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Is this very bright or more? sorry its long!!

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GivemeBaileysDailyandImhappy · 01/01/2009 19:41

Thanks in advance to anyone who takes time to give an opinion.
I have written about my dd to clarify what she can do at 2.11yrs so I can remember once she grows up and so I don't look back with rose tinted glasses iyswim.
She seems to know much more than children she goes to nursery with of the same age.
Eliza aged 2.11 years - Development.

Speech and language

Eliza speaks fluently using link words in sentences such as and, because, incase etc. She speaks in sentences of up to 15 words such as ?I need to take my baby upstairs to bed because she is getting very tired.? Eliza now rarely mixes past , present and future tense verbs. She is articulate and descriptive about objects she sees around her and regularly comments on their size, shape, colour, texture and general appearance. An example of this would be while in the car she spent time looking at houses saying ?that?s a big house, bigger than our house and its pink!? Another example is that she noticed that her scooter was different from her friends because it has 2 wheels whereas hers has 3 and also notices and vocalises similarities such as both scooters are pink. She uses words in context and shows a good sense of humour. An example of this was when she was asked by her Grandma what Santa was bringing her, she replied ?a scooter?, when asked what Santa was bringing Lucy she laughed and replied ?hair!? She is able to verbalise problem solving plans. An example of this was when she noticed the telephone was missing from its charger saying ?oh no, where?s the telephone gone, we might have left it at Tims?, to which her Dad replied ?and we won?t be able to telephone him to tell him to bring it back!?. Eliza said ?noo? with emphasis, but then without prompting thought of the solution and said ?we will have to use your phone.? meaning mobile phone. Eliza has the understanding to know that some words have the same meaning such as loads, lots, tons, many and will use them interchangeably while speaking. She understands that certain words rhyme such as frog, log, dog and will regularly change sentences to be funny i.e. instead of saying who are you? She will say ?poo par poo?? while laughing. She is able to sing nursery rhymes most of the way through and remembers the plot to all her story books and DVDs, asking to skip to specific favourite bits of the story or film.

Understanding

Eliza has excellent understanding and carries out tasks when asked and uses her initiative whenever she can. She has a grasp of how co-operation can help situations. She often puts crockery, cutlery, dirty washing into appropriate places and rarely needs reminding to put rubbish into the bin. She understands and applies advice to all situations, such as being aware of her sister in relation to leaving small toy parts within her reach, shutting stair gates after her if she goes through them. If she sees Lucy with anything small she removes it from her or tells me. She is also mindful of Lucy getting hold of toys with sharp edges and that they could cut her and that small objects could choke her. Eliza also understands her physical limits and will ask to go to bed if she feels tired, says when she is hungry, thirsty and is able to vocalise feelings such as sadness, happiness, anger, feeling unwell and why. She understands connections between people, places, events and will talk about past events either by saying ?when I was a little girl? which is a long way in the past or ?yesterday? which is her recent past. She understands that circumstances change. An example being that we went to Honeybrook farm and it was closed. I explained this to her and she was happy enough with the explanation and that we were going somewhere else instead. On the way home she said ?Honeybrook might be open now.? We have been to places in the past that weren?t open because we were too early so she had made that connection and assumed it might open later. Eliza also understands the connections of family for example that her uncle Lee is my brother, her aunty Kerry is her dads sister and that her Grandma is my mum etc. Eliza rarely needs telling anything more than once for it to be understood and later applied to another situation.

Creativity and imagination

Eliza is able to colour and paint using the tripod grip to hold pencils, pens and paint brushes. She draws using precise movement and can identify certain marks she makes such as ?oh? ?curly c? , ?l? and ?x?. Eliza will say what she is drawing. Eliza understands how to use scissors and is able to cut across a page as opposed to lots of individual cuts and is learning how to cut out. She knows that she has to wash her paint brush between colours if she doesn?t want them to mix and painted a pot piggy bank, the only assistance being to turn the pig to reach unpainted areas. She concentrated on this task for 30 mins until every bit was painted and took great care not to overlap the different coloured paints. She is able to make pictures with fuzzy felts that have significance and can describe what is happening in the picture. Her imagination is mainly with her dolls and playing mum at the moment, this includes breast feeding her and changing sides! She has now moved on to bottle feeding her since I stopped breast feeding 3mths ago. She often parks her pram in the kitchen saying ?baby is asleep? and shushes me if I go into the kitchen incase I wake her up saying ?Be quiet, don?t wake her up!? in hushed tones. Eliza also enjoys music and pretends to play the mouth organ, recorder, piano and tambourines. She also enjoys singing into her microphone. Eliza enjoys dressing up and acts according to her costume I.e. if she is dressed as a nurse she gets out her Drs bag to go with it and pretends to take my temperature, listen to my heart etc and asks where I hurt. She then pretends to give me medicine, saying I am hot.
She is able to stick and glue using the appropriate amount of glue and choosing her pieces to stick carefully. She also sticks logically for example when making a photo frame at halloween she only stuck pieces to the edge of the frame on the card and then decided with logic that sticking inside would not make a difference to being able to put the photo inside and began sticking inside. She is able to peel tiny stickers, stick them the right way up and not overlap them. She is also able to put hamma beads onto the boards although she doesn?t have enough interest in these yet to concentrate for long, maybe 10-15mins at most.

