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Guest post: "I fear the eradication of Down's syndrome"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 16/11/2015 17:29

On the day Natty was born, I wasn't sure I was up to being her mother. Ignorance took over. Everything I thought I knew about Down's syndrome was a smattering of outdated stereotypes, all of which have subsequently been proved wrong.

In eight years, we have come so far as a family, risen to challenges, endured heart surgery, made adjustments and learnt to slow our pace and live in the moment. I wouldn't change any of it. I am a better person now. The pregnant woman I was, whose heart was filled with fear at the words Down's syndrome, now shakes her head in disbelief.

I've been bleary-eyed over research for this post. And, in fact, as I rose at 5.30am, drafts of what I would write very much in my mind, there was one member of our busy household who noticed my pensiveness. Natty drew me down to her face level, looked intuitively at me and said 'It's OK Mummy.'

I held her so tight, and made a silent promise into her warm hair, a promise that I would do my best to convey her worth to the world.

Because while we praise advances in healthcare and women's control over their reproductive lives, there is an important ethical debate I fear is being overlooked.

A new non-invasive prenatal test (NIPT) could help identify women whose babies have Down's syndrome. The test involves taking a sample of blood from the mother and it uses this to detect the baby's DNA.

At the moment, the NIPT test is available privately, but it could soon be rolled out by the NHS as part of their population screening programme. The UK National Screening Committee has just ended consultation over offering it - it can only be added to the programme if there is a beneficial reason for doing so.

However, there is no health gain in diagnosing Down's syndrome during pregnancy. It cannot be treated or prevented. It simply allows parents to decide whether to continue a pregnancy to term or not.

There are ethical implications to genetic testing, but no easy answers. The UNESCO International Bioethics Committee says that genetic testing can offer women the right of choice. However, it could also become routine that ill or disabled children are not to given the choice of birth at all.

So giving women choice whilst not devaluing individuals with Down's syndrome is a fine line to tread.

We must ensure that parents are given unbiased, updated information in order to make informed choices. There can be no assumption that those with Down's syndrome are not compatible with life - or worse, that they are too costly to have a right to life.

We are promised that the new NIPT can allow parents to be prepared for their baby's arrival and that it will not increase termination rates. However, in countries where Down's syndrome screening has been standard for years, termination rates stand at almost 100%. Are these tests being sold as a kind form of early euthanasia to trusting expectant parents - and will a whole genetic group of people be targeted in the process?

The support networks we have in place simply aren't as sophisticated as the genetic tests being considered. We must explain test implications and outcomes, support those who choose a termination and give equal care to those who choose to continue their pregnancies. We need charities that aren't partnered with the test manufacturers.

If parents are rushed into terminations, or asked repeatedly if they would like to end their pregnancies, then we are certainly sending out the message that some lives are worth a great deal less than others.

We need the screening committee to welcome input from parental groups and self-advocates. We need to match up the wonderful examples of best practice by bringing committed midwives and learning disability nurses together, and we need to accept the value of difference.

Society has come a long way from the days when children with Down's syndrome were institutionalised with little or no love, educational support or quality healthcare. We hope Natty will find employment she enjoys, have a partner of her choosing, a social life fuller than ours and live a long, healthy life independently with support.

I cannot bear to think that one day I will have to explain to Natty why others think her adored life is not worth living, or even justify her very existence. But here I am, already doing just that.

And, most of all, I fear that one day I will be grieving, as others celebrate the eradication of all children like my beautiful daughter. No Natty, maybe it's not OK.

The BBC is making a documentary about Down's syndrome, which Hayley Gowleniowska is contributing to. If you are affected by the tests and interested in an initial off-the-record research chat, please contact Clare at [email protected].

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Stillwishihadabs · 18/11/2015 05:53

That is a beautiful post Orange. I agree with you having aworked with dcs with neurodevelopmental conditions for many years our lives and our society would be poorer without these individuals. The majority of neurodisability cannot be screened for (prematurity, ASD,CP). Young people with trisomy 21 generally have very mild problems when compared to the SEN population . I did have testing in my 1st pregnancy (I was young and did what I was told). During my 2nd I was offred CVS and refused as you can't screen for the most life-limiting conditions and I would never terminate a pregnancy for t21.

The young people I have had the privilege of caring for with t21 many of them are not wonderful despite the trisomy, but because of it.

Stillwishihadabs · 18/11/2015 06:02

Sorry meant to add you couldn't "take the trisomy away" and leave them as them it is part of who they are.
BTw I am pro-choice, but do see the agony caused by infertility daily and therefore would think long and hard before terminating for IMO a minor disabily.

CheerfulYank · 18/11/2015 06:05

I haven't RTFT but I do sort of think you can be "pro choice BUT". In the book expecting Adam, the author (upon learning the baby she's carrying has DS) says " this isn't 'should we have a baby or not', this is 'what kind of baby am I willing to accept?'".

I got the tests though I would not have terminated for any reason. My cousin has DS and his parents didn't find out beforehand. Some people were so negative and shocked when he was diagnosed soon after birth and I didn't want that for my own, if it was to be.

