This brings an end to the system of democratically controlled, locally accountable education which was introduced 114 years ago so that every child in the land could go to school, rather than down the mines or up the chimneys.

The announcement comes as no surprise to many teachers. Indeed, most schools have already taken steps to protect themselves from being overtaken by a large, corporate behemoth, usually by forming trusts and clusters with other local schools that can be turned into less sinister academy chains with relative ease.

But what will this mean for your children? Well, if all schools are academies then, in some ways, no schools are academies. Academies have always been defined by the ways they differ from their local authority-controlled counterparts: they're unconstrained by the national curriculum, they have to find their own HR and legal services and they have considerably more freedom over admissions. If these "distinctions" are applied to all schools, then what the government will actually be doing is abolishing the national curriculum (a bizarre new version of which was introduced in 2014, creating a great deal of now seemingly pointless work), taking away legal and HR support from schools that still feel they need it, and causing considerable confusion around the admissions process.

The curriculum is a moot point in the primary phase. Nowadays we live or die by our pupils' KS2 assessment results and, sadly, it's the content of those high-stakes tests that dictates what children learn between the ages of five and 11. The removal of HR and legal services could be a problem for many smaller primary schools and I worry that their leadership teams will be forced to spend more time addressing those matters rather than addressing the needs of their pupils.

But what is really unclear, and a little scary, is what it will mean for admissions. There already exists a chaotic and confused landscape around school places. Many academies already appear to discriminate against lower-achieving pupils and their families, even though they're not really supposed to, by claiming they are "unable to meet their needs." What will happen if all the schools in an area, now granted the freedom to do so, start discriminating in the same way? What will happen to the children no one dares accept, lest they bring down their test scores? My biggest fear is that local authorities will be forced to hastily set up large numbers of pupil referral units and special schools to educate all the children no one else will take, creating an underclass segregated by ability before they've reached their fifth birthdays.

There's no evidence that academies are any better or any worse than local authority schools in terms of educational outcomes - so the big question for most teachers I speak to is this: why take such a big gamble with our young people's futures? Whatever the explanation, it's hard to believe the government really has children's best interests at heart.

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BeaufortBelle · 19/03/2016 08:06

I thought we needed more pupil referral units. Surely that's a good result and means the majority of children can receive a high quality education with minimal disruption
. When my DD attended a state school there was a minority of girls in her year who were responsible for theft, assault, pyromania, constant disruption, etc. That sort of behaviour does more to destroy education than removing it from centralised control. As parents we could do nothing in any event. The head wouldn't act; the governors were puppets, the LA Sai it was the responsibility of the head and the governors.

114 years ago was 2012. I don't think children were going up chimneys then. They were perhaps going down the mine at 14 and this country continues to grieve for the closure of the mines. DH's grandad ran away from one by joining the army on his 18th birthday. The idealists can't have it both ways

There is no say over LA education departments. The local councillors might change but the salaried officers do not. The LA can only advise about HR and finance - it is still the heads job to manage staff and budgets. I can think of a handful of staff in each of the two state schools my dc have attended who didn't perform well and should have been terminated years before. Heads didn't deal with it but hid behind the la due to the lack of action. The LA won't let me - yes probably because they had never managed it.

crappymummy · 19/03/2016 08:20

Lol at beaufortbelle reporting from the future

Let us know how it all turned out would you

babyinthacorner · 19/03/2016 08:31

Instead it seems that it will be open season for various Tory cronies to profit without any proper oversight, which is terrifying, because this is our educational system at stake.

^This.

I work in a tiny school in a great LEA (Camden) and our head compared our situation to that of an independent store on a high street, fighting to stop themselves from being taken over by Starbucks or McDonalds.

It really is that simple. I don't know of anyone who is 'unhappy' working in an academy, but why would they be? At the moment, academies are honouring the teachers' pay and conditions. Once all schools are academies, the p&c won't exist anymore, and that's when the problems will start. Oh, and it won't matter if there's a teacher shortage - they don't need to employ qualified teachers to teach.