Cognition and Problem Solving/Maths

Eliza can rote count to 15. She understands that if an object is added or taken away that the number will be different and is able to recount objects to see how many are left. I.e if she had 5 grapes and I asked her to hide 2 and then asked how many where left she would recount and tell me 3. She knows that she needs to count objects only once and I am in the process of teaching her to put her finger on each or move them to the side so she knows they have been counted. Eliza will often see a car or something and comment on the colour and then see another of the same colour saying ?that?s 2 blue cars? etc. She is starting to recognise some numbers and enjoys doing puzzles with numbers on them. Since she knows her colours well and is developing her matching skills with jigsaws she now understands to look for pieces with colours that match and shapes/shades that match. She knows basic shapes such as oval, circle, square, triangle, diamond, star, rectangle and recognises shapes in every day objects. For example she commented that the TV was a rectangle, she wanted a triangle shaped shortbread biscuit or a round one. Since becoming interested in jigsaws in the past few months her problem solving has improved further and she can now complete 30 piece puzzles with minimal imput. She uses the picture on the box to look for which piece goes where. She was able to recognise a car identical to my friends by its shape and shade of colour, even though it was completely out of context and I hadn?t noticed until she pointed it out! Eliza has been practicing taking turns at games such as the young version of kerplunk involving taking leaves on sticks from a container and trying not to let the bees fall, after the 2nd game she understood the rules and took turns with some prompting to not jump ahead. Eliza also enjoys making ?necklaces? from plastic shapes threaded onto shoe laces.

Physical ability

Eliza is able to run, jump, hop, scoot, trampoline, swim with just a float suit and is fearless in water. She can climb stairs and descend stairs without holding on and can carry multiple things up and down them. She can climb all levels at soft play and is happy to go to the top level.
During awake time Eliza is fully toilet trained, however she shows no sign of becoming dry at night time and pullups are usually wet in the morning. She does not pass stools during her sleep though.
Eliza is able to dress herself 85%, she is able to put on knickers, skirts, socks, top and some dresses but needs assistance with buttons, belts and laces. She is able to put on shoes, trainers and wellies. She is able to undress herself with the exception of getting her second arm out of her sleeve and undoing buttons and belts. She is sometimes able to put on her coat and at other times struggles.
She is able to cut with a knife when prompted and eats well with a spoon and fork rarely spilling any. However, since the introduction of finger foods for her sister she leans towards the lazy option of using her fingers to copy her.

Social ability

Eliza mixes well with other children and prefers the company of older children. She enjoys playing hide and seek and understands how to hide without being seen I.e. in the wardrobe, under her bed etc. She enjoys playing games with us and will ask to play whatever she wants to do. If what she wants is accessible she will take the initiative to go and get it out.
Eliza has been bad tempered for the last few months and prone to tantrums and unexpected outbursts. This has been brought about by the arrival of her sister and possibly by the need for more stimulation, as I feel she has been deprived of lots of my time and interaction since the birth of her sister. I believe she has become bored of her toys and appears to be behaving better since getting puzzles to do for Christmas. She now has things to occupy her that require thought, which have been lacking. I feel her behaviour will improve more when she starts pre-school in January where she will be stretched more mentally and socially. She still asks after children who I minded who left in February and says she misses them. She tells us she loves us. Her behaviour at nursery is impeccable according to her keyworker.

Below is a framework from a five year old expectation development chart. I have deleted things that Eliza cannot do and left the things she is capable of now at 2.11 years.

SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT
invents games with simple rules
organizes other children and toys for pretend play
can take turns and share, but doesn't always want to
expresses anger and jealousy physically
carries on conversations with other children and adults
uses "bathroom words" to get attention , uses poo lots to try to shock.
sometimes can be very bossy
likes to try new things and take risks
likes to make own decisions
notices when another child is angry or sad - more sensitive to feelings of others
prefers company of 1 or 2 children at a time.
likes to feel grown up; boasts about self to younger, less capable children, constantly tells her sister she can?t do things as she is too little or too young.
good understanding of right and wrong
plays contentedly and independently without constant supervision
Will watch a film from start to finish commenting on what is happening and the feelings of the characters such as happy, sad, scared etc.
takes turns and shares (sometimes)
understands and respects rules - often asks permission . will ask to play or get something out if it involves mess such as painting or drawing and cutting.
understands and enjoys both giving and receiving
enjoys collecting things , leaflets.
sometimes needs to get away and be alone , often goes to play upstairs alone.
can understand relationships among people and similarities and differences in other families . Understands that her friend now has a sister like she does and talks about how her friend will help her mummy with her sister
seeks adult approval
sometimes critical of other children and embarrassed by own mistakes , says ?I?m silly? when she makes mistakes.
has a good sense of humor, and enjoys sharing jokes and laughter with adults
PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT
able to dress self with little assistance
Attempts to skip
throws ball overhead
catches bounced balls, inconsistently though. Often drops them.
Now has a balance bike but is unsure as it is new, rides on her scooter
balances on either foot for 5-10 seconds
uses a fork well and is learning to use a knife
cuts on a straight line with scissors
left or right hand dominance is established , right hand dominant.
walks down stairs, alternating feet without using a handrail
jumps over low objects
can run, gallop, and attempt to forward roll
Can run on tiptoe
Attempts to perform dance steps
Can copy some shapes and letters
INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENT
understands about 13,000 words
uses 5-15 words in a sentence
likes to argue and reason; use words like "because"
knows most colours including peach, cream, turquiose, gold, silver, grey
able to memorize address but only the town where she lives.
understands that stories have a beginning, middle, and end
able to remember stories and repeat them
understands that books are read from left to right, top to bottom
enjoys jokes and being silly talking in made up words
draws pictures that represent animals, people, and objects, however, they don?t look like the objects represented
can place objects in order from shortest to tallest
can understand and use comparative terms like big, bigger, or biggest
sorts objects by size
identifies some letters of the alphabet and a few numbers (if taught)
understands "more," "less," and "same"
counts up to 10 objects
recognizes categories ("These are all animals; these are all toys.")
understands before and after, above, and below
has good attention span and can concentrate well , up to 30 minutes on a task she enjoys.
interested in cause and effect
can understand time concepts like yesterday, today, and tomorrow as well as morning, afternoon and night time.

Eliza is also able to use hypothetical thinking and suggest what might happen in a theoretical situation. If you say for example ?what would happen if the car drove on our side of the road in the opposite direction and not on the other side of the road?? she would answer with ?we would crash and we would get hurt/would die?. If you asked her ?what would happen if we didn?t strap lucy into the pram?? she would answer ?she would fall out.? Sometimes she will say ?I don?t know? and then go and think about it and later give an answer.

If you got this far many thanks.

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ChasingSquirrels · 01/01/2009 22:40

my mum did her NNEB then teacher training when I was small.
She used me as one of her case studies (in the third party) and I used to LOVE reading the report.
It was more human sounding that yours though, and included drawings that I had done.

Hulababy · 01/01/2009 22:40

Maybe you;d have got a better reception had you posted in behaviour and development rather than gifted and talented.

The report is very OTT though. I can see why it could come about it you have to do such reports on other children who you mind for - didn;t realise childminders, etc had to do such detail TBH. Wow!

GivePeasAChance · 01/01/2009 22:45

"Is this very bright or more?"

Is there more than very bright? At 2?

GivemeBaileysDailyandImhappy · 01/01/2009 22:46

I have all her drawings, paintings, sticking etc in a folder which I will keep as well and like I said you are right it needs more funny stories with it and less on development.
It has been helpful to have this thread because I know now that I should chill more and not be so focused on what she knows or doesn't.
Going to have to go to bed, long drive early tomorrow. Thankyou all for your input

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GivemeBaileysDailyandImhappy · 01/01/2009 22:49

Hulababy, with minded dcs you have to demonstrate that you are meeting the EYFS cirriculum and that involves planning learning objectives from birth to 5. The best way to demonstrate is by giving examples of achievements and where to plan next iyswim This needs to be written down because otherwise there is no evidence for OFSTED to assess you.

