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What is the best sort of school for underachieving DME?

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KOKOagainandagain · 13/01/2014 10:36

DS2 is 7 and in year 3 at local state m/s.

He has high learning potential (VR 98th, NVT 99.3rd) and HFA with some speech (narrative and pronunciation) delay, sensitivities etc and poor functional, social and non-verbal communication. He lacks any social desire to please and only pays attention for a max of 5 mins at a time on a good day and 30 seconds on a bad day. His attainment at NC is around average.

I am appealing refusal to assess from the LA and in the meantime the senco/head has agreed to use a token reward system to target pre-learning behaviour in class for 10 hours each week. He already has termly visits from SALT and OT and is following 1:1 programmes delivered by the TA.

I have used a token reward system at home with great success. I am hoping that this can be equally successful in enabling access to the curriculum and will unlock achievement - but I am not holding my breath Sad. It is not complicated but requires consistency which means that classroom support needs to be on-going rather than the CT or TA getting him back on task and then leaving him (at which point he immediately stops working).

If this could get him sat at a desk, quiet, following instructions and attending (and therefore achieving) I am thinking that grammar or selective indi would be most likely to provide a similar peer group (the autism genes are strong with these ones - to paraphrase Temple Grandin/Darth Vadar).

But what if it doesn't work. He hates following directions at school but is left to his own devices at home and will show an interest in what he has been learning at school. Last week he made a power-point presentation on the Greek Gods - I have never taught him power-point but he experiments, opening new applications and cutting and pasting images from the web.

Please help me think through the alternatives. I have a telephone apt with an educational consultant at potential plus in a couple of weeks but would really appreciate any advice/experience.

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theendgame · 13/01/2014 12:56

It might be worth asking this question on the Special Needs board as well, as I think you're more likely to find the people with experience of this kind of school intervention there.

Sorry not to be able to help more!

KOKOagainandagain · 13/01/2014 15:06

Thanks - I usually post on the SN boards but would welcome what may be a different perspective.

Does anyone have experience of enabling potential despite similar blocks, or are the 'blocks' likely to be more fixed - in which case I would need specialist provision?

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theendgame · 13/01/2014 15:57

In which case, I will ask you whether you think the classroom work is interesting enough to engage him?

Plenty of gifted kids don't perform in the classroom, and quite often it's because the work is dull and more repetitive than they need.

DD, 99,7th percentile, produced some absolute rubbish last term, worse than she was capable of two years ago, and then doodled all over the back of the paper, because the work wasn't even remotely interesting to her. quite what the teacher was doing letting this pass I do not know

KOKOagainandagain · 13/01/2014 17:01

He is clearly unstimulated but I doubt that he could be easily persuaded to stop attending to what he found interesting. For example, he appeared not to be attending to a Harry Potter bedtime story but actually he had enough brain space to be writing adjectives used in the text and still know the 'story'.

But because he is a world of his own (I relate to this as I was interested in religious concepts of omnipresence at the age of 5) he is not interested in engaging with Up or Madagascar but because he underachieves there is nothing to show.

I seem to be stuck. I can't get him on the g & t register which is all about academic achievement by NC.

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theendgame · 13/01/2014 20:00

Yes, and when you describe this, it could be the giftedness as much as the HFA. (Did you know, incidentally, that Taylor Grandin has said that all gifted people are somewhere on the spectrum, so it may not even be an either/or choice.)

Having said that, the g&t register is not in any way useful as there is no legal requirement for the school to do anything with the info, and most schools don't do much at all. Especially in cases of multiple exceptionality like your son.

I think the PP+ contact will be helpful - have you looked at their factshets on 2e children? That might give you some more leads.

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