Because if they'd known what kind of boy he was going to be, what a joy, what a shining star in our family, they'd have felt nothing but thrilled. And I hate that Ben's birth was overshadowed for even a minute. So for me, I'd rather find out before hand and let people go through whatever they're going to.

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Toffeelatteplease · 18/11/2015 07:50

Because one persons an experience is wonderful doesn't guarentee everyone's experience will be, anymore than the other way round.

Which is why the decision is also individual and why what is chosen isn't a comment on the condition as there are many factors that come into that decision.

Unfortunately an article like this is less a am impartial commentary but an opportunity to validate ones own choices at the expense of others. It is a real shame and bound to engender a lot of hurt on both sides of the argument

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/11/2015 08:00

I'd be surprised if more than a couple of people on this thread had made the active choice to have a child with a disability

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Stillwishihadabs · 18/11/2015 08:06

I also think in the case of t21, it isn't so much a disability as a genetic variant like blue eyes (also a mutation), which wouldn't have persisted if it didn't have quite a lot of positive traits. I have read that individuals with t21 are born to women at the end of their reproductive life as a sort of built in home help with grandchildren and care for the parents. (Not saying I believed this BTW as many people with t21 choosevto live independently and have their own families)

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Stillwishihadabs · 18/11/2015 08:13

And the sad thing is the more t21 pregnancies that are terminated, the less direct experience most people will have and therefore , more fear.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/11/2015 08:14

Built in home help? Really?

LyndaNotLinda · 18/11/2015 08:28

The only two people I know with DS have had to have endless operations to manage serious heart conditions. There are a whole host of other complications too.

And built-in home help. Words fail me, truly

Shesinfashion · 18/11/2015 08:33

I work in a large special needs school. Out of 400 pupils there are only 4 with DS. I believe this condition will soon disappear.

OrangeNoodle · 18/11/2015 08:33

But even repeated heart operations do not a valueless or joyless life make.

Focusing on the negatives does not present a true picture of life with disability.

That is why blogs like Hayley's are so important.

zzzzz · 18/11/2015 08:35

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OrangeNoodle · 18/11/2015 08:36

Totally agree zzzz

HeteronormativeHaybales · 18/11/2015 08:44

What Owllady and devilish said.

Rather than saying 'I would terminate because I don't want my child to be trailed by a disengaged carer to a cafe', as if this were an unalterable given, why don't we insist, collectively, that disengaged carers and lack of appropriate support when it is needed are not good enough?

FWIW, no judgement here on anyone's individual decision to tfmr. I would probably have terminated if something indicativ of t18 or 13 had shown up on scans and the diagnosis been subsequently confirmed.

Toffeelatteplease · 18/11/2015 08:47

This is about being brave enough to stand up and against a pretty terrifying torrent say "this isn't our experience".

Then say that then. Say our experience of having a child with DS is wonderful and we hope more people make that choice. (Which some of the article does very well)

Don't say people's invidual decision to terminate is a commentary on value of life on every DS child.

It isn't and never should be viewed that way. It is a negative approach at the expense of anyone who has made that difficult decision.

crumblybiscuits · 18/11/2015 09:05

But even repeated heart operations do not a valueless or joyless life make.

Just a painful and most likely very short one.

Devilishpyjamas · 18/11/2015 09:06

Does a life have to be 'wonderful' to be given a chance to exist? Are people with learning disabilities only allowed to exist if they can prove beforehand that their lives will be wonderful. Do we know that the lives of our NT kids will be 'wonderful' when they're born? I know plenty of miserable people without disabilities.

LyndaNotLinda · 18/11/2015 09:08

But not everyone's experience is a happy one and it's wrong of us to ignore the voices of disabled people like my DS or Cintia69 who posted earlier this morning.

My DS doesn't want to be a poster-boy for tolerance, he just wants to be NT.

Basically, it's a very complicated and multi-faceted issue and there is no 'right' way forward - just the right way for that particular family at that particular time.

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crumblybiscuits · 18/11/2015 09:13

That's really what the entire thread has been isn't it? Wasn't the whole point that "genocide" of DS pregnancies are making DS children's lives much harder and unique/unrelatable?

Duckdeamon · 18/11/2015 09:15

"Genocide" isn't an acceptable word to use, even if you disagree with abortion in general.

CoteDAzur · 18/11/2015 09:23

I have no problem with people's decision to terminate fetuses with chromosomal abnormalities. I had amnios during both my pregnancies and would have aborted with no regrets had they shown any genetic disorders. Imho that is the rational (rather than emotional) thing to do, and that is how I like to take long-term decisions affecting my life and family.

You are confusing abortion with euthanasia and talking about 'genocide' because you don't understand that a fetus is not a baby. It is the seed that might (or might not) become a baby when delivered outside the pregnant woman.

"will a whole genetic group of people be targeted in the process?"

Down's Syndrome is a genetic disorder, not a nation or an ethnic group. It would certainly be a good thing if less babies were born with genetic disorders.

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