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Guest post: "We've set up The Women's Equality Party - and we need you"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 16/04/2015 13:57

When I was 17, I thought the world was my oyster. By the time I hit 37, I felt like a well-worn piece of grit that stood little chance of becoming a pearl, no matter how hard I tried.

These days I look at my daughters and I think about how I can open up the world for them and give them all the chances I thought I had, but didn't.

Today marks three weeks until the general election. Everyone's talking about it being a cliffhanger, but I don't see it that way. To me it seems like a foregone conclusion – a forty-something white man in a suit will be in charge again.

Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against forty-something white men. I'm married to one, for a start. He's lovely. But I suspect that the reason all the polls are showing a general lack of enthusiasm for the ballot on May 7 may be that many others like me are finding it hard to muster enthusiasm to make a choice when it seems as though we're in for a disappointment, whoever wins.

Quite often I wish I had moved back to my native Scotland, so that I could vote for the SNP's Nicola Sturgeon and a woman's take on politics. Many women I know are considering voting Green because its female leader Natalie Bennett looks like she could also offer a different perspective.

When it comes down to it, I want to vote for someone who I think cares and understands my life. Right now I don't see anyone standing for parliament in my local community who fits that bill. Neither do a great many of my friends.

So we've decided to do something about it. This isn't another ‘if only’ article. This is a call to come with us and help us change things.

We're setting up The Women's Equality Party, and we want you. And the bloke sitting beside you. Because equality for women isn't just a women's issue. When women and girls fulfill their potential, men and boys do too. A system in which 78 percent of MPs are men, and there are more men called John leading FTSE 100 companies than there are women leading those companies, disadvantages men as well as women. They're only seeing half the world and they're only living in half of it. When both sexes can live and work side by side, the whole world opens up. (And there's your oyster, my lovely girls.)

There's a whole bunch of policies to achieve equality that I've yet to see make it on to any manifesto. So the Women's Equality Party is setting out to do something about them.

We want equal pay: an end to the grim reality that because you're a woman you're probably receiving less money from your boss at the end of every month than Kevin and Gary across the office.

We want equal parenting: the opportunity for your children's dad to spend more time with them – whether paternity leave, or just sports day and the nativity play, or that day when they're ill and someone needs to stay home - without being looked at weirdly and cut out of interesting projects at work.

We want equal career opportunities: so that while dads are with the kids more often, both mums and women without kids can pursue a career without bearing the burden of expectation that they're only going to take loads of time off should they get pregnant - and thus miss out on those promotions to Kevin and Gary across the office.

And while we're at it, how about an end to violence against woman? How about an end to the lazy classification of science, building and exploring as being ‘boys' stuff’? How about the creation of an education system that creates opportunities for all girls and boys along with an understanding of why this matters?

Because it does matter. These things aren't just ‘nice to have’. They are not things that we should just get around to once we've sorted out the deficit and the NHS. They are essential.

Take the economy. Numerous research papers have proven that companies whose staff is diverse in gender and race are more likely than those without that to expand market share and capture new markets. It's the kind of performance that any company emerging from our recent recession, and any Chancellor of the Exchequer, would surely want to see.

Take society. When women and men are set up in opposition neither side wins. Instead of grinding along feeling as though the other side doesn't understand or sympathise, we can live as partners and fulfil our true potential.

And take the world of politics. With equal numbers of women and men in parliament, both sexes can govern their country to the benefit of everyone.

We can bring about change by winning – support, votes and seats. Our focus is clear and our aim is to keep attracting votes from the other parties until they embrace and adopt our agenda of equality.

Interested? The Women's Equality Party's mission statement is listed in full on their Facebook page here and they are meeting to discuss the way forward on Saturday, 5.30pm until 8pm, at the Conway Hall. You can register to attend and bring all your own ideas here.

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LynetteScavo · 19/04/2015 08:42

As sunbathe said........I remember Thatcher Grin

A party who doesn't want to focus on equality in all areas isn't for me. Sorry.

ThatBloodyWoman · 19/04/2015 10:12

Nothing about looking beyond our own nation and the struggles of women overseas?

ThatBloodyWoman · 19/04/2015 10:37

I think a party which tries to stand for womens equality needs to stand for all womens equality,not just that of the white,educated,middle classes.If someone started to really focus more on those women who have less of a voice,then I'm listening.What about women immigrants,and,what about women in the prison system and the connection between their offending and poverty,for example?

Darcey2105 · 19/04/2015 15:45

I'm middle class and white, and the shared parental leave and equal pay is of mild interest, I'd class it as a "nice to have", but how does that compare to a woman being killed every 3 days in the UK by her partner. That's frightening, and why is no one talking about it?

There are only 275 refuges for women in the UK, and there are about 2000 refuges for animals. More government funding goes to protecting those animals than it does woman and children. There are so many massive injustices to women, and your new party has my complete support.

