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Single mumps vaccine available in France?

25 replies

Loobyfly · 27/01/2010 21:21

Like many people, my children have been left in the middle of single vaccine courses, without their Mumps jabs. I know the single Mumps vaccine is not available in the UK at the moment but does anyone know of any clinics in France which have some?

Thank you.

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walkthedinosaur · 27/01/2010 21:27

I live in France and couldn't get it for DS2 4 years ago, my GP simply said no we don't do it. In France the babies get the single measles vaccine at 12 months and then the MMR a year later.

Maybe you could find a sympathetic doctor but I tried four in my area to no avail. Of course like I say that was 4 years ago and maybe someone will come along with more up to date info.

castille · 27/01/2010 21:35

As Walkthedinosaur says, Mumps isn't available as a single jab at all in France.

It isn't even listed in the Vidal - the French bible of available medicines - so you clinics and pharmacists can't get hold of it.

winnybella · 27/01/2010 21:38

do they, walkthedinosaur?
In my dcs carnet de sante it says MMR at 12 mo and not a single measles.

castille · 27/01/2010 21:43

Single measles isn't standard here IME

Generally they do the MMR at any time from 9 months. My GP didn't even know measles was available as a single vacc here!

walkthedinosaur · 27/01/2010 21:48

Well as I say it was four years ago, but yes they gave DS a single measles vaccine around 12 months old and then the MMR a year later.

Maybe because I asked about single vaccines, I don't know. The measles vaccine was the only single vaccine on offer though.

paisleyleaf · 27/01/2010 21:53

I think some nurseries require the single measles earlier than the MMR.
And I'm pretty sure that the manufacturing of the mumps vaccine ceasing has an international impact.

winnybella · 26/02/2010 12:12

DD had a MMR today. I was thinking about giving her singles. There's no single mumps vaccine on offer in France, only measles and rubella.

thenovice · 17/05/2010 18:01

Has anyone on mumsnet actually come across any case of a child developing autism after MMR? I would have gone for single vaccines to avoid the worry, but as you can't get the mumps vaccine, it's not a complete answer.
What are the implications of omitting the Mumps vaccine and just having the Measles and Rubella vaccinations? I mean, is Mumps all that serious? I can recall having all 3 illnesses as a child and mumps was the least bothersome.
This is my first time on mumsnet and I am very sleep deprived at present (yes, she is 9 months old and still not sleeping through) so please excuse any lack of netiquette.

sleepysox · 21/05/2010 21:28

I used to work in a speech and language unit with autistic children, and 50% of my kids' parents said that their children had got regressive autism within a few days of the MMR. (50% equates to 3 kids- the classes were small!)

Where I used to live, the local gps arranged for their kids to have the singles at the Breakspeare Clinic in Hemel Hempstead. ( My friend was a secretary there).

I'm not pro or ante the MMR, before I get flamed, I just wanted to answer Novice's question.

danifox6 · 01/06/2010 11:10

Hi - I have read of cases of autism following from the MMR. I have just done a call around and some research and whilst I want to delve deeper for now I have found out that Merck stopped making the mumps vaccine due to the government persuading them to concentrate on the triple vax. Clinics are offering measles and rubella separately and 1 clinic I called in Harley street said they hoped to be receiving the mumps vaccine from 2 European sources in Easter 2011. So is it worth the wait? That's your decision of course. My opinion is, if there was 1 case in 1 million of autism developing after the triple vax, that's enough for me to want the separate ones. That being said, there are dangerous side affects of getting mumps, for example it can result in permanent hearing loss, 1 in 10 leads to the patient getting viral meningitis. It is more dangerous in boys when they get it in puberty. I have heard of people delaying the vaccines and giving them to their children at 4 or 6 so they are stronger to take the vaccine or they have had the illnesses already and have natural immunisation. Either way, it's a hot potatoe and you must do what you are comfortable with after you research.

stressed2007 · 15/06/2010 22:42

danifox can you please let eme know which clinic said it might get the mumphs vaccine in Easter 2011? Thanks

stressed2007 · 21/06/2010 15:17

bumping for danifox

munchymunchmum · 24/06/2010 22:08

any more updates on the availability of the mumps vaccine ? thanks

stressed2007 · 26/06/2010 19:04

I have been told by the clinic I use that as far as they know single mumphs is definitely not coming back. I am very keen to find out what Harley street clinic had the information about the new vaccine. I am going to phone a few next week and if I get any info I will post it on here.

sallydarin · 24/09/2010 19:51

HI there

It is the Harley Medical Clinic childrens Vaccinations

I got my sons vaccinations there last year.

