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Guest post from Louise Mensch: "Tony Benn represented something truly valuable in the world"

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 14/03/2014 17:21

I was so sad to hear - via Mumsnet in fact - of the death of Tony Benn, a man I never actually met. I did once tell his son Hillary, a Labour MP, how much I admired his father - but that was a close as I got.

Tony Benn represented something truly valuable in the world. He acted on what he believed. For his love of socialism, he was prepared to walk away from a peerage, and even from the nobility of his family name. No longer Viscount Stansgate, he wouldn't even allow people to call him Anthony Wedgewood-Benn - he was to be "Tony Benn". And so he remained, until he died.

There was that rumpled, brilliant look about the man that is so endearing to our clever, messy nation. Like JRR Tolkien, whom he resembled, he loved to smoke a pipe; a particularly English vice. He drank tea, and was well-read. He seems never to have regretted walking away from "my Lord" and the bowing and scraping of the era.

Benn also possessed, as well as conviction, a great generosity of spirit. His respect and affection for Margaret Thatcher showed him to be a man who understood that political opposition does not have to, and should not, equal enmity (more Labour MPs wrote me kind notes after I resigned my seat than Conservative ones, by the way). Benn said of Thatcher "she was a signpost, not a weathervane". That was why he respected her; and it is why I respected him.

He had convictions; he lived those convictions. He was true to himself, bright, and kind. He was raised by a feminist mother, and it showed, in the best possible way. Labourlist drew my attention to his generous piece on Thatcher which told this story:

"I remember her at the funeral of MP Eric Heffer. I was asked to make a speech and as I was waiting, there was someone behind me coughing. It was Mrs Thatcher, and at the end I thanked her for coming and she burst into tears. She had come out of respect for someone whose opinions she disagreed with."

I believe that there are a great many MPs and commentators who did not share any of Benn's beliefs, but who realise today that in him, we have lost a national treasure; a genuine servant of the people, who did not need to be a nobleman, to be a noble man. May many of us involved in politics on all sides learn from his lessons of authenticity, humility, generosity, and kindness.

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claig · 16/03/2014 14:58

Clegg expects to get short shrift. He is a politician looking for votes.

Louise is not a politician, she is a private individual. She doesn't deserve to be called names when writing a tribute to someone after having been invited to by MNHQ.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 16/03/2014 14:59

Shame she was looking down the wrong end.

Please somebody who does this tweeting thing, tell the twitterati what an arse she's made of herself. Or I might have to join and I don't do technology.

teaandthorazine · 16/03/2014 15:04

claig, you are being deliberately obtuse. You know full well that your anonymous forum posts about Bob Crow are not comparable to Mensch putting her name and face to a 'tribute' piece that is then linked to on Facebook,Twitter etc etc.

Of course she is entitled to her 'opinion'. That's what Twitter is for, after all. I am asking simply whether you genuinely feel it shows 'integrity' on Mensch's part to have taken this commission from MN, to be their 'official' commentator on the the death of Tony Benn, given that her only connection to him is that she also once had the letters MP after her name?

claig · 16/03/2014 15:08

Yes. She was asked to do so. If the New Statesman asked her to do so, I think she would do it too. It is not a 'commission' in the sense that she was not paid. The people who benefitted from it were in fact Mumsnet. All she has got from it is a volley of abuse.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 16/03/2014 15:16

She was asked, and accepted though, on the basis of her being a former politician.

Come on Claigy, I know you of old, you don't believe any more than I do that this was a good idea. Or a good piece of writing.

One of the top 5 writers/orators in the world of the last 100 years gets a chick lit twitterati beauty blogger doing the eulogy.

It is like asking Joey Essex to write a piece on Mandela.

And of course whoever asked her to do it, she'd say yes. Those 15 minutes have got to be topped up, haven't they?

Christine Hamilton! She'd be good as well. She's barking, and obnoxious, and would go to the opening of an envelope if it got her into the tabs, sure, but hey, that's what this is all about no?

I rather suspect CH would also have produced something a leedle bit better though.

zoemaguire · 16/03/2014 15:19

claig that's different. Mensch was given a prominent public platform to comment. What mn thought they were doing asking her, when she'd never even met the man and is not a noteworthy politician or intellectual, is beyond me. She should have refused the gig on the grounds of not knowing him and not having nothing important to say about him.