I hope you get the input you need to focus on saving women's lives.

Step one is getting these men out of power in my mind.

Thetruthshallsetyoufree · 19/04/2015 17:01

Houseofnerds thanks for your post.
I am a woman of colour. I am not belittling someone's efforts at fighting for equality, how ridiculous!, am highlighting the fact OP has said she is not interested in points that have been raised race, sexuality, etcwhich should be a huge part of the fight towards equality if this party is indeed representing ALL women. Let's get equality amongst women on the agenda.

Kindly pinpoint to where I declared to have superiror intellect? I don't appreciate words being put in my mouth.

The only knowledge I have is as a woman of colour oppressed by white women daily, but perhaps the message is that this party is for white women only.

houseofnerds · 19/04/2015 17:19

Or, you know, you could join. And actually give equality a hand. As a woman of colour. Instead of criticizing people making an effort becasue of their skin colour.

I have a disability. I'm not going to shit on someone's equality parade because it doesn't quite meet my specific intersectional interests. I'm going to think 'great! That would help in the long run! And then we can address all the other inequalities!'

Equally, it doesn't stop me supporting able bodied women.

Presumably I misread the condescension in your tone. Apologies. It just seemed that you were being dismissive of any form of fight towards equality if it didn't happen overnight and eradicate all forms. Real life just isn't like that, sadly. And it's a terrible thing when people give up the fight as a result, because of an all-or-nothing belief.

It's a party for women. If you feel that you need to self-censor as a woman of Colour, that's really sad. For my part, I hope they get a ton of support and eventual candidates of colour, with different abilities etc. sometimes we create our own exclusions because of our experiences, where they do not in fact exist. It's all caused by our culture, but it's our own reaction to it that is causing the issue. I'm aware this sounds sounds like victim blaming lol, but I am only talking about this concrete example.

That said, you would have to believe in equality for all women, not just women of colour. Your tone when discussing white women is creating divisions.

Peace and love, eh?

houseofnerds · 19/04/2015 17:21
Thetruthshallsetyoufree · 19/04/2015 17:51

I have a disability. I'm not going to shit on someone's equality parade because it doesn't quite meet my specific intersectional interests. I'm going to think 'great! That would help in the long run! And then we can address all the other inequalities!'

Spoken like a true white woman! The oppression of WoC can be discussed later, once we've got equality for white women sorted!

Presumably I misread the condescension in your tone. Apologies. It just seemed that you were being dismissive of any form of fight towards equality if it didn't happen overnight and eradicate all forms.

Where did I say this? Another poster asked why these items cannot be considered as well, soph replied it wasn't priority. For WoC these are entwined, so in short this party is not interested in us.

Real life just isn't like that, sadly
Yes it's very sad.

It's a party for women.

Really? It doesn't sound like it.

If you feel that you need to self-censor as a woman of Colour, that's really sad. For my part, I hope they get a ton of support and eventual candidates of colour

How will you do this if you are not interested in race, religion etc? How will this party engage WoC?

That said, you would have to believe in equality for all women, not just women of colour.

It is because I believe in equality for ALL women not just white women that I am trying to make the voice of the woman of colour heard!
I want to see that we are included in this party's agenda, it is us that is being excluded not white women!

Your tone when discussing white women is creating division
No it's not, we have always been divided, I'm just stated fact. But you carry on dipping your head in the sand, because the truth always makes you feel uncomfortable.

Peace and love, eh?
Yep!

SophRunning · 19/04/2015 19:50

We are standing for ALL womens' equality. My comments about wider equality have been misconstrued. I meant that if we were to stand as the equality for everybody in every regard party we would find it hard to achieve very much concrete change because of the enormity of the task. That's not to say that we don't want equality for everybody in every regard. But we decided that in order to get something DONE we need to focus on one area: women. And within that, we are focusing on six core policies:
• Equal representation in politics and the boardroom
• Equal pay
• Equal parenting rights
• Equality of and through education
• Equal treatment by and in the media
• An end to violence against women

That's it. Please join us.

sfranm · 19/04/2015 20:42

The meeting on Saturday was filled with energy, collaboration and real action.
The Women's Equality party has, for now, a narrow focus but this in no way means that it is narrow in its aspirations or its membership. The Women's Equality Party is, vitally, about creating a space to include and discuss intersectional issues that all contribute to the experience of women. I agree that we do not experience discrimination in the same way and it is only from acknowledging this can we build real and meaningful policies from the aims that have been stated above. A real chance for collaboration and change.