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GivemeBaileysDailyandImhappy · 01/01/2009 22:50

night.

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Yurtgirl · 01/01/2009 22:50

Another point I thought of earlier, not sure if anyone else has said this:

Its great that you have recorded all this stuff about your dd, but imo you would be better to keep the mega long report to yourself! If you want to know what others think about your child (who sounds lovely btw) you would be better to sum it all up in say 5- 10 sentances.

ladyjuliafish · 01/01/2009 22:54

My dd is 2 months older than yours and I would say that she is slightly below average. She can do most of the things on your list but she doesn't know any letters, she wouldn't watch a whole film, she can only count up to 8, if she is sticking then she just does it randomly rather than makes a picture and she never seeks adult approval. I think she can do all the other things although I've never asked her to do lots of them such as place objects in order of size. She has been able to do a forward roll for about a year and can do a backward roll. She has been peddling her bike since Easter but still has stablisers on which I think is normal. She has been dry at night for over a year and during the day for about 18 months but I don't think that potty training and giftedness are related at all. She insists on dressing herself but like your dd can't manage buttons very well. She doesn't use a knife yet but we don't eat much food that requires a knife. She can use chopsticks with some success. Your dd does sound more mature than mine but not in a way that you should be concerned about. She was possibly having problems with her behavior a few months ago because she is 2 and you had a newborn so were tired and less tolerant of her behavior. If she is good at role playing and entertaining herself then she shouldn't need stimulation in the form of puzzles to make her well behaved.

I love your dds joke about the hair. Just before Christmas I was busy and my ds asked if he could help. We gave him a job to do and he said 'I love helping' dd said 'I love unicorns' and burst out laughing and ran out the room. I must remember to write it in her book. I would keep on doing your 'reports'. I wish my mother had put more in my baby book.

piscesmoon · 01/01/2009 23:07

She sounds, as many have said, a bright articulate DD with lots of interaction with adults; I wouldn't say that she was in any way remarkable. I should just enjoy her and not worry about whether she is gifted and talented.

resolutions · 02/01/2009 01:28

Ididn't read all but one time i remember was my ds2 hv assessment at 20 mos when he knew los of nursery rhymes and songs from a video and bedtime book so i don't think your dd is unusual,sounds receptive and interactive[i'm starting to dislike the word bright actually]
you are obviously a proud mum and love her to bits well done!

zazen · 02/01/2009 03:16

Your Dd sounds as intelligent as mine, which I would say is above average, but not stratospherically so.

Does she ask about death and dying and where she was before she was born? my DD's philosophical and spiritual questions really stumped me for a while as I didn't want to just tell her straight we all die when she was only 2, and yes, she was upset and did have a little weep, and is very sad when we see dead birds etc.
But now at 4 yo, we have great chats about what happens when we die and what people believe, and she loves looking at dead animals with her pals when we find them in the woods or wherever. One of her friends has a nose for dead birds/animals and is better than any bloodhound! The glee when they find something interesting

I also used to calculate how many words / verbs / tenses my Dd knew... and how she could read etc at 2, which I did think was remarkable. But now that she's in school, at 4yo, I just let her be herself, and leave her to get on with things at her own ('quick enough') pace.

No matter how quick my DD is though, I've always emphasised that she is no better or no worse than other people - same as we all are. There are so many pitfalls with labels - sure it's nice to find out how your child is, but to what end? I am glad that the school thet DD is in has very broad intake and has lots of clever children and also has quite a few children with Down Syndrome, and other motor skills problems. DD is quite empathetic and includes them in her play.

Sounds like you have a lovely Dd there who is good company. Well done - if you feel you have anything to do with it!!! I always looked at my DD as a person who had come to live with us for a while.
I know that genetically I gave her half of her genes, and have nurtured her, but don't take any of the credit for her talents or stamina etc.

Enjoy her company!

piscesmoon · 02/01/2009 09:24

I really don't think that you should start labelling children, just let them be! Everyone gets remarkably proud of their own DCs-I could do a whole list of the wonderful vocabulary etc that my DS had at 2 yrs old. When you come across a lot of children you know that there are masses of really bright little DCs out there who are a joy to anyone. The newspapers are full of children who can't hold a conversation, don't know nursery rhymes etc at 2 yrs and it is easy to get the idea that this is the norm,forgetting that you could equally have articles about the really advanced children.
Just carry on the way that you are but don't burden her with your expectations.