To be honest I think she's dug her hole much deeper in her attempts at defending herself on here - 'I have 3 a-levels and a degree from oxford and you lot are losers!' And not to mention the essay prize won 25 years ago Hmm. I started out not by having particular feelings about the woman, other than thinking she was a deeply inappropriate person for mn to be asking. She's now opened my eyes as to what kind of character agrees to this sort of request!

LRDtheFeministDragon · 16/03/2014 15:20

But claig, if she were genuinely not a lightweight, she wouldn't need to tell us she has this or that qualification, would she?

It'd be obvious from her words.

Therefore, she is boasting here. Inappropriately.

zoemaguire · 16/03/2014 15:25

Top 5 world writers/orators of the past 100 years - I reckon that is pushing it drank, and I was a big fan!

DrankSangriaInThePark · 16/03/2014 15:30
Grin

No, I seriously would put him up there.

or did you think I meant Louise

PeggyTheGuineaPig · 16/03/2014 15:31

Hi everyone, my first post here, just to say that my owner Mintyy has shown me this thread ... and it is OBVIOUSLY not to do with party politics. I reckon I could write a passable guest post on Tony Benn ... my spelling and grammar are not bad for a rodent, don't you think?

DrankSangriaInThePark · 16/03/2014 15:36

Hello Peggy, welcome to MN.

Can we book you for an in-depth analysis of the upcoming Budget? Are you free to cobble together, let's say 350 words on the current financial and economic climate for Britons? Maybe a paragraph on how the proposed stuff(

Viviennemary · 16/03/2014 15:42

I hope you're not a lightweight or vacuous Peggy. Grin

DrankSangriaInThePark · 16/03/2014 15:48

She won't be, she's a guinea pig. Now gerbils on the other hand. Dreadfully airy fairy are gerbils. But with guinea pigs, you get substance.

tribpot · 16/03/2014 15:51

Pretty sure Peggy will be aware that cyber-security is a major priority for the government, and may wish to comment on this story in today's Indie. References to the Da Vinci Code will be acceptable, although obviously Dan Brown has other books which are more pertinent to modern cryptography.

RonaldMcDonald · 16/03/2014 16:04

I am unsure that an accomplished scribe such as Louise Mensch would want to share a thread with a mere guinea pig and some assorted muppets

She'd be very sniffy

Northernlurker · 16/03/2014 16:10

Sniffy? Is she allergic to guinea pigs?

Grin

What's she saying on Twitter?

DrankSangriaInThePark · 16/03/2014 16:26

What she should be saying on Twitter is "please don't let me ever make such an eejit of meself again on t'interweb".

I hope all the people she's telling that she gave it to us good and proper are coming to read and see that, erm, actually, she didn't.

PeggyTheGuineaPig · 16/03/2014 16:28

Am tempted to sign up to Twitter just for a look-see. Reckon in a few days I could acquire 80,000 followers, easy.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 16/03/2014 16:31

I've just been and had a look. She is retweeting people who have said she wrote a moving piece.

PeggyTheGuineaPig · 16/03/2014 16:35

Figures.

usualsuspectt · 16/03/2014 16:54

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tribpot · 16/03/2014 17:07

She retweeted a couple of remarks yesterday, that's all. Kate Silverton, for example, is much worse for retweeting complimentary remarks she gets on Twitter :) I have only had one, but it was from a leading knitwear designer (also called Kate) calling me a genius. Mind you, I didn't retweet it but I told EVERYONE I know, which is basically the same thing.

DrankSangriaInThePark · 16/03/2014 17:18

I joined twitter for half an hour, ages ago, and "followed" some people, like I'd been told to, then one of them messaged me and said "why are you following me" so I ran away and de-registered.

teaandthorazine · 16/03/2014 17:32

I find twitter baffling, I have to be honest Blush. I like the idea of it but the reality is a bit overwhelming. I am an old fart, though.

I think fair play to LM if she only wants to re-tweet the good stuff - we're probably all guilty of that. Not sure I'd be sat googling my own name if I was on holiday in Puerto Rico (getting lashed on rum cocktails and working on the tan, more likely) but hey ho; if this thread has taught me anything it's that I definitely don't understand the lifestyle/motivation of yer average twittersleb anyhow, so...

DrankSangriaInThePark · 16/03/2014 17:39

If you google me, you will discover I am a shoe designer.

Which obviously, I am not.

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