ScotsWhaHae · 19/04/2015 22:11

During, well before, the referendum in Scotland a group called Women for Independence formed and spread throughout the country with most areas now having their own group as well as the national forum. It has grown considerably even after the referendum attracting women of all, or no, political affiliation. Obviously the referendum has been and it was a no, however the groups still support the involvement of women in politics with areas holding various events in the run up to the general election such as female only hustings and educational talks on things like the economy.

Women for Independence, independence for women.

Look it up, might be of interest to the. Whilst not a political party (yet) they have caught the energy of women who are interested in local and national and international politics and women's issues.

Jackieharris · 20/04/2015 06:38

Yes, WfI is a really good model to follow.

BuffyEpistemiwhatsit · 20/04/2015 17:14

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SophRunning · 20/04/2015 18:58

Thank you all for your feedback and suggestions.

I'd like to answer Buffy, who has summed up what some of the rest of you are feeling:

We are not ignoring issues faced by women of colour. We want to discuss all the issues that contribute to the experience of women. I can't say that loudly enough. sfranm put it eloquently in her comment above: "The Women's Equality party has, for now, a narrow focus but this in no way means that it is narrow in its aspirations or its membership. The Women's Equality Party is, vitally, about creating a space to include and discuss intersectional issues that all contribute to the experience of women. I agree that we do not experience discrimination in the same way and it is only from acknowledging this can we build real and meaningful policies from the aims that have been stated above. A real chance for collaboration and change."

Speakers at our Saturday meeting included Nimko Ali and Shabnam Shabazi as well as Mandy Colleran and Stella Duffy and we are seeking as diverse a membership as possible as we construct our policies.

Re what's at the 'top' of our list - nothing is. Everything we list in terms of policy aims is of equal importance and we will tackle all of them with equal vigour. When we talk about equal pay and equal parenting and equal education and violence towards women and equal treatment in the media and equal representation in the world of politics and business, we are talking about confronting and solving issues faced by women in deprived areas too. If people have come away with the impression that we are only a party for the middle-class I can only say this: We are not.

Your comments are really helpful and encouraging. They give us a chance to keep honing our message. We want to be a broad church and we want to make life better for everyone. Because that's what real equality will do.

You can contact us at [email protected]

Mummyplus2makes1 · 22/04/2015 10:29

Mmm, wasn't Margret Thatcher a woman?!

Higgle · 23/04/2015 19:00

A massive step backwards. If all this energy was put into improving equality through the main political parties change would happen. Setting up a new party ( how much influence have the greens, UKIP etc actually got?) will not get anywhere. It will detract from womens equality when it doesn.t get a seta. If it did get a seat it has said it is a single issueparty so how would the people in the constituency be represented on employment/environment/economy etc.?

Darcey2105 · 25/04/2015 16:09

have you seen the SNP have made a woman's pledge?

events.snp.org/womenspledge

Seems to cover many of the main points you mentioned.

I hope the other parties can start talking about this more too.

Darcey2105 · 26/04/2015 10:33

Have you guys seen this organisation?

votefeminist.ukfeminista.org.uk/

This is something people can do to try and get change in this election

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GrowlyCub · 01/05/2015 02:04

Typical... we want to focus, for now, on equality for women and then we'll move on to equality for race, and sexuality and religion etc.... Well I'm gay and spiritualist and male... How will your party be working to get my vote? Simply saying that by helping women I help myself is a little nebulous, I'd like some facts.
Why not start a party which is inclusive of everyone who is not currently represented by the major political parties? You're totally right that there is room for such a party and I think it's brilliant you've had the courage to start one, but to fail before the starting pistol fires because you've given your party a very narrow agenda which alienates many like me who would be interested in supporting you, seems to be a massive wasted opportunity.
Would it really be so hard to fight for equality for both genders, for people of any race or sexuality? Surely, combined, all of us would make a greater impact in parliament? I'm tremendously disappointed by all this.

HirplesWithHaggis · 01/05/2015 02:47

I find myself more concerned with "equal parenting" - how does that work in a DA situation?

Hullygully · 01/05/2015 08:32

Then start your own, growly. Why expect someone else to do it for you?

Hullygully · 01/05/2015 08:36

It's extraordinary how many people are moaning.

If you want a different political party set up, do it.

Don't tell others they're doing it all wrong and what about the long tailed parakeets etc.

Onetwothreeoops · 01/05/2015 08:52

GrowlyCub could you clarify what you mean when you say "equality for both genders" I genuinely thought that fighting for women's equal rights would mean both genders being treated equally.

GrowlyCub · 01/05/2015 08:57

Hullygully - Instead of being sniffy, why not likewise support a push for wider equality? It's extroadinary how many people aren't checking their priviledge. Also, since when has it been illegal to ask critical questions of a political party? I would treat Labour or Conservative or Lib Dem no differently. This is not a charity or a women's support group or a special snowflake club, it's a political party. If you can't take the heat and provide strong answers to valid questions, get out of the game now.

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