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Terrified: Guided Cortisone injection

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whatsgoingtohappen · 02/05/2010 22:11

I'm absolutely terrified and have gotten myself into a pathetic state. Tomorrow morning I'm going to have a guided cortisone injection into my shoulder, which I have suffered from serve chronic pain for over a year.
I'm terrified of needles and have shockingly low pain barrier, I'm pretty worried I will cry and embarrass myself. I hate crying especially in front of strangers. Plus I have no idea what is going to happen, all I know is that it's meant to hurt a lot. I am very very close to canceling it.
But I cant go on in this pain anymore.

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merryberry · 05/05/2010 14:22

flying visit between RA clinic and school run!

malificence don't have time to read back over thread, has your DH had ultrasound of shoulder done for diagnosis? xray's aren't much cop for such a complex joint. ultrasound picks up even mild problems, in terms of morphology. I'm mean, I've had fissures in tendons that hurt like bejaysus and can barely be seen, but ultrasound could see them. And I've had huge inflamed bursae and synovial capsules on exam that barely troubled me, but showed joint damage being done. ANd didn't show on xray. Dear god, my last ultrasound doc even advised against physio for shoulder problems. Everyone tells me to just guard it and get on with my life best as possible.

My take on Tramadol and pain, as someone who has a food/cigs addictive personality is that I take it when I need it and leave it when I don't. During my last bout of problems, I did worry about possible addictions (co-codamol and tramadol being used) as I was necking a lot, but with sustained use they really helped. If he has a problem, he won't get pain free, you have to accept that, but you do get pain managed enough. And when I had my last steroid shot, I dropped everything effortlessly, so glad to be clear headed again.

It is very hard work managing sustained pain in high levels. My heart goes out to your DH. Do make sure he is underpinning all other efforts with constant paracetemol and anti-inflammtory cover. It always suprised me when I have a big go round, how very much of a difference this makes, especially the paracetemol. Seriously, max amount of paracetemol and an anti inflamm like diclofenac.

I find the tramadol dozy making and usually save it for night. It is also slow acting, so I would have my 2 units of alcohol just before bed to relax all the tense muscles while waiting for it to kick in. Or take it a 1-2 hours before bed. If nothing works at night, get up and do quiet slow stuff arond the house. Distraction from pain related thoughts is very welcome. DVDs, internet, whatever it takes.

wgth I'm glad i've not broken unexpected idea to you then. the RF test needs your GP to add it to a normal blood form. It depends on your PCT if the GP can order an anti-CCP or not. Ask.

Pregnancy usually gives RA remission, though the bounce back into symptoms after delivery is often painful. RA has a far amount of hormonal stuff around it - women often get it at menopause, or after childbirth or at onset menstruation. Mine always flares when pre-menstrual and falls right back 3-4 days after Day 1.

If it did turn out to be RA I'd certainly be saying go go go on the TTC now, as many of the effective RA drugs can't be taken when PG or BF. In fact, with some of them you have to wash out for months before trying to TTC, so get in there while you can! If you join the forum at NRAS, you'll find actual conception and pregnancy boards directly related to RA. And we've all got loads of top tips for managin young families with limited mobility.

I've not needed RA private care, I am very lucky to live in Islington PCT area where they anti-CCP test and Rx anti-TNFs with merry abandon and high enthusiasm. Again, try the NRAS forum for better advise about your area and good private docs.

weird top tip

for shoulder pain that get unbearable and you're crying and pacing and swearing and all the muscles are spasming and you want to beat your head on a wall and there's no more drugs to take:

kneel on the floor, bum up and forehead on floor. let the affected arm relax out of socket with gravity. work on relaxing all those other shoulder/neck/arm muscles you suddenly realise are solid with tension. if no extra pain from this, stay there long as poss. seems to stop the spasming, and the rush of blood to the head always seems to help me calm down.

merryberry · 05/05/2010 14:33

mal

if he's a bottler-upper, sometimes men are happier with email counselling, if you can afford it, and can keep it up if they work full time as well. NHS counselling has bad waiting lists. private face to face is very expensive. email counselling is often specific task/issue related and efficient. there's been some research on it with back pain manamgement with good outcomes, sorry not time to find/link

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merryberry · 06/05/2010 06:32

if it is RA, or most anything else tbh, the one thing you can't do is let it roll over all your life. have your children, have the pain. there have been times when i could have vomited from the physical stress of dressing a baby and walking it out on the school run, but i suspect that RA depression would have got me down and out without them to give me such a strong focus in life. come and find me here when you get some results in from GP? and mal keep us posted?

i'm putting a watch on tnis thread for when it drops off of active convos

frostyfingers · 06/05/2010 12:52

Mal, I had an accident and hurt my shoulder and spent two years trying to get anyone to take me seriously so I sympathise with you all. It is so wearing being in constant pain, pretending that it's ok when it's not and being brave about it. It's hard to get across to men sometimes that they don't have to be brave and stiff upper lip, and that it's ok to have a weakness.

I tried acupuncture, which worked once, but not the next time, physio which was useless, had 4 failed steroid injections all the while various GP's were saying "time will heal" - bullshit.

However I saw a sports massage therapist which provided some relief for a couple of days, and an osteopath who also helped.

I gave up in the end and had a private consultation and the consultant then slotted me back in to the NHS list - it may be worth you looking into that but you do need to be careful. Another possibility is the local paper - kick up a stink, it may get you somewhere, or I think there's a health ombudsman. I had sub acromial decompression (reshaping of the collar bone), which has helped but not cured, and I'm told that the next option is some sort of replacement - I'm waiting until it gets worse before I go down that route! It is better though, and livable with.

It's exhausting for you all, but do keep at it and don't accept it when they say "it'll take .... weeks" - make a nuisance of yourselves and demand that they speed things up. Good luck.

Malificence · 06/05/2010 13:31

Well, he's seen the chiropractor today, he's absolutely convinced that DH has a trapped nerve in his neck that is causing referred pain in his shoulder - it would cetainly explain why painkillers aren't working at all and why the pain is constant and not just on movement.

He's also done x-rays to rule out bone damage and DH is going back in the morning, chiro reckons 4 sessions will sort him out - if it works then it's money well spent, it cost more to have the dog x-rayed!

I'm seriously leaning towards him paying privately for an ultrasound scan - if he hasn't heard the hospital by mid next week then he will be going private.

merryberry · 06/05/2010 13:56

glad you've got a plan! the shoulder is SO complicated, especially with it's referred pains and neuropathies etc. An ultrasound will really help with diagnosis, even if only going so far as to say what it's not

merryberry · 06/05/2010 13:58

a PS, my bone, tendon, bursa and synovial shoulder abnormalties ... none of them show up on xray except the RA bone damage and then only as extremely vague blurring.

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