Katiestar · 03/01/2009 18:55

Bit OT but I did a Diplomas in pre school practice a couple of years ago when DD2 was nearly 2.I had to do observations on her and write down for a period of 20 minutes or so everything she said or did.It is fascinating to look back on and see how far she has come !

Back to your post.We all analyse our children and look for signs of high ability in every area and that's great.Just one word of advice -keep it to yourself.Other parents don't really want to hear how well you think your DC is doing.It comes over as boasting and is very boring

wickedwitchofwestfield · 06/01/2009 22:24

I actually managed to read all of that and I couldn't stop thinking how the little girl I just stopped nannying for ticks pretty much all those boxes (3yrs old) but it never struck me to label her 'gifted' or 'exceptional'... I just enojed having this little person to talk to who could give me her opinion on anything and everything and was so much fun to be around

children are growing up too quickly as it is, enjoy the wonderfulness of your daughter without worrying whether she is 'special' or not, she is your little girl, so she'll always be special whether she can count to 15 or 2 at the moment lol

Gunnerbean · 06/01/2009 23:51

GivemeBaileysdaily

I notice that you have been at pains to acknowledge most peoples' posts here - and most especially those of the variety which say something along the lines of "I have read your report on your DD and my DD/DS was doing the same if not more than your DD at a younger age". It all sounds a bit competitive to me... .

I think it speaks volumes about you that you have not acknowledged by far the most sensible post that has been put on this thread so far, that being the one from lou031205.

Just in case you missed it, I think it's worth pasting it here for you to read again. I think it says everything that you need to hear/take on board:

lou said:

Give me Baileys Daily....

When I was 2 I was assessed because my expressive speech was hard to comprehend. I spoke in strings of sentences, but I couldn't be understood. There were concerns that I might have learning difficulties. I actually tested with the IQ of an 8 year old except that I couldn't tie my shoelaces.

It didn't do me well. I was always expected to achieve by teachers and peers, etc. I often got bored because I academically outstripped my class, even when in the lower year of a mixed class. Socially I was unable to function easily. I lost interest and almost bombed out my A-levels completely.

Don't place such importance on your daughter's skills. She is a little girl, tiny. Let her be a little girl. Delight in her quirks and funny take on the world that can only come from being 3.

My daughter is just 3 and has developmental delays. But she makes me chuckle when she puts her hand inside her grandad's shirt and says its a gruffalo, or smiles with glee when she runs soup through her fingers, or says "it's a cold day, Mummy".

I think that you would do well to write down memories of your daughter's personality - what makes you laugh, what does she enjoy that is really silly? Who is going to care that she could count to 15 at 2.11? She will soon be counting in the hundreds. Who is going to care that she knew what grey or silver was? But I bet she would care that she used to say pooey-looey at the top of her voice and thought she was being really naughty! Or that she loved to play pretend shops with you.

Chill out a bit. Your assessment was so intense it was a bit scary, tbh.

Here, here lou!

cory · 07/01/2009 08:40

Agree with Gunnerbean and others. By the time she is 7 you will have forgotten what things seemed early and very clever for a 2-year-old, because you move on. Developmental milestones are only interesting for a very short time. But the funny and quirky things can become family legend and entertain you all for generations. And give her a much stronger sense that you enjoyed her as an individual when she was little.

Looking back at our own toddler groups and circles of friends, the children who seemed almost scarily bright at 2 are not necessarily the ones who are particularly bright now, 10 years later. Then again, some of them are still very bright. It just seems quite unpredictable. But they are all a source of joy to their parents.

abraid · 07/01/2009 08:57

She sounds like my daughter--considered exceptionally bright and able in all areas when she entered reception at nearly five.

These days at 10, she's considered bright but not outstanding in all areas. For instance, her spelling's only a little better than average and she has yet to rake up more than a pass in the three piano exams she's taken (though that could be the teacher). She's just a sparky little girl with an aptitude for maths whom I enjoy very much.

If we'd taken all we were told seriously at 4 or 5, I'd be pulling out my hair worrying why she'd 'failed' to live up to her promise.

cory · 07/01/2009 09:58

Abraid makes a good point. If you get too hung up on early development, you may get a completely needless feeling of having failed your child if they are not exceptional at a later age. Which yes- some children fail to live up to their potential because of understimulation. But an awful lot of children just find their natural level. And this can be hard if their parents have preconceived ideas of what they should be like, because of what they were like 6 years earlier.