And don't even get started on the title deeds. Michael Rosen puts it more eloquently than I ever could.
michaelrosenblog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/gove-nicked-our-schools-and-handed-them.html?m=1

lljkk · 19/03/2016 08:48

I don't really understand why academies would have wonderful leaders for same schools that before had bad leaders.

How did the schools previously get so stuck with bad leaders?

What does academization do that will mean only good leaders sit in post in future?

How can anyone be so sure both ways?

Is there something about academization that will help redress the recruitment crisis in head teachers & math teachers? I imagine unqualified teachers, for a start.

Stopsteiner · 19/03/2016 09:07

So-called 'faith schools' are increasing in number under the academies route and this I consider a bad thing. Not only this but some schools are forced to become part of academy chains run by churches. Parents who do not want their child indoctrinated with religion sometimes have little choice in the matter, if their local schools have been taken over.

Another worrying aspect of academies is that they are allowed to employ unqualified teachers; there has been a move to encourage unqualified staff to train on the job, but since some (in Steiner and other religious schools for example) do not even have A levels this would be a long and difficult path.
stopsteinerinstroud.com/2014/08/25/professionalism-of-teachers/

BeaufortBelle · 19/03/2016 09:08

I imagine market supplements for maths teachers! Dd's ht was on £110,000. For that I expect high standards and someone able to run a school due to intellect and experience.

Ragusa · 19/03/2016 09:14

No that is not correct about there being no route to force an academy to take a child with a dtatement or EHCP. There is now case law and the Secretary of State can direct admission in any case.

lljkk · 19/03/2016 09:18

Friend teaches on PGCSE courses... she said that govt. is pushing really hard to move teacher training to be all within schools, and only haven't done it so far because of lack of capacity. I guess with students watching videos at home or summat like that for theory aspects. So maybe an income stream for academies would be to take over more teacher training.

lljkk · 19/03/2016 09:57

(PGCE I think I meant)

I'm confused. So Academies don't have to follow National Curriculum. Why has govt. just invested so much in imposing new curriculum that existing academies don't have to follow & future academies may drop like hot potato.

Is that a huge waste of resources?

DramaQueenofHighCs · 19/03/2016 10:33

Bolegnaise I think the point here is that academies should exist and conversion to an academy should be readily available to schools that want it - by why force this on schools where it is not needed or wanted? That is my issue here.
I have seen great academies and I have seen great LEA schools, likewise I have seen sub standard of both too. Academies should be an option - but forcing academy status on schools is not the answer. They are just 'different' not necessarily better, not necessarily worse.

DramaQueenofHighCs · 19/03/2016 10:35

Oh and for the sake of argument - while the ability to employ unqualified teachers does worry me, one of the best teachers I have ever worked with and who got the best results out of their students (particularly SEN) was an unqualified maths teacher!! She was amazing.

DramaQueenofHighCs · 19/03/2016 10:38

And what about school holidays of there are no 'set dates'? Would play havoc with childcare and booking family holidays!! (For example what of the school I worked in had different holidays from my DS's school. I can't take time off in term time so would have to pay for a childminder.)

lljkk · 19/03/2016 10:52

Will academisation be a great thing because govt can't keep imposing new curricula from high? So although SATs & GCSE goalposts will keep changing, the schools can finally stabilise other parts of the curriculum??

PrettyBrightFireflies · 19/03/2016 11:52

And what about school holidays of there are no 'set dates'? Would play havoc with childcare and booking family holidays!!

Two years ago, the legislation changed so that all state schools could set their own term dates independent of the LA.
There was lots of wailing and gnashing of teeth, saying, as you have, that it would cause havoc in families.
It didn't happen. Apart from a few odd days here and there, schools generally stuck to what the LA published. HT in local areas talk to each other.
The legislation has changed again now - primarily to ensure that LAs align with schools!

