Is it unusual that 19 month old can count to ten?

[RunnyBum]

Second DD but can't remember when DD1 did things like this. Obviously it's just repetition. Her speech is good I think, and she can only do bits and pieces of the alphabet. Basically I'm asking what a 19 month old should be doing? X

THe difference is between rote counting, any verbak child can learn tis in the same way as they learn twinkle twinkle, but if they understand number and can actually count in order to give you 5 apples or what ever then that is is a skill a lot of kids at reception haven't yet mastered,

Agree with Theas18 - kids can learn to sing the alphabet or numbers up to whatever figure in the same way that they can learn nursery rhymes - in which case it doesn't mean much, although cute. I'd say, as a parent not a teacher BTW, that the 3 year-old who can reliably rcognise and order numbers, count accurately and add or takeaway one or two without visual aids is on to something.

Any DC can learn by rote-it doesn't mean anything. I think that if you have one DC that you spend a lot of time with and you are forever reading and counting they will pick up the meaning. It doesn't mean they are especially bright, just that they spend more time with adults than with other DCs or on their own.

Usual average development they can rote count to ten by 3-4 and by the end of EYFS count to 10 and beyond, add and - one, count objects out to 10. That includes reception, however, there is a huge range of normal so i.e. dd1 and 2 could both do more than that. By 2 dd2 knew all colours, shapes, counted objects to 3 and rote counted to 20. DD1 wasn't so interested in maths but knew all colours by 2, understood time concepts of morning, afternoon, tomorrow and spacial awareness for directions, left and right and could count to 10. They are all just different but she is doing very well . It depends on interaction and stimulation, taking into account the deprivation factor in the EYFS.

DS3 (2 years and 2 weeks) counts all the time and has done for a while, I don't think he knows he is counting he just goes along going 'one, two, three, four etc to about thirteen'. I am sure it is quite normal.

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My dd is 19 months this week and counts 10 rubber ducks in and out of a jug at bath time and counts the coloured tiles on her great grandma's kitchen wall up to ten. I never gave it much thought really because she is my first child and I don't have a clue about what is 'normal' but nursery did get her a wooden numbers set from Santa because they said she loves counting so much.

I am terrible at maths though, as is dp so I doubt I have spawned the next Einstein and it will even out in the next few years

stay at home. I like to think that it is my, okish maths and h's not too bad maths added together that go to dd, rather than an average of both of our maths. and it is too early to tell if it will even out or not yet. we will just have to wait and see.

My DD who is now 27, could speak in quite long sentences at age 15 months, having said her first word at 8 months and never looked back. She went to secondary school a year early and uni as well, got good GCSEs and A levels and is now a teacher. I'm pretty certain that at 19 months she was counting real objects, not just reciting, and people always took her for a year older than she was, as she had a mature face and was quite tall.
Speaking early does indicate intelligence above the norm, but not speaking early does not indicate the opposite. I believe someone famously clever didn't speak until they were about five or so, so no doubt, didn't count either. Wasn't it Einstein? Can't remember. Memory is going. Advancing age from having a DD now aged 27!

Forgot to say that my DS3, now aged eleven, could direct me and his dad where he wanted to go from age two, in the car! We had a Ford Transit so his car seat was in the front and if we went the wrong way he got really cross! "Not this way!" would be bellowed at us! He didn't just know a few simple routes either, he knew them ALL!

If ever we took friends in the car, we would get him to do his party trick and amaze them. He's still amazingly good at places etc.
We never taught him this BTW, he just did it himself.

It doesn't seem unusual to me. But, I have the same problem with my only child.

Ds is 2.2 and can count to 26 (mummys age!), including knowing whether he has 2/3/4/5 cars etc if asked. He's been able to do this for a few months. He can also read numbers 0-10 which he picked up about 2 months ago (so around 2.0).

Since June last year he's known all letters of the alphabet, what letter words begin with and the phonics (sounds) to match. He'd have been about 20 months when he grasped it properly - ie using it in every day situations. He's starting to recognise written letters and currently knows about 8 I think.

He's known colours since 17 months and now knows a good chunk of shapes.

Everyone who meets him is amazed by him. He was rushed into hospital a couple of nights ago with croup (didn't know at the time and is perfectly fine after some meds) and had the ambulance crew in complete amazement with him and slowly gained an audience of nurses who were gobsmacked.

As I said, he's my first and to me, he's 'normal'. It's only been more recently when attending more activity sessions aimed at toddlers that I see he's well ahead of all we meet his age and all 3 year olds I come across and more and more people are commenting on him now. A friend of mine who is a nursery worker came round a few weeks ago. I've not seen her for years and she couldn't believe how much he knew (she even picked up on things I hadn't even spotted such as turning pages correctly in a book) and said at her nursery they often send children from the nursery off to school not knowing as much as he does. So, that got my attention a bit!

However, as bright as he is now, I don't take it too seriously as he's still so young. He could slow down and become uninterested and be relatively average by the time he attends school. I think they're too young at this age to be judging it and deciding how well they'll do at school.

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I know long shot but was she gifted ? Same boat with my 19 mi the DD ( she can count to 10 by repetition )

the problem with counting up in ones is it's possibly just memory without understanding.
If, in a couple of years, they can count backward in 3's or 7's, that implies much more understanding. If (after having been introduced to negative numbers, .e.g the floors below ground in a lift are a good place to introduce them) they can keep going through zero to negative numbers, that's an even stronger sign.
Another indicator (again, when older) is ability to answer slightly abstract questions. e.g. if we counted up everyone's fingers and toes at this table, how many would there be? and how many would there be if grandpa and grandma came to visit? Another good one is: what's two more than 699?
If they can answer those kinds of questions aged 4 or 5, they're likely to be mathematically gifted.
Spontaneous insights are also a strong indicator, e.g. if they observe that a square is both a rectangle and a rhombus.

PFB could count objects by 18 months i.e. tell you number of items to 10. And she could identify letters. We mainly just taught her in the bath. Find the letter "A" and she would.

She is gifted. Now 10 and miles ahead of her contemporaries.

But it brings it's own problems in terms of being easily frustrated with people she thinks are stupid (me apparently)