I see a lot of students who struggle at uni, because they have done so well at school, and they are paralysed by the fear of letting everybody down when it turns out they are not particularly outstanding at uni.

duchesse · 07/01/2009 10:15

As a former "child prodigy" (I knew my alphabet at 1, could say "antidisestablishmentarianism" at 18 months, could read at 2, yadda yadda yadda), I would say STOP focusing on this stuff and concentrate on keeping her happy in her own skin and laughing. There is so much more value in that long term, cos, guess what? all those things she can do now- every other kid in the land will eventually be able to do them.

drivinmecrazy · 07/01/2009 10:30

She sounds just like my DD2, who compared to DD1 I considered not so bright. Does that make my DD1 a SUPER genius? DD1 could do most of these things at 2 so i am always comparing. My DD1 is top in her year (yr3) at all things but I dont consider her at any more of an advantage than her peers, in fact i think she may have a harder time through life because she analyses every thing, whereas DD2 just jumps straight in an enjoys herself far more than her sister did at this age.
I have two very bright, confident beautiful little girls and that is all I care about. BTW, DD2 didn't even start talking til she was 2 so developed extremely quickly.
I also think the developmental milestones are written to encompass all children of that age, many many more surpass these markers than don't.
She is NORMAL

Gunnerbean · 07/01/2009 17:51

drivinmecrazy said:

"My DD1 is top in her year (yr3) at all things"

I don't know what sort of school she goes to but my DS goes to a normal state primary and I would have absolutely no idea who is "top of his year". My DS has had 5 teachers now and whenever I've discussed his progress with them teacher at parents' evenings etc, they have all limited our discussions to my DS's progress. They might say complimentary things about him but never have nay of them drawn comparisons between him and other children in his class or year group.

I can't imagine how a parent these days would ever know that their child is "top in their year at all things", unless of course a member of teaching staff has told them that. I find that hard to believe though. I think that would go against the grain of what teachers are all about these days.

I find that these days in schools there is very little comparison of children going on, very little competition and certainly no picking kids out who do particularly well to use as an example to others, as was routinely the case in my day.

At my DS's school they have termly praising assemblies but the children who are praised are more often that not picked out because they have made an improvement in some area of the cirriculum in which they had previously been experiencing difficulties or praised for an improvement in an area such as behaviour, attitude or effort. Never because they were "top in everything".

In my expereince today, teachers just don't divulge the sort of information about other pupils to enable parents to go around making comparisons between their own child/ren and others in their class.

We also have a team points scheme but they can be awarded for any aspect of good work, behaviour, helpfulness, politeness - anything really so even winning the shield at the end of the week for having the most team points is not a reflection on how clever you are.

JodieO · 07/01/2009 17:55

Sounds quite similar to my Ds2 who is 2 at the weekend. I think he's clever but I've seen no signs of him being "gifted" and I'm not pushing any of my children into anything unless they want to.

JodieO · 07/01/2009 18:01

Oh and in dd's and ds1's school (Year 2 and reception respectively) they have sets in the class, I was told she is in the top set for maths and the 2nd top for english.

drivinmecrazy · 07/01/2009 18:04

I have been told that she is the top of her top sets. i do not use it as a bragging right or think my child is any better than her class mates, just using it to point out that however 'gifted' or clever a child is it has no bearing on how they are really doing. why are some people so pedantic about things.

Flightattendant7 · 07/01/2009 18:06

Ds1 was pretty similar at that age, his language was phenomenal, he was really really bright and clever at loads of things, but also fairly crap at others

Ds2 is much slower and even a bit behind average I suspect.

I think she sounds pretty normal tbh, not being funny, but I didn't see anything that made me think 'gifted'.

I can see how you find her wondrous, though, a first child seems like a miracle especially if they continually surprise you with the clever things they say and do. It's a great journey.

I also sympathise with the record keeping, it is interesting to observe and document your child (not that I ever got round to it!) - I would write stuff like this about other subjects though before he was born and I got too busy!

I think what I'm trying to say is that she is unique and wonderful but not in a way that other children aren't...iyswim.

I'm not going to tell you to enjoy her or anything, she's your kid, I'm sure you do already. It will make interesting reading for you to look back on particularly if you have another child. I often find myself trying to compare ds1 and 2 and finding I have forgotten a lot of things.

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