DramaQueenofHighCs · 19/03/2016 11:58

The point is though that with academies I worry that HT's won't talk to eachother!
I'm not 'anti-academy' though, far from it! I'm anti- forced academy. Big difference there!

PrettyBrightFireflies · 19/03/2016 12:01

The point is though that with academies I worry that HT's won't talk to eachother!

Don't worry - it'll be the same HT's working in the schools - there's no reason to think they'll suddenly become isolationists!
Since the secondaries in my area became part of MATs (not all the same sponsor) they are working much closer together than when they were under the failing LA.

jaygee53 · 19/03/2016 13:05

I worry that academisation will lead to less influence for parents and far greater centralisation - something the conservatives always used to be against. I also fear that there will be even greater pressure on our teachers whose lives are already blighted by pointless and counter productive bureaucracy. To support #Education #savechildhood and for #HumanityInEducation please sign and retweet. Thanks.

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BeaufortBelle · 19/03/2016 14:21

Bearing in mind how many poor, fully qualified teachers there are I don't think the fully qualified argument holds as much weight as educationalists say. There could be much more training on the job and just because people have the qualification, it doesn't mean they can teach. I remember a teacher at my dcs school who was hopeless - utterly hopeless. The head went on maternity and the deputy let the newly qual hopeless teacher pass her probation otherwise she'd not have been able to stay in teaching after all that training. She shouldn't have been in teaching in the first place and thus was allows to make a further 60 children miserable because it took the head that long to get shot of her. The children would have been better off with a teaching assistant or rota of mums.

I'm all for teachers having better t&cs but let's not forget why some of the bureacracy was introduced. It was because some schools were just not doing their best for the children.

jaygee53 · 19/03/2016 14:47

Changing all schools into academies wasn't in the Conservatives manifesto and needs to be debated.

DramaQueenofHighCs · 19/03/2016 14:51

Beaufort completely agree with you re: qualified teachers! That's why I put in the bit I did about the maths teacher! She was honestly amazing and our SENCO used to request that our SEN children were put in her classes as they made the best progress with her. She was far better than many qualified teachers I have come across!
But then again teacher qualifications SHOULDNT matter, it should be their skills that matter, both in the subject and their teaching style.

jaygee53 · 19/03/2016 14:54

I agree that 'unqualified' teachers can be excellent. I mean unqualified in the sense of not having a PGCE or teaching qualification. I think teachers should be graduates though especially at secondary level.

jaygee53 · 19/03/2016 15:04

Yes I agree - I am not anti academy per se but feel that the British electorate need much more time to reflect on the issue. Also the academy concept has been largely modelled on the USA's charter schools. Who is to say that the US model is the best for us to follow here in the UK? There have been some very high profile and well documented disasters among US charter schools as well as some massive bankruptices. What about other models such as schools in Finland and Germany? There needs to be much more discussion and parents, teachers and educators views need to be listened to. Children are not widgets and what works in other areas of business does not necessarily work in the school system - especially at primary level.

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PrettyBrightFireflies · 19/03/2016 16:29

I keep seeing parents suggesting Finland as a model to emulate - the irony is that parents have far less involvement in their DCs education there than is written into legislation here.

For all its faults, we in England do have the legal right to complain about our schools and the quality and standards in schools are inspected and reported to parents.

Finland gets better results, but the voices of parents are effectively silenced; they are expected to contribute to their DCs learning in ways the school sets out.

Stopsteiner · 19/03/2016 20:58

Interesting that East Asian countries consistently have the top education results in the world yet no-one in this country seems to want to emulate their methods; for example children in South Korea (top of the table) often attend school 7 days a week and do homework from a young age according to this report
www.mbctimes.com/english/20-best-education-systems-world

Finland and Sweden are both down from their previous positions.

There are many factors to consider, not least the respect teaching receives as a profession in a given country.

lljkk · 19/03/2016 21:31

No I don't want my kids to go to school 7 days a week South Korean style. That's not what's on offer, anyway.

Never mind the ways international comparisons get manipulated.

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