I am awaiting the Mupms as well.

The Dr there told me that as long as my son (5yrs) has it before he starts puberty he will be fine. If he doesn't & he catches it he will become sterile (during puberty).

As you can imagine I am getting worried about the lenght of time that it is taking to get it.

I think this government is disgusting, taking our right away to single vaccinations

Personally, I don't care how much they safe the MMR is safe I am still not going to do it.

Cheers

Sally

bubbleymummy · 24/09/2010 21:03

Sally, did the doctor seriously say that your son WOULD become sterile if he caught it after puberty? That is disgraceful if he did! :( There is NO firm evidence that mumps causes sterility.

In a few cases, mumps after puberty may cause orchitis ( swelling of the testicles). This may occur in one or both testicles but even this in itself will not necessarily cause sterility. i seriously recommend that you read up about mumps to reassure yourself and then pass the information on to your doctor!

bubbleymummy · 24/09/2010 21:06

Sorry, that was a bit rambled but I'm really shocked that you were told that. If you look it up you will see that infertility is listed as a very rare complication on most websites- hpa, nhs etc and a few do say that there is no fitm evidence of this... I can't believe you were told that. Scare tactics at their worst :(

governmentandreform · 24/09/2010 21:11

If your ds did get mumps in puberty - it would probably be from a child who HAD been vaccinated but the effectiveness had not taken or had worn off - then you would just nurse him through it. If you made sure he was well nourished and rested, he would be very very unlikely to get orchitis, and even if he did, any resultant loss of fertility would be extremely unusual.

mackerelisgoodforyou · 30/09/2010 13:00

Have been reading the thread with interest. My eldest daughter is now 9 and a half years(we waited as long as possible as recommended by the Dr who gave her the measles and rubella vaccinations). Big problem now as not only can I not get the mumps vaccine but she seems to be already developing (no periods) but other signs! Can she even have the mumps vaccine now if I do find one?
The only way my GP will do it (removing from the equation the developing part), is to have MMR now for mumps component and another MMR again after only 4 weeks, to be covered against mumps!! This in unacceptable. The government should be ashamed of the unsafe situation they have now put my child in by 'asking' Merck to 'concentrate' on the triple vaccine only. I am appalled! ShockHmmAngrySad

Appletrees · 30/09/2010 16:47

mumps helps to protect girls from ovarian cancer

OR

girls who have had mumps are less likely to develop ovarian cancer and its a complete coincidence

take your pick

Mackerel, I would not be worried about my daughter having the mumps.

MariaBN6 · 30/09/2010 20:28

1 in 10 leads to the patient getting viral meningitis

danifox6, where did you hear that? couldy you provide a link?

chatstra · 12/10/2010 18:57

I too have the dilemma. I live in Switzerland and have taken my son back to London for measles and rubella boosters and only learned today about the mumps situation. My son is 10 years old now. It would seem that mmr is the only option. Whilst mumps is rare I worry about him heading towards puberty at risk of mumps. Whilst sterility is a rare side effect, autism and/or Chrone's are unproven side effects of mmr. Does anyone know whether any parents have noticed changes in their children after booster mmr or has it only been after initial vaccination. Also, did Andrew Wakefield study older children receiving mmr? All advice/comments gratefully received!

DBennett · 12/10/2010 19:12

Andrew Wakefield's work doesn't speak to this issue in any way.

Even if he hasn't falsified data which invalidates his findings, his work speaks to gastro-intestinal symtpoms in children with ASD.

Even if it could be trusted it can't give us any information about whether MMR is linked to ASD.

It's worth repeating that concensus of evidence indicates that there is no evidence that MMR (or indeed any vaccination) increases the risk of a child having ASD.

CoteDAzur · 18/10/2010 13:27

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CoteDAzur · 18/10/2010 13:30

Wrong thread, sorry. I reported it to be deleted from here.

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