Key stage 1 comparative report - inclusive of GD results

[IamPickleRick]

I am trying to understand the stats in greater depth (ha)

Are the “expected standard” percentages shown for the school inclusive of the GD results. IE does the 73% comprise both expected and greater depth, meaning the remaining 17% make up just the “working towards” % or is it that 17% both WT and GD?

And does anyone know if London schools will provide information on the GD% because these % results for the amount of students getting an Expected grade don’t mean much if your child isn’t in that category

Thanks if anyone knows

It's normally reported cumulatively so expected standard % would include GD.

Yes, both

"percentage of pupils reaching the expected standard", if that didn't include people who exceeded t, it would be very poorly worded.

I'm not sure what information you really want to get about the general population, lots of kids get greater depth, almost 1 in 3 if you're a girl in london for reading I believe, so it's not a huge indicator of ability beyond the obvious doing well.

Because if it’s not inclusive, it’s very easy to work out the result for the remaining 17% so why can it not be broken down properly so that we can all see the percentages for all.

The letter says “for your understanding of your child’s result” but it’s a bit of a gloss over because a statistic usually includes notes on how it was compiled. I’m not suggesting my child rivals Pythagoras, just asking and this thread seemed best placed for people to know. Someone did. Thankyou.

I'm not sure what information you really want to get about the general population

I don’t care about the general population and what they scored, I’d like to know if the stat is inclusive so that I can see how the school is performing for my child.

Comparison, especially comparison with a very small group will tell you nothing about how the school is performing for your child, even if your child was the only one who didn't meet expectations in the school, it could still be doing amazing things with them, or it could be doing badly if they were the only one who got greater depth. The variety within a single class or school is simply too large to know, the results won't help you decide if the school is doing well, they might be able to help you identify if they're failing, but even then that will be purely about the kids result.

Yes.

Thanks. The statistic has been explained to me now.

I don’t know whether this might be of interest to you:

% achieving Greater Depth nationally in the KS1 teacher assessments in 2017:

25% reading (22% boys and 29% girls)
21% maths (22% boys and 19% girls)
16% writing (11% boys and 20% girls)
11% all three (9% boys and 13% girls)

Hmm I am not sure you got the correct answer here.

So the 'usual' stats you see everywhere will say
Expected ........... Greater Depth
80%.....................40%

Meaning, 80% got at least expected, and 40% of the overall population, so in this case 1/2 of those that got at least expected, got greater depth. It also means 20% did not make 'expected' so are 'working towards' or lower.

HOWEVER - if this is a school internal statistic that is given to parents to further their understanding of their child's results, it could be anything. So if it says '80% got expected' but nothing else, it could mean 'at least expected' as per above, or it could mean that the other 20% are split into e.g. 10% that got working towards and 10% that got greater depth. Only your school can tell you what they mean!

and by the by, 73 + 17 does not add up to 100... If you've been given the numbers 73 / 17 then I would suspect that 73% got at least expected (so 27% are working towards or below), and 17% of overall population or roughly 1/4 of those that got at least expected, got greater depth.