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Primary school teachers who are unable to keep up with a 9 year old

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activate · 12/11/2010 22:57

Makes me want to scream.

DS3 now has to go for maths lessons with a different teacher because his techer is not good at maths - what the hell are we doing allowing people who can be beaten by a 9 year old qualify as teachers?

And don't get me started on the state of grammar and spelling

15 years of crap education policy leads to a generation of bloody idiots teaching the next generation

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phipps · 14/11/2010 19:48

I was joking with the maths genius comment but I checked and all the answers were right which is why I am a bit Confused. She is year 3, top group.

Goblinchild · 14/11/2010 19:49

Some of the worst homework evenings in this house were caused by my genius level OH helping with homework in his area of specialism.
Not being sarcastic, just honest.

Goblinchild · 14/11/2010 19:50

get the sheet back and find out what went wrong, perhaps the teacher marked it incorrectly.

nobodyisasomebody · 15/11/2010 13:34

My ds aged 9 has been skipped by three years.

One of the reasone for this was that at the age of 4 and five he was working on maths concepts that the teacher was Confused about.

She admitted to me on many occasions that she had no idea what he was talking about.

FreudianSlimmery · 15/11/2010 17:33

Phipps did you find out about the HW yet?

phipps · 15/11/2010 20:17

I have mentioned it to the teacher and she is going to look at it.

BrandyButterPie · 07/12/2010 23:50

I know quite a few qualified primary school teachers who are out of work- they are not short of teachers at all.

However, I also know several teachers who couldn't pass the basic skills tests. They still qualified (eventually). Some of them are now working, teaching children.

RoadArt · 09/12/2010 22:29

You should put some examples of maths for 9 year olds. They can be quite hard and probably a lot of adults cant answer the questions.

DadAtLarge · 13/12/2010 01:42

activate, I completely agree with you that teachers should be competent enough to teach bright children right up to Y6. That means that every teacher should be able to comfortably handle L6-7 in all core subjects. That's so not the case now.

Simply being able to do L7 maths is insufficient to be able to teach L7 effectively.

I don't know about sensational TV programs exposing how poor teachers are at maths, but from much experience with teachers (in our family and friends circle and elsewhere) I'd be very surprised if even 50% of them - that's roughly about half Wink - can make L7 maths lessons interesting and stimulating.

"I do think a C in too low. But still - Grade C, roughly equivalent to level 5, so should enable most 9 year olds to be taught reasonably well."

Someone with a top achievement of a C in GCSE maths and no further maths training should stick to the reception class and not be allowed out of there on pain of death.

What nobody seems to have challenged is the low level of expectation we have. 4b is considered average for KS2. That's pathetic and dumbed down; the whole system is wrong. The average child is capable of much, much more. My DS is quite good at maths, was L5 in year two and we thought he was a bit of an exception, but now that his sisters are in school I'm realising more and more that there's nothing unusual about him. DD1 and DD2 are very average in their natural ability. They may not be L5 in Y2 but they'll certainly be there by Y4. DS is in Y4 and already has specialist maths teachers from the local secondary because he was just so far ahead, but I dread to think that someone who couldn't get more than a C in GCSE maths a decade or two ago is going to teach DD1 and DD2 when they are in Y6.

L6-7 is the expectation better schools in Asia have of their average pupils at age 11 ...and their pupils achieve it. Bear in mind 40-50 pupils to the class is not uncommon there.

I do believe that the industry needs shaking up. We should be much more selective about whom we as a nation allow to teach our children. And we should be paying a lot more to attract that talent even if that means making sacrifices elsewhere. Dedication to teaching and a love for working with children isn't enough qualification.

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