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torbay73 · 08/09/2012 22:55

Ds year 4 is fairly average except in numeracy where I believe he is fairly able. Working at 4c I believe.
The school has a number of mixed ability year 4 classes which are going to be streamed/ mixed up for numeracy.
So the most able children will be working in a large group with no lsa and the weaker ones will have less children and 2 lsa.
Whilst I understand the principal of giving support where it is needed I am concerned that the teacher is going to find in hard to cater for 28 children on her own. (especially when they could still have a fairly wide ability range)
Would this be a concern for you?

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Hattie11 · 08/09/2012 22:59

How do u know there will be 28 with the teacher? Are there 30 in a class?
At our school level 5 in yr 4 is the top grades of class - so are u sure your ds will be in the top group?

harbingerofdoom · 08/09/2012 22:59

No.

torbay73 · 08/09/2012 23:03

We have been told numbers and which group ds will be in? Probably reading far too much into it.

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LeeCoakley · 08/09/2012 23:05

We do this in yr 2. And teachers have been coping with 30 children for years on their own! Grin

Hattie11 · 08/09/2012 23:07

I think so. Have faith in the school, and help your ds do some bits at home to so he keeps up.

RedHelenB · 09/09/2012 10:15

4c is good for year 4 so |I'm sure he will be fine.

ibizagirl · 10/09/2012 06:11

Didn't do dd any harm. She was in a class of 30 for her maths group. She was on 5A from year 4 and was fine. There were 2 year groups and one was dd's and the other one was split into 3 for the less able. Don't worry.

richmal · 11/09/2012 07:50

Maths is also in sets at dd's school. My dd is in a top group of 32 with one teacher. I do believe that the present education system which judges the school on what percentage of children reach level 5 by year 6 is failing the very bright.

Surely each group should have the same amout of resources?

singinggirl · 11/09/2012 08:20

Remember that some LSAs are not there to work with the whole class, but may be funded for specific children due to SN. So for example if there is only one general LSA, it would make sense to put them with the group where more individual assistance is required, and if the other LSA is specifically funded for one child they remain their sole responsibility. Generally these LSAs will help other children where appropriate, but the school has to give them responsibility only for the child thhey are attached to.

noisytoys · 11/09/2012 11:09

My DD has a LSA just for her because the school get funding for her. She was level 2A at the end of nursery so the school fought to say she couldn't be thought at the same level as the rest of the class. I don't think the other parent or children know though because her levels are between her, me and her teachers and no one else (other than anonymous people on the Internet) Wink

richmal · 11/09/2012 14:37

It seems like a lottery as to what help G&T children get in state school.

mrsshears · 11/09/2012 16:48

Really pleased for your dd noisytoys but also very Envy

torbay73 · 11/09/2012 16:58

As far as I am aware all the LSA's are general ones for the whole class. I don't think there are any individual child LSA's in those classes. Wow 2a at end of nursery. That is advanced.
True about the lottery. My dc's school don't seem to recognize G and T anymore. My youngest was in receprion but not since. Realise